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GRPL THREAD: Verses of Grace

Posted on 12/15/2003 3:59:36 PM PST by drstevej

GRPL THREAD: "Verses of Grace"

The thread is established to compile an biblical texts which proclaim a sovereign God whose grace is un-leveraged.

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Romans 8 :29-30

For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren. Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified.
 

1 posted on 12/15/2003 3:59:36 PM PST by drstevej
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2 posted on 12/15/2003 4:01:05 PM PST by drstevej (Exurge, Calvinisti, et judica causam tuam)
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To: drstevej
Is that the right translation?
3 posted on 12/15/2003 4:32:25 PM PST by Wrigley
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To: Wrigley
It's the KJV not the JST
4 posted on 12/15/2003 4:43:03 PM PST by drstevej (Exurge, Calvinisti, et judica causam tuam)
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To: drstevej
How about John 6:35-68 [NAS95]

35 Jesus said to them, “I am the bread of life; he who comes to Me will not hunger, and he who believes in Me will never thirst.

36 “But I said to you that you have seen Me, and yet do not believe.

37 “All that the Father gives Me will come to Me, and the one who comes to Me I will certainly not cast out.

38 “For I have come down from heaven, not to do My own will, but the will of Him who sent Me.

39 “This is the will of Him who sent Me, that of all that He has given Me I lose nothing, but raise it up on the last day.

40 “For this is the will of My Father, that everyone who beholds the Son and believes in Him will have eternal life, and I Myself will raise him up on the last day.”

 

41 Therefore the Jews were grumbling about Him, because He said, “I am the bread that came down out of heaven.”

42 They were saying, “Is not this Jesus, the son of Joseph, whose father and mother we know? How does He now say, ‘I have come down out of heaven’?”

43 Jesus answered and said to them, “Do not grumble among yourselves.

44 “No one can come to Me unless the Father who sent Me draws him; and I will raise him up on the last day.

45 “It is written in the prophets, ‘And they shall all be taught of God.’ Everyone who has heard and learned from the Father, comes to Me.

46 “Not that anyone has seen the Father, except the One who is from God; He has seen the Father.

47 “Truly, truly, I say to you, he who believes has eternal life.

48 “I am the bread of life.

49 “Your fathers ate the manna in the wilderness, and they died.

50 “This is the bread which comes down out of heaven, so that one may eat of it and not die.

51 “I am the living bread that came down out of heaven; if anyone eats of this bread, he will live forever; and the bread also which I will give for the life of the world is My flesh.”

52 Then the Jews began to argue with one another, saying, “How can this man give us His flesh to eat?”

53 So Jesus said to them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink His blood, you have no life in yourselves.

54 “He who eats My flesh and drinks My blood has eternal life, and I will raise him up on the last day.

55 “For My flesh is true food, and My blood is true drink.

56 “He who eats My flesh and drinks My blood abides in Me, and I in him.

57 “As the living Father sent Me, and I live because of the Father, so he who eats Me, he also will live because of Me.

58 “This is the bread which came down out of heaven; not as the fathers ate and died; he who eats this bread will live forever.”

 

59 These things He said in the synagogue as He taught in Capernaum.

60 Therefore many of His disciples, when they heard this said, “This is a difficult statement; who can listen to it?”

61 But Jesus, conscious that His disciples grumbled at this, said to them, “Does this cause you to stumble?

62 “What then if you see the Son of Man ascending to where He was before?

63 “It is the Spirit who gives life; the flesh profits nothing; the words that I have spoken to you are spirit and are life.

64 “But there are some of you who do not believe.” For Jesus knew from the beginning who they were who did not believe, and who it was that would betray Him.

65 And He was saying, “For this reason I have said to you, that no one can come to Me unless it has been granted him from the Father.”

 

66 As a result of this many of His disciples withdrew and were not walking with Him anymore.

67 So Jesus said to the twelve, “You do not want to go away also, do you?”

68 Simon Peter answered Him, “Lord, to whom shall we go? You have words of eternal life.


5 posted on 12/15/2003 4:53:18 PM PST by RochesterFan
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To: drstevej
 
 
Eph 1:3  
Blessed [be] the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly [places] in Christ:

  
 
Eph 1:4  
According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:

  
 
Eph 1:5  
Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will,

 
Eph 1:6  
To the praise of the glory of his grace, wherein he hath made us accepted in the beloved.
6 posted on 12/15/2003 4:53:51 PM PST by RnMomof7 (Deut7:7)
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To: RochesterFan
John 6

My favorite Predestination chapter

We need notice that just as today people waled away.

"ye shall be as gods'

Little changes
7 posted on 12/15/2003 4:55:21 PM PST by RnMomof7 (Deut7:7)
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To: RochesterFan
A synergist cannot interpret John 6 without either doing violence to the text, ignoring the clear meaning, or becoming a monergist...
8 posted on 12/15/2003 4:55:28 PM PST by RochesterFan
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To: drstevej
Then there is this favorite:
When the Gentiles heard this, they began rejoicing and glorifying the word of the Lord; and as many as had been appointed to eternal life believed. [Acts 13:48 NAS95]

9 posted on 12/15/2003 5:01:20 PM PST by RochesterFan
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To: RochesterFan
Another to go with that

Act 16:14 And a certain woman named Lydia, a seller of purple, of the city of Thyatira, which worshipped God, heard [us]: whose heart the Lord opened, that she attended unto the things which were spoken of Paul.

10 posted on 12/15/2003 5:03:15 PM PST by RnMomof7 (Deut7:7)
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To: drstevej


NAsbU Titus 3:5 He saved us, not on the basis of deeds which we have done in righteousness, but according to His mercy, by the washing of regeneration and renewing by the Holy Spirit, 6 whom He poured out upon us richly through Jesus Christ our Savior

a bondslave to the Christ

chuck

11 posted on 12/15/2003 5:08:39 PM PST by Uri’el-2012 (chuck <truth@YeshuaHaMashiach>)
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To: drstevej
1 Timothy 1:15 — The saying is trustworthy and deserving of full acceptance, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners, of whom I am the foremost.
NB — "to save sinners"; NOT "to provide salvation for sinners," NOR "to make salvation available to sinners," NOR, STILL LESS, "to enable sinners to save themselves"...

...but "to save sinners."

Dan

12 posted on 12/15/2003 5:08:49 PM PST by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: drstevej
Gen. 1:1 to Rev. 22:21 inclusive. Sorry, I had to do it :>)
13 posted on 12/15/2003 5:16:01 PM PST by irishtenor (If animals weren't meant to be eaten, why did God make them out of meat?)
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To: BibChr
1 Timothy 1:15 — The saying is trustworthy and deserving of full acceptance, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners, of whom I am the foremost.
NB — "to save sinners"; NOT "to provide salvation for sinners," NOR "to make salvation available to sinners," NOR, STILL LESS, "to enable sinners to save themselves"...

...but "to save sinners."

EXCELLENT !!!
14 posted on 12/15/2003 5:19:17 PM PST by RnMomof7 (Deut7:7)
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To: drstevej
My favorite passage regarding how I should look at Arminians is Psalm 92:6: The stupid man cannot know; the fool cannot understand this.




Oh, wait, you wanted Grace vereces, Hmmm, OK! Here:

John 6:37-40, "All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out. For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of him that sent me. And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day. And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day."
15 posted on 12/15/2003 6:38:03 PM PST by Gamecock (Galatians 1:15)
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RnMomof7; BibChr; drstevej
1 Timothy 1:15 ? The saying is trustworthy and deserving of full acceptance, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners, of whom I am the foremost.
NB ? "to save sinners"; NOT "to provide salvation for sinners," NOR "to make salvation available to sinners," NOR, STILL LESS, "to enable sinners to save themselves"...

...but "to save sinners."

EXCELLENT !!!

14 posted on 12/15/2003 6:19:17 PM MST by RnMomof7 (Deut7:7)

This doesn't seem to be five points; but only four.


16 posted on 12/15/2003 6:59:26 PM PST by Uri’el-2012 (chuck <truth@YeshuaHaMashiach>)
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To: XeniaSt
How?

BTW I have a friend that is a 4 pointer:>)
17 posted on 12/15/2003 7:34:55 PM PST by RnMomof7 (Deut7:7)
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To: RnMomof7
1 Timothy 1:15 — The saying is trustworthy and deserving of full acceptance, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners, of whom I am the foremost.

Don't you just LOVE purpose infinitives?

18 posted on 12/15/2003 7:42:41 PM PST by Calvinist_Dark_Lord (I have come here to kick @$$ and chew bubblegum...and I'm all outta bubblegum! ~Roddy Piper)
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To: RnMomof7; XeniaSt
BTW I have a friend that is a 4 pointer:>)

Well, there goes the neighborhood!

19 posted on 12/15/2003 7:45:05 PM PST by Calvinist_Dark_Lord (I have come here to kick @$$ and chew bubblegum...and I'm all outta bubblegum! ~Roddy Piper)
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To: Calvinist_Dark_Lord
Ahem!
20 posted on 12/15/2003 7:47:21 PM PST by drstevej (Exurge, Calvinisti, et judica causam tuam)
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