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An interesting read from our Messianic friends:
1 posted on 11/14/2003 1:07:10 PM PST by Gamecock
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To: P-Marlowe
Wanna play?
2 posted on 11/14/2003 1:07:55 PM PST by Gamecock (B-B-Q pigs: God's gift to the South)
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To: Gamecock; xzins; Alamo-Girl
The church wasn't born at Pentecost. It was Bar Mitzvah'd.

Well,.....so,.... the Devil began his messianic synagogue-church in Eden?

And,......had it Bar Mitzvah'd at Pentecost?

yep,......a liar from the beginning be he,.........and his congregations are liars too!

(Romans 10:17)

Worship God!

3 posted on 11/14/2003 1:37:21 PM PST by maestro
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To: Gamecock

 

This article can be found on this forum page (Warning, long loading time--may crash):

http://www.christianforums.com/t46671&page=3

It was posted by someone screen-named "Woody." In that post, it appears as if the first part of the article was written by Schlissel, and that the last two paragraphs or so, were contributed by "Woody." Is this maybe "CC Woody?"

 

DG

4 posted on 11/14/2003 1:49:23 PM PST by DoorGunner ( Fool, Liar, Sinner, etc.(Non Hæretico Comburendo))
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To: Gamecock
B-b-b-BWWWAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAHAA!!
WHOOOAA-HAHAHA!!
Oh, OH, OH, WAHAHAHAHAHAA!!
Wow! You gotta warn me about these! The apostles didn't found a church, but a "dispensation!" Oh, too funny, too funny.
Talk about non-biblical!

No seriously... this is a good lesson in how to cause cascading presumptions. Adam and Eve were not part of any Church in any pre-Calvin sense of the word. This "confession" is creating a new definition of a word. The truth, principles and intents on which The Church was founded have existed since Adam and Eve, and the Word had always existed, so there's an appeal to sayin Adam and Eve were within a Church. But while ancients were like a Church in some ways, they weren't in the most basic meanings meanings of what "Church means."

So why assert something which is untrue on its face, and is plainly non-scriptural? Because once you redefine basic terminology, you can use it to assert meanings and interpretations which would otherwise seem false in their face.

So, no, we don't have to assemble to be an assembly; we don't have to be recognizable from the outside to be visible; we don't have uphold common beliefs to be united; we don't have to be follow a succession to be apostolic. No, all these words are code-words for some deeper meaning.

Or you could simply believe them to be true.
5 posted on 11/14/2003 1:49:26 PM PST by dangus
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To: Gamecock
read later
26 posted on 11/14/2003 3:06:54 PM PST by LiteKeeper
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To: Gamecock
As Brook Shields once said, "nothing comes between me and my calvinism". LOL....ok wrong commercial.
43 posted on 11/14/2003 7:19:25 PM PST by anncoulteriscool
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To: Gamecock; Wrigley; CARepubGal
"An interesting read from our Messianic friends:"

While Schlissel is indeed a former Jew, it is a bit misleading to identify him as "Messianic". That might lead some to believe he is a praciticing "Messianic Jew".

Schlissel is actually now a Belgic Confession waving, Heidelberg Catechism preaching, Canons of Dordt confessing (AKA: "Three Forms of Unity" subscribing) pastor from the Dutch Reformed tradition!

Jean

47 posted on 11/14/2003 9:52:20 PM PST by Jean Chauvin (Sola Scriptura---Sola Fida---Sola Gracia---Sola Christus---Soli Deo Gloria)
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To: oldcodger; LiteKeeper; scandalon; nobdysfool; OrthodoxPresbyterian; Jerry_M; the_doc; CCWoody; ...
Late Bump guys
56 posted on 11/14/2003 10:42:07 PM PST by RnMomof7
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To: Gamecock
The Church was indeed formed from the foundation of the World....The Southern Baptists have been teaching what our Messianic Jewish friends are saying from practically the times that the Southern Baptists have been a denomination...as well as CMA churches, and Pentecostalists and many others! What did Christ say..."Before Abraham was...I AM!"?
73 posted on 11/15/2003 7:02:31 AM PST by mdmathis6
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To: Gamecock
bump
97 posted on 11/15/2003 10:08:54 AM PST by rwfromkansas ("Men stumble over the truth, but most pick themselves up as if nothing had happened." Churchill)
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