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To: FormerLib
...so to justify the existence of their denomination, they trump up differences on doctrinal fine points.

And it is statements such as this that ensure there will never be a reunification.

There won't be, but not because of statements such as mine, nor of statements by your own controversialists who manufacture differences on doctrinal fine points. The reason there will be no reunification is that your denomination has sold its soul. In contravention of 1900 years of Church tradition, you have caved on contraception. Likewise, you have caved on the divorce-and-remarriage question. Are Orthodox now willing to surrender their newly found sexual "liberation" to the unpopular pronouncements of a tradition-bound old Pope? I don't think so. No, no. Having abandoned the straight and narrow for the wide and easy, there is no turning back for you. As individuals, maybe yes; but as a denomination, no.

56 posted on 10/31/2003 4:31:19 PM PST by findingtruth
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To: findingtruth
The reason there will be no reunification is that your denomination has sold its soul. In contravention of 1900 years of Church tradition, you have caved on contraception. Likewise, you have caved on the divorce-and-remarriage question.

Wrong on both counts. Contraception is not something that Orthodox Christians are free to use whenever and however they like. Roman Catholics use a form on contraception known as the rythm method with the same desired effect. Also, if you'd actually done anything but the most superficial examination, you would have discovered that the Orthodox process for remarriage is virtually identical to the Roman Catholic annulment.

Yes, it would have been better if you would have attempted to learn about our faith before attacking, but the Pharisee in you won out.

57 posted on 10/31/2003 5:15:25 PM PST by FormerLib (The enemy is within!)
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To: OldCorps
You might be interested in hearing how the Orthodox Christian faith is judged by some.

Here's how the tragically misnamed findingtruth put it:

There won't be, but not because of statements such as mine, nor of statements by your own controversialists who manufacture differences on doctrinal fine points. The reason there will be no reunification is that your denomination has sold its soul. In contravention of 1900 years of Church tradition, you have caved on contraception. Likewise, you have caved on the divorce-and-remarriage question. Are Orthodox now willing to surrender their newly found sexual "liberation" to the unpopular pronouncements of a tradition-bound old Pope? I don't think so. No, no. Having abandoned the straight and narrow for the wide and easy, there is no turning back for you. As individuals, maybe yes; but as a denomination, no.

58 posted on 10/31/2003 5:27:16 PM PST by FormerLib (The enemy is within!)
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To: findingtruth
As individuals, maybe yes; but as a denomination, no.

By the way, doesn't the Roman Catholic church claim that our sacraments, such as the Eucharist, are valid? How could that be true in light of your diatribe?

59 posted on 10/31/2003 5:28:48 PM PST by FormerLib (The enemy is within!)
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To: findingtruth; FormerLib
As individuals, maybe yes; but as a denomination, no.

The Catholic Church of Rome does not consider the Catholic Churches of Greece, Russia, etc. styled "Orthodox" as a "denomination", but as a part of the One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church that is not in communion with Rome. A denomination is an "ecclesial comunity". The Orthodox, OTOH, are a "Church".

75 posted on 11/01/2003 8:31:57 AM PST by Hermann the Cherusker
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