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To: Sentis
So since I should not presume what legislation you would support you should bnot assume what sort of person I am.

The river runs both ways. Stop trying to tell me what I believe, and what I and "people of my stripe" want. You're playing to the crowd, hoping that the unaware will believe your lies.

Does anyone believe that is people of your stripe were to come into power there would not be legislation of all sorts based on biblical edicts. How many Blue laws would return to the books. How many laws proscribing certain behaviors. Your an intolerant group with intolerant goals.

Oh, so now I'm a group? The Blue Laws were not all that great. One thing is for sure, morality cannot be legislated. But, there have to be limits placed on behaviors that are demonstrably not beneficial to the public as a whole, nor to individuals in particular. Since those involved seem unwilling and unable to curb their own appetites and lusts, laws to restrict and criminalize such behavior are necessary, for the public good. Certain things, certain actions just cannot be allowed in a civilized society. Murder, Rape, Theft, all fall into that catagory. I don't really think you would argue agaisnt that point, unless you're really, really stupid. Proscribing certain behaviors that are detrimental to the public good, to peace and safety, and to common decency should be done.

Of course, your Libertarian ideas of "live and let live" sound good in theory, but inevitably fail in actual practice. Why? Basic human nature. A nature which God Almighty says is depraved, and wholly fallen, unable to think or to act in any truly good manner. Hence, laws.

John Adams said this: "Our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the governance of any other." The man was absolutely right, and people like you just highlight how right he was.

I believe in "live and let live" thats why I am against you. I believe in a true reduction of laws not replacing what we have with a theocratic society.

You definition of a theocratic society differs quite a lot from the dictionary definition. "Live and let live" can work on a case by case basis, at a local level, to a limited degree, but to make it the law of the land would result in anarchy. You can be against me all you want. I don't answer to you. I answer to Jesus Christ, the Son of the Living God, and it is Him whom I serve first. I am happy to be a citizen of the United States, but this country will pass away, as have all others, and only the Kingdom of God shall stand forever.

459 posted on 10/20/2003 3:38:37 PM PDT by nobdysfool (Arminianism is pre-school for Calvinists, but only the Elect graduate....)
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To: nobdysfool; Sentis; OrthodoxPresbyterian
Of course, your Libertarian ideas of "live and let live" sound good in theory, but inevitably fail in actual practice. Why? Basic human nature. A nature which God Almighty says is depraved, and wholly fallen, unable to think or to act in any truly good manner. Hence, laws.

Nobdysfool, i suspect that you need to put some fences around that statement. Both OP and i are card carrying, dues paying, Libertarians. Neither of us are calling for a society with out laws. i believe that you might have been looking for the word Anarchist which is IMO, self refuting nonsense. A Libertarian would pass laws that prevent and /or punish the illegitimate use of force. In such a system, Government is recognised as the only legitimate instrument of force (aside from legitimate self defense), which is why Libertarians wish it to be severely limited.

464 posted on 10/21/2003 2:54:41 PM PDT by Calvinist_Dark_Lord (I have come here to kick @$$ and chew bubblegum...and I'm all outta bubblegum! ~Roddy Piper)
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