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Why on earth did female voters help elect Arnold?
St. Petersburg Times ^ | October 12, 2003 | MARY JO MELONE

Posted on 10/12/2003 3:24:41 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

What a world. Voters have elected a serial groper to be governor of California.

And women helped put him there.

According to exit polls, 44 percent of Arnold Schwarzenegger's voters were women.

Whatever were they thinking?

That the devil made him do it? That all men are dogs and can't help themselves?

Or that the women who pointed the finger at Schwarzenegger were lying or acting as pawns of the Democrats?

It wasn't just a few women. It began with two women putting their names out there in public and ended up, in less than a week, with about a dozen charging that, between 1975 and 2000, Schwarzenegger grabbed, groped and humiliated them.

I talked to three of the women last week.

Jan Prinzmetal, a fitness expert, said Schwarzenegger grabbed her under her skirt and shoved his hand inside her pantyhose as she was leaving a gym.

Joy Browne, a psychologist and syndicated radio talk show host, remembered him running his hands along her legs while she conducted an hourlong, live interview with him early in her career. He later tried to lure her to his hotel room, she said.

Colette Brooks, who runs an advertising agency, has never forgotten the moment when, as a young CNN intern, she led Schwarzenegger up a stairwell to a network interview. Going up the steps behind her, he remarked, "Nice a--," and grabbed her backside.

The women all said these incidents happened in the 1980s.

Now it looks as though the women came forward for nothing.

Not even the Los Angeles Times, the supposedly liberal paper that published their allegations, took note in its postelection, get-down-to-business editorial that Schwarzenegger takes office with these clouds still over his head. It was as though the breadth of his victory nullified the claims of his accusers.

"I just wanted voters to know for whom they've voted, but sadly, I don't think they care," Prinzmetal said.

Women, too?

"If he looked like Yasser Arafat, no one would have voted for him," Prinzmetal said.

So what? Schwarzenegger did well among women because he's a hottie?

That's no goofier than seeing him as a miracle man, a radical agent of change in a state desperate for it.

"Many people confuse the power of his celebrity on the big screen . . . with what he could potentially do in real life," Brooks said.

Of course. Whatever he doesn't like in state government, Schwarzenegger will just blow up.

Surely women were as prone as men to believe that those who stepped forward to speak up about Schwarzenegger's conduct were put up to it by the Democrats. Surely that contributed to the vote results last week. But the women I talked to said they came forward on their own, angered by Schwarzenegger's denials.

As the campaign ended, we heard Schwarzenegger compared to the illustrious and sexually industrious Bill Clinton. You know what followed. If Clinton could be forgiven, why not Schwarzenegger?

There was a difference, if not in their conduct than in their choices. Clinton's women wanted him. The women I talked to about Schwarzenegger did not. But that didn't stop him. This was harassment.

This was abuse, and it wasn't just about sex, Browne said: "He was trying to show me who was boss."

I will wonder for a long time why more women didn't believe Schwarzenegger's accusers and side with them. Maybe, when you are desperate for work - and in California, people are desperate for work - you tolerate the boss' bad manners because at least you have a job.

Schwarzenegger is a lucky man. The campaign was short. There was hardly time for the allegations against him to sink in. Women did what women so often do with their men.

They forgave him.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: arnold; california; dirtytricks; media; politics; recall; recallanalysis; schwarzenegger; womensvote
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Somehow, I suspect there was a statistically significant number of women who groped Arnold without his consent in his day. Call me crazy.

Qwinn
21 posted on 10/12/2003 3:48:20 AM PDT by Qwinn
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To: MinuteGal
And is suspect, she's one of Rush's undeniable truths....the one about feminists.
22 posted on 10/12/2003 3:49:18 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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Ms Malone

This woman needs to get some backbone and pull her head out of Democrat party politics long enough to see reality.

23 posted on 10/12/2003 3:52:48 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Does she look like a horse? hmm... Rush says feminism was invented to allow unattractive women to enter the mainstream.
24 posted on 10/12/2003 3:52:50 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop
We all need to speak for Rush now.

Bump!

25 posted on 10/12/2003 3:53:35 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
I don't think she can see anything except a buffed Clinton. But that would make Hillary jealous! LOL
26 posted on 10/12/2003 3:53:45 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop
Can you just imagine the "news" we get when Queen Hillary feels it's safe to run for president?
27 posted on 10/12/2003 3:56:38 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
I can imagine...
28 posted on 10/12/2003 3:57:26 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: Qwinn
No doubt.
29 posted on 10/12/2003 3:58:22 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
...Clinton's women wanted him.. - Mary Jo Melone you're one sick screwed up fool!
30 posted on 10/12/2003 3:59:55 AM PDT by Free_at_last_-2001 (is clinton in jail yet?)
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To: Free_at_last_-2001
Maybe reflecting her own desire.
31 posted on 10/12/2003 4:03:21 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Clinton's women wanted him.

This columnist, MARY JO MELONE, is delusional. Does she not remember the rapes in Arkansas and England -- presumably the reason why Clinton was kicked out of Oxford without receiving a degree -- until they gave him an honorary one while president. Put some ice on that author.

CLINTON AND THE LADIES
http://www.varmintal.com/ladies.htm

Clinton Misogynism - Sex
Juanita Broaddrick (AR)- rape
Eileen Wellstone (Oxford) - rape
Elizabeth Ward Gracen - rape - post incident intimidation
Kathleen Willey (WH) - sexual assault, intimidations, threats
Sandra Allen James (DC) - sexual assault
22 Year Old 1972 (Yale) - sexual assault
Cristy Zercher - unwelcomed sexual advance, intimidations
Paula Jones (AR) - unwelcomed sexual advance, exposure, bordering on sexual assault
Carolyn Moffet -unwelcomed sexual advance, exposure, bordering on sexual assault
1974 student at University of Arkansas - unwelcomed physical contact
1978-1980 - seven complaints per Arkansas state troopers
Monica Lewinsky - post incident character assault
Gennifer Flowers - post incident character assault
Dolly Kyle Browning - post incident character assault
Sally Perdue - post incident threats
Betty Dalton - rebuffed his advances, married to one of his supporters
Denise Reeder - apologetic note scanned

Clinton Misogynism - Other
Linda Tripp - coerce, intimidate, deny - Bob Bennett calls her a liar, releases her job application, transfers her
Julia Hiatt-Steele - Willey's friend and neighbor - used the machine to change her story
Hillary Rodham Clinton - used as a cover humiliated
Chelsea Clinton - ignored
Betty Currie - used as cover and enabler
Donna Shalala - used as cover, used as whipping post in Cabinet meeting
Madeline Albright - used as cover

Clinton as a Ladies' Man?
Marsha Scott - claimed an affair
Connie Hamzy - claimed sex
Bobbie Ann Williams - claimed paid sex, paternity

Following are names of ladies rumored to have had sexual relations with Bill Clinton. We of course do not have information to support these rumors and do not intend the reader to think that we believe any of them to be true. Some could be true, some could be false and some could be intentionally spread rumors so absurd as to make the ones listed above and all other rumors look absurd as well. As always, please draw your own conclusions:

Clinton as a Ladies' Man - Rumors
Marilyn Jo Jenkins - rumored
Susan Coleman - rumored (suicide 7.5 months pregnant)
Robyn Dickey -rumored – rumored, staffer
Lenora Steinkamp - rumored - mystery jogger on video tape entering the "infamous hallway" with Clinton
Kimba Wood - rumored, judge
Kelley Craighead - rumored, staffer to Bill and Hillary
Sharline Wilson - rumored, claimed drug association
Dee Dee Myers - rumored, staffer
Suzie Whitacre - rumored
Catherine Cornelius - rumored, "distant cousin"
Cheryl Mills - rumored, WH attorney

Clinton as a Ladies' Man - Rumors with quid pro quo?
Beth Gladden Coulson - rumored - young judicial appointment
Eleanor Mondale - rumored - celebrity daughter, dated Ron Perelman (see Jordan)
Shelia Lawrence - rumored - Widow of Ambassador
Deborah Mathis - rumored - reporter/WH advancements
Debra Schiff - rumored - ex flight attendant, now staffer
Susan McDougal - rumored - business connections
Benazir Bhutto – rumored - current opposition leader in, and former prime minister of Pakistan

Clinton as a wanna be Ladies' Man or intended
disinformation? - Rumors High Profile
Barbara Steisand - rumored - celebrity
Markie Post - rumored - actress
Sharon Stone - rumored - actress
Lencola Sullivan - rumored - beauty queen
Regina Hopper Blakely - rumored - beauty queen
Martha Stewart - rumored - celebrity
Diana Wiley Pietsch – rumored - sex therapist - Oxford
Princess Di - rumored - royalty, deceased
Madonna - rumored - celebrity

Sorry. Comparability to Schwarzenegger NOT PROVED. Clinton is not on the moral high ground and his transgressions should not be excused or forgiven, especially his escapades in the Oval Office while prescuting the Bosnian Campaign and his several rapes. Just whom of the above women did this columnist interview?

32 posted on 10/12/2003 4:05:34 AM PDT by OESY
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To: OESY
bttt
33 posted on 10/12/2003 4:19:09 AM PDT by lainde
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To: Cincinatus' Wife; All
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/995807/posts
Actor's Female Fans Reject Groping Tales. Schwarzenegger Defended by Women
Washington Post ^ | Oct. 6, 2003 | Evelyn Nieves
My 2 cents?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/995807/posts?page=40#40
Let me tell you all something- believe the women who worked with him.
in a lifetime of doing everything from digging ditches to running small corporations, I have learned one thing-- you work with a man, you get get to know the real man.
If Arnold were anything at all like his accusers claim, the women he worked with would have known about it.
34 posted on 10/12/2003 4:22:37 AM PDT by backhoe (Just an old Keyboard Cowboy, ridin' the trackball into the Sunset...)
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To: OESY
Mary Jo's email:

mjmelone@sptimes.com


Give her a little FYI.
35 posted on 10/12/2003 4:24:07 AM PDT by Free Vulcan
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
According to exit polls, 44 percent of Arnold Schwarzenegger's voters were women. Whatever were they thinking?

Isn't it interesting that the party of "I am woman" is always so quick to insinuate that women lack gray matter?

36 posted on 10/12/2003 4:50:26 AM PDT by wayoverontheright
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To: backhoe
Bump!
37 posted on 10/12/2003 4:50:31 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: OESY
Gracious!
38 posted on 10/12/2003 4:51:16 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
There was a difference, if not in their conduct than in their choices. Clinton's women wanted him. The women I talked to about Schwarzenegger did not. But that didn't stop him. This was harassment.

Mary Jo Melone has a conviently defective memory. Juanita Broaddrick certainly didn't want to be raped, not once and certainly not twice. Kathlene Willey do not want Slick Willie to grope her, she needed a job. Paula Jones didn't want to see his crooked little pecker. The secret service agent he groped didn't want it either, in fact she got a transfer.

So Monica and a couple of others wanted Xlintoon, and he acted on it. Notice that not one woman, except Maria Shriver has ever wanted Arnold! Not one in thirty years! If there had been, we certainly would have been treated to the whole Jennifer-Flowers-style treatment, but we weren't. And liberals just can't deal with it!

39 posted on 10/12/2003 4:58:57 AM PDT by SubMareener
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Why on earth did female voters help elect Arnold?

Gee. I thought this article was going to have interviews with voters for Arnold, not the accusers.

You mean that the writer's not interested in why people voted for Arnold?
40 posted on 10/12/2003 5:13:00 AM PDT by Mike Fieschko
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