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Investigator Testifies at Bryant Hearing
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Posted on 10/09/2003 2:08:36 PM PDT by per loin

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Detective: Bryant's accuser protested during encounter

By Tim Dahlberg, Associated Press Writer
October 9, 2003

EAGLE - The woman who accused Kobe Bryant of rape told police a flirtatious encounter quickly turned ugly when he grabbed her by the neck, bent her over a chair and attacked her, repeatedly asking, "You're not going to tell anybody about this, right?"

The 19-year-old woman was raped after agreeing to go to Bryant's suite at the resort where she worked, Eagle County Sheriff's Detective Doug Winters testified Thursday at a preliminary hearing to determine whether Bryant will stand trial.

Winters described in graphic detail for a packed courtroom how, according to the woman, an exciting, chance meeting with the Los Angeles Lakers' superstar led to a nightmarish assault that left her shaken and in tears.

She said she told Bryant "no" at least twice and he ignored her, pulling her dress up and her underwear down and raping her from behind.

At one point, the woman told police, Bryant forced her to face him and say "no" when he asked if she was going to tell anyone. After the attack, Bryant made her kiss his penis, Winters said the woman told investigators.

Bryant, 25, has insisted the sex was consensual. He sat at the defense table staring straight at Winters for much of the hearing, hands folded in front of him. Bryant occasionally clenched his jaw, but showed little other reaction.

Though the testimony was graphic, the most explosive statement came from Bryant's own defense attorney when she suggested under cross examination that the woman's injuries would also be "consistent with a person who has had sex with three different men in three days."

That led an angry Judge Frederick Gannett to empty the courtroom and summon the lawyers to his chambers. Gannett was also upset earlier when defense attorney Pamela Mackey said the woman's name four times when asking questions.

She apologized, saying she would write herself a big note not to say it.

"Or I could get you a big muzzle," Gannett said.

The hearing - expected to last only an afternoon - was finally adjourned after more than six hours, an indication the trial could be long and laborious for both sides. Gannett said it would continue next Wednesday, and the district attorney's office said Bryant had to appear.

Winters, the only witness of the afternoon, recounted what the woman told him in an hourlong interview the day after she met Bryant at the resort. It all began with a tour of the hotel on June 30 that led to some flirting. She went back to Bryant's room and showed him a tattoo on her ankle, then turned down his request to join him in the hot tub, Winters said.

Her shift at the front desk was ending and she wanted to go home, he said, and "she was starting to feel a bit uncomfortable."

Winters said she stood up to leave and Bryant gave her a hug that led to some consensual kissing, Winters said.

But when she turned to go, Bryant grabbed her by the neck, pulled up her black dress and raped her against a chair, Winters said. She told investigators she said "no" at least twice, before bursting into tears as the five-minute attack went on.

Bryant wasn't holding her neck so tight she couldn't breathe, Winters said, but enough to control her movement.

"She was afraid that he was going to choke her," he said.

Afterward, Bryant told the woman to clean up, Winters said. She fixed her hair, wiped her face and left after again promising to remain silent.

She went back to the front desk to finish up her work and finally left the resort with an unidentified bellman, Winters said. She told him what happened and he urged her to report it, later following her home.

Winters testified that the woman's blood was found on the inside of Bryant's T-shirt, based on DNA tests. The woman told him she had bleeding from the attack, he said.

The prosecution also presented photographs showing vaginal injuries and one of a bruise on the woman's jaw, and a rape nurse's statement that her injuries were not consistent with consensual sex.

Mackey, though, suggested Winters had no idea when the bruise occurred, and got him to acknowledge that the woman needed no treatment for injuries when she was examined. She also questioned him on whether he saw marks on her neck when he interviewed her the next day.

"She talks on how Mr. Kobe Bryant grabbed her neck and choked her," Mackey told Winters. "You looked at her neck to see?"

Winters said he had, then Mackey asked him if he saw any injuries on her neck.

"Not from the front, no," he said.

"Not a red mark?" she asked.

"That's correct," he said.

"Not a scratch?"

"That's correct."

Winters said the woman seemed serious when he first interviewed her with her parents at their Eagle home.

"I sensed a crackle in her voice," he said. "She stated that he raped her."

Bryant faces up to life in prison if convicted of a felony charge of sexual assault.

Legal experts had expected the defense to waive the hearing and head straight to trial rather than allow prosecutors to lay out their case for the first time _ evidence that will be discussed in public for months.

Gannett had rejected defense requests to have the woman testify and to see her medical records.

The hearing began as hundreds of reporters and a handful of spectators gathered outside the courthouse to catch a glimpse of Bryant as he arrived with his lawyers in a caravan of three SUVs. He said nothing to the crowd.

Bryant had to take off a necklace and was checked with metal detectors before walking into the courtroom.

Bryant, free on $25,000 bond, had been ordered to appear in court for a bond hearing even if the preliminary hearing was waived. He left the Hawaii training camp of the Los Angeles Lakers on Wednesday.

Bryant has the right to go to trial within six months of entering a plea, but he could agree to push that back until later, perhaps after the NBA season ends early next summer.

Copyright 2003, Rocky Mountain News. All Rights Reserved.


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To: Torie
Blood on the shirt is the smoking gun? Comments? I am way out of league here. As a true confession, I normally don't wear a shirt in even remotely, very remotely, similar circumstances.

These facts do not fit an episode of consensual sex.

To my mind the evidence against Bryant is well beyond reasonable doubt.

601 posted on 10/09/2003 10:13:32 PM PDT by beckett
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To: beckett
...strangled by a stranger

Prove either.

I suppose you think kids today just love to get strangled when having sex with a stranger.

See internet.

...including her blood on his shirt

That could be something. But might not.

...they were wrong, and change their minds.

Not there, yet.
Do you think her mental state should be allowed as evidence?

602 posted on 10/09/2003 10:14:26 PM PDT by PRND21
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To: Howlin
The defense did cross-examine the Sheriff's detective today.
603 posted on 10/09/2003 10:16:31 PM PDT by Ready4Freddy (Veni Vidi Velcro)
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To: PRND21
See internet.

There is a guy on FR -- warrenzevonismymuse I think his name is -- who says his "hip" songwriter son tells him that girls today love to get the crap beat out of them when having sex. That is basically the argument you're making too. You're saying she let Bryant beat her up because she was so thrilled to get porked by a superstar.

What a crock. Don't believe everything you see on the internet.

Do you think her mental state should be allowed as evidence?

Possibly, if it can be credibly shown that she concocted the story out of whole cloth due to a prior mental defect. If it can't be shown, in a way that a reasonable person could believe it, that her accusation of rape had its roots in a prior mental defect, testimony about her mental state should not be admitted.

604 posted on 10/09/2003 10:42:22 PM PDT by beckett
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To: katiebelle
Perhaps she took advantage of him. Once he came on to her maybe she went along with it just to see if she could scream rape later and get some major $$$$! If she stayed longer then it wouldn't have appeared to be the crisis she is now claiming.

When you intend to blackmail someone, the first step is not normally to go to the police and tell them everything; the first step is usually to go to the person you want to blackmail and hold them up for money in order to ensure your silence. In other words, your scenario doesn't make much sense.

605 posted on 10/09/2003 10:55:00 PM PDT by Brandon
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To: beckett
You're saying she let Bryant beat her up because she was so thrilled to get porked by a superstar.

No, you just said that. Why?

Possibly (allow mental state), if it can be credibly shown that she concocted the story out of whole cloth due to a prior mental defect.

That sentence is senseless.
Prove she pretended to be raped because she tried to commit suicide twice without mentioning she tried to commit suicide twice?

606 posted on 10/09/2003 11:04:53 PM PDT by PRND21
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To: PRND21
That sentence is senseless. Prove she pretended to be raped because she tried to commit suicide twice without mentioning she tried to commit suicide twice?

You asked if testimony about her prior mental state should be admitted. The Judge decides if it should be admitted. You realize that, right? So -- the JUDGE hears the defense's argument about whether her mental state (i.e., the two suicides attempts, depression over her friend's death, etc.) is relevent to the case at hand. If he thinks she may be concocting her story against Bryant due to some mental defect that is rooted in the suicide attempts and depression, he can allow testimony to be admitted on those subjects. If he thinks there is no connection, no relevance, he should disallow such testimony.

607 posted on 10/09/2003 11:14:42 PM PDT by beckett
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To: Howlin
No one has to prove Mackey fabricated the story about the three men. Mackey has to prove that the story is true. You cannot simply walk into court and assert something as a fact; you have to present evidence that it is a fact.
609 posted on 10/09/2003 11:46:19 PM PDT by Brandon
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To: Brandon
Oh, I agree; I just wondered why people were saying she fabricated it; from everything I've read about her, she doesn't seem like the type to throw her respected position in the legal community out the window for a basketball player.

And I said earlier, she best have the evidence to show the court, or she will be sanctioned and maybe disbarred on Wednesday morning.
610 posted on 10/09/2003 11:52:14 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Brandon
the first step is usually to go to the person you want to blackmail and hold them up for money in order to ensure your silence.

Unless she realizes that if she goes to him first she might be prosecuted for blackmail.

611 posted on 10/09/2003 11:53:48 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Ready4Freddy
The defense did cross-examine the Sheriff's detective today.

I don't think she's finished with him.

612 posted on 10/09/2003 11:54:19 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: beckett
If he thinks there is no connection, no relevance, he should disallow such testimony.

I agree. However, it is difficult for me to think it is not relevant to mental state. It would certainly be a reason to appeal. This may drag on for a long time. I hope the truth is found out.

613 posted on 10/09/2003 11:57:14 PM PDT by PRND21
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To: Howlin
In which case going to the police helps her .... how?
614 posted on 10/10/2003 12:12:52 AM PDT by Brandon
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To: Brandon
Just theorizing, she does it the honest way and he gives her big $$$ to make it all go away.

I was under the impression that that couldn't be done in cases like this, but I keep reading that it can be handled that way.
615 posted on 10/10/2003 12:14:53 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: per loin
You miss the point, had he been faithful to his wife and not comitted adultery with another woman, forced or other wise , he would not be in trouble.
616 posted on 10/10/2003 4:58:09 AM PDT by 2timothy3.16
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To: Peach
Peach, The point I was making was that if he had been faithful to his sife, he would not be in this mess.
617 posted on 10/10/2003 4:59:15 AM PDT by 2timothy3.16
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To: Peach
Peach, The point I was making was that if he had been faithful to his wife, he would not be in this mess.

No adultery, no charges against him. If nothing else, maybe this will wake up both men and women to the high cost of adultery.

618 posted on 10/10/2003 5:00:42 AM PDT by 2timothy3.16
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To: StarFan
Unless she was on her cycle, told Kobe this, and therefore anal sex was performed.
619 posted on 10/10/2003 5:57:49 AM PDT by GYPSY286
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To: tsmith130
You know this? Was it reported somewhere that she "cut him off" ?

No, conjecture on my part, base on his behavior up to the point of the rape.

620 posted on 10/10/2003 6:04:32 AM PDT by TADSLOS (Right Wing Infidel since 1954)
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