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Investigator Testifies at Bryant Hearing
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Posted on 10/09/2003 2:08:36 PM PDT by per loin

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Detective: Bryant's accuser protested during encounter

By Tim Dahlberg, Associated Press Writer
October 9, 2003

EAGLE - The woman who accused Kobe Bryant of rape told police a flirtatious encounter quickly turned ugly when he grabbed her by the neck, bent her over a chair and attacked her, repeatedly asking, "You're not going to tell anybody about this, right?"

The 19-year-old woman was raped after agreeing to go to Bryant's suite at the resort where she worked, Eagle County Sheriff's Detective Doug Winters testified Thursday at a preliminary hearing to determine whether Bryant will stand trial.

Winters described in graphic detail for a packed courtroom how, according to the woman, an exciting, chance meeting with the Los Angeles Lakers' superstar led to a nightmarish assault that left her shaken and in tears.

She said she told Bryant "no" at least twice and he ignored her, pulling her dress up and her underwear down and raping her from behind.

At one point, the woman told police, Bryant forced her to face him and say "no" when he asked if she was going to tell anyone. After the attack, Bryant made her kiss his penis, Winters said the woman told investigators.

Bryant, 25, has insisted the sex was consensual. He sat at the defense table staring straight at Winters for much of the hearing, hands folded in front of him. Bryant occasionally clenched his jaw, but showed little other reaction.

Though the testimony was graphic, the most explosive statement came from Bryant's own defense attorney when she suggested under cross examination that the woman's injuries would also be "consistent with a person who has had sex with three different men in three days."

That led an angry Judge Frederick Gannett to empty the courtroom and summon the lawyers to his chambers. Gannett was also upset earlier when defense attorney Pamela Mackey said the woman's name four times when asking questions.

She apologized, saying she would write herself a big note not to say it.

"Or I could get you a big muzzle," Gannett said.

The hearing - expected to last only an afternoon - was finally adjourned after more than six hours, an indication the trial could be long and laborious for both sides. Gannett said it would continue next Wednesday, and the district attorney's office said Bryant had to appear.

Winters, the only witness of the afternoon, recounted what the woman told him in an hourlong interview the day after she met Bryant at the resort. It all began with a tour of the hotel on June 30 that led to some flirting. She went back to Bryant's room and showed him a tattoo on her ankle, then turned down his request to join him in the hot tub, Winters said.

Her shift at the front desk was ending and she wanted to go home, he said, and "she was starting to feel a bit uncomfortable."

Winters said she stood up to leave and Bryant gave her a hug that led to some consensual kissing, Winters said.

But when she turned to go, Bryant grabbed her by the neck, pulled up her black dress and raped her against a chair, Winters said. She told investigators she said "no" at least twice, before bursting into tears as the five-minute attack went on.

Bryant wasn't holding her neck so tight she couldn't breathe, Winters said, but enough to control her movement.

"She was afraid that he was going to choke her," he said.

Afterward, Bryant told the woman to clean up, Winters said. She fixed her hair, wiped her face and left after again promising to remain silent.

She went back to the front desk to finish up her work and finally left the resort with an unidentified bellman, Winters said. She told him what happened and he urged her to report it, later following her home.

Winters testified that the woman's blood was found on the inside of Bryant's T-shirt, based on DNA tests. The woman told him she had bleeding from the attack, he said.

The prosecution also presented photographs showing vaginal injuries and one of a bruise on the woman's jaw, and a rape nurse's statement that her injuries were not consistent with consensual sex.

Mackey, though, suggested Winters had no idea when the bruise occurred, and got him to acknowledge that the woman needed no treatment for injuries when she was examined. She also questioned him on whether he saw marks on her neck when he interviewed her the next day.

"She talks on how Mr. Kobe Bryant grabbed her neck and choked her," Mackey told Winters. "You looked at her neck to see?"

Winters said he had, then Mackey asked him if he saw any injuries on her neck.

"Not from the front, no," he said.

"Not a red mark?" she asked.

"That's correct," he said.

"Not a scratch?"

"That's correct."

Winters said the woman seemed serious when he first interviewed her with her parents at their Eagle home.

"I sensed a crackle in her voice," he said. "She stated that he raped her."

Bryant faces up to life in prison if convicted of a felony charge of sexual assault.

Legal experts had expected the defense to waive the hearing and head straight to trial rather than allow prosecutors to lay out their case for the first time _ evidence that will be discussed in public for months.

Gannett had rejected defense requests to have the woman testify and to see her medical records.

The hearing began as hundreds of reporters and a handful of spectators gathered outside the courthouse to catch a glimpse of Bryant as he arrived with his lawyers in a caravan of three SUVs. He said nothing to the crowd.

Bryant had to take off a necklace and was checked with metal detectors before walking into the courtroom.

Bryant, free on $25,000 bond, had been ordered to appear in court for a bond hearing even if the preliminary hearing was waived. He left the Hawaii training camp of the Los Angeles Lakers on Wednesday.

Bryant has the right to go to trial within six months of entering a plea, but he could agree to push that back until later, perhaps after the NBA season ends early next summer.

Copyright 2003, Rocky Mountain News. All Rights Reserved.


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KEYWORDS: kobe; kobebryant; rape
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To: cyncooper
And let's not forget, this "evidence" has not been cross examined at all.
201 posted on 10/09/2003 5:04:33 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Howlin
What wasn't testified to in court? The bruise(s) on her face/neck? The photographs were introduced to the court today.
202 posted on 10/09/2003 5:04:47 PM PDT by Peach (The Clintons have pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: cyncooper
But, if he hit her, you'd think the detective would have mentioned she said that, wouldn't you?
203 posted on 10/09/2003 5:05:06 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: cyncooper
Correct. This is just the prelim. All they want out of this is enough evidence to get the judge to proceed.

No way the prosecutors give away all their evidence at this stage of the game. They have to give up info to the defense, but not their court strategy and the victim's own words.
204 posted on 10/09/2003 5:05:57 PM PDT by Peach (The Clintons have pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: Peach
Yes, it was. But I only heard that he had his hands around her neck, no other blows or --- I can't think of the word.

One thing that is worrisome to me is that in all these news articles, where you would see the words "began having sex with her," as in "Then he began having sex with her," the articles says "attacked her."
205 posted on 10/09/2003 5:07:12 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Howlin
I don't think he did hit her, or that would have likely been used today, as you said.

He tried to force oral sex on her. His hand were all over her and if she struggled, which it sounds like she did, bruises are to be expected.
206 posted on 10/09/2003 5:07:42 PM PDT by Peach (The Clintons have pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: Peach
Why introduce the bruise without saying how it got there? They explained the neck bruises like that.
207 posted on 10/09/2003 5:07:53 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Howlin
I said it and I think it's apt. The testimony is he grabbed her by the neck, bent her over a chair and raped her.To throttle is to compress the throat. If her story holds up and the bruising matches the size of Kobies hands, he's got big trouble, real big trouble no matter what route she took to his room.
208 posted on 10/09/2003 5:08:00 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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mark
209 posted on 10/09/2003 5:08:04 PM PDT by pinz-n-needlez
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To: jwalsh07
I agree to that.

Let's hear the "evidence" cross examined first though.
210 posted on 10/09/2003 5:08:41 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Howlin
Do the article say alleged attack? Because if she's to be believed, it was an attack. But they usually at this stage say alleged.
211 posted on 10/09/2003 5:08:49 PM PDT by Peach (The Clintons have pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: Howlin
Ah, your lack of an answer is answer enough.

So she was still on the clock, doing her job, took the service elevator as a hotel employee should, did her job, he started kissing and groping, she didn't fight at first but said no after he started sticking his hands in her panties, when she tried to leave, her grabbed her around the neck from behind with both hands and bent her over a chair and raped her, warning her not to tattle-tale. Then he made her put his fluid-soaked "euphamism" in her mouth. Then he let her go.

No condom mentioned either.

212 posted on 10/09/2003 5:09:37 PM PDT by Yeti
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To: Howlin
My guess is they didn't say how it got there is because they can measure the fingers/marks and know her hand didn't do it, but why give away everything you have at prelim? They don't need to give it all away to get what they want.
213 posted on 10/09/2003 5:10:06 PM PDT by Peach (The Clintons have pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: Peach
Look at these:

"The 19-year-old woman was raped after agreeing to go to Bryant's suite at the resort where she worked..."

"During and after the rape, Winters said..."


I don't see alleged anywhere; and it hasn't been decided by a jury to be a rape.
214 posted on 10/09/2003 5:11:56 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: jwalsh07
I agree. How she got there isn't really at issue. She admits to being there. She will likely testify she didn't want people to know.

Young girl going to a married black man's hotel room knowing she was going to flirt and kiss; I wouldn't want people to know either.

Sexuality between two adults starts with just what she was doing. But unless I'm really out of touch (which could be!!), young girls don't always jump into bed the first few hours of knowing someone. Sometimes, not always.
215 posted on 10/09/2003 5:12:02 PM PDT by Peach (The Clintons have pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: Peach
I think you misunderstood me. I wasn't implying you did. It was a poor effort at sarcasm.
216 posted on 10/09/2003 5:12:07 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: Howlin
That is interesting and bad reporting. Almost always they say alleged. (Am I spelling that right?)
217 posted on 10/09/2003 5:13:18 PM PDT by Peach (The Clintons have pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: jwalsh07
Second time tonight (on two thread) I've missed sarcasm. Sorry.

Excuse: Have had a fever for 7 days straight; brain is fried.
218 posted on 10/09/2003 5:13:56 PM PDT by Peach (The Clintons have pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: F.J. Mitchell; doc
Whatever she may have thought was going to happen in that room, it is pretty sure that she never dreamed that she was surrendering the right to say, no.

I agree with you. If she said no - even if going to his room in the first place for some form of sexual activity exhibited very poor judgment, at the very least - then Kobe should face the full penalty for his acts.

219 posted on 10/09/2003 5:15:39 PM PDT by mountaineer
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To: Yeti
Ah, your lack of an answer is answer enough.

In your post to me, you stated:

And I am interested that you said that she WAS on duty at the time, contrary to what some others have said here.

I quoted and linked the direct testimony in the hearing today, along with the link.

What part of

Her shift at the front desk was ending and she wanted to go home, he said.

don't you understand.

Do not insinuate that I am saying things I am not; I can always back up what I say.

220 posted on 10/09/2003 5:15:55 PM PDT by Howlin
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