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'We Have to Destroy California to Save It': Arnold Opposes AND Supports Illegal Immigration
Toogood Reports ^ | 6 October 2003 | Nicholas Stix

Posted on 10/06/2003 5:26:26 AM PDT by mrustow

Unlike other politicians today and the media, who routinely refer to illegal immigrants as simply “immigrants,” California gubernatorial candidate Arnold Schwarzenegger — who is favored to win Tuesday's recall election — actually calls them “illegal immigrants.” And unlike so many pols and scribes across the political spectrum, Schwarzenegger clearly declares, “Let me be clear: I do not support an amnesty program.” And unlike Democrat politicians, Schwarzenegger opposes issuing California drivers licenses to illegals.

By contrast, on September 5, in a secret ceremony reserved for Hispanics and the Hispanic media, desperate, Democrat California Gov. Gray Davis signed SB60, giving illegals the right to acquire California drivers licenses. Those California drivers licenses will also function as cards letting their bearers illegally vote, and illegally receive social services, including welfare, Medicaid, and food stamps. At his campaign web site, Schwarzenegger says, “As Governor I will: Work to repeal SB 60 as quickly as possible.”

So, what´s not to like?

Well … the same candidate who claims to oppose issuing drivers licenses to illegal aliens, supports making all illegals, legal aliens. You heard right. He also calls on Washington to offset the costs of providing education, health care, and social services to illegals. “Deportation,” he tells us, “is not an option.”

Oh, but it is. The immigration policy alternative is, deportation or amnesty. Anyone who opposes deportation, by default favors amnesty, using whatever “deliberate disguises,” and stretched over however many years. If illegal immigrants are permitted to remain on American soil, they will all eventually be granted citizenship. That is the meaning of amnesty, euphemisms notwithstanding.

Let us be clear: Arnold Schwarzenegger supports an amnesty program.

(To those who suggest a third option of illegals returning to their homelands, applying for American citizenship the legal, old-fashioned way, and waiting for years to get to the front of the line, I say this. Anyone who holds U.S. law in contempt, meaning your typical illegal alien, who now makes demands of federal, state, and local government, will laugh at such a proposal. Such people believe that obeying the law is for losers. And so far, they´re right.)

I think that as in the case of with George W. Bush, an awful lot of people have underestimated Arnold Schwarzenegger. A man who can dissemble and equivocate with such virtuosity is a born politician. And he can even use honesty as an effective policy, when it suits him. Just look at his slick admission to, and apology for groping women on movie sets over the years, in response to the Los Angeles Times/Democrat Party´s 2003 October Surprise. I believe that Schwarzenegger had been planning on entering politics for many, many years. Like another successful California public figure, Schwarzenegger will prove, I believe, to be much more gifted as a politician than as an actor. But unlike that other public figure, it is much harder to unearth what, if anything, Arnold Schwarzenegger believes, and assuming he has any principles, whether he has the courage of his convictions.

And the foregoing goes for the national GOP, in spades. George W. Bush will likely win the 2004 election, for the same reason that Bill Clinton won two terms: Bush is a master politician, and like Clinton, once at the dance, refuses to dance with who brung him. Bush´s rejection of his own base, is the story of his party, as well. But the cynical centrism that George Bush can get away with, will not work for politicians who lack his unique combination of aristocratic lineage, the common touch, Evangelical faith, personal magnetism and foreign affairs patriotism.

As Steve Sailer has often pointed out, one of the GOP´s greatest weaknesses, is its apparent belief that some people´s (i.e., blacks and Hispanics´) votes are morally superior to other people´s (whites, and particularly, white men´s) votes. And so, Republicans pander to blacks, and especially, (Sailer speaks of “Hispandering”) to Hispanics, while leaving their white base in the lurch. But the GOP´s chances at winning elections are entirely dependent on getting out the white vote, particularly, whites who usually don´t vote. GOP pandering to minorities only helps the Democrats, since those groups overwhelmingly vote Democrat (over 90% of blacks, and approximately 67% of Hispanics, in national elections). And the rejection of white voters implicit in such pandering to minorities, results in many white voters staying home on Election Day.

I fail to see how a Schwarzenegger governorship will improve California over Gray Davis´ governorship, or even the potential governorship of Democrat Lt. Gov. Cruz Bustamente, a recall candidate and a founding member of the national socialist-like, racist Mexican group, Mecha. As Schwarzenegger´s True Lies co-star, Jamie Lee Curtis, said approvingly, after his announcement that he would run as a Republican, Schwarzenegger is really a liberal Democrat.

And so it is, increasingly, with Republicans nationally, who unlike politicians of all stripes in our neighbor countries of Canada and Mexico, lack the backbone to say no to the illegal immigrants who are destroying America´s economy, system of law, and civilization. If Americans are to have a chance to save their nation from the elites who are busy sacrificing her, either a new political party, say, a Sovereignty Party, must be founded, or a wing within the Republican Party must arise and change the direction of the GOP, in either case, led by politicians such as Colorado Rep. Tom Tancredo.

During the Vietnam War, after burning a village to the ground, an Army officer is supposed to have said, “We had to destroy the village, in order to save it.” Today’s GOP seems to be saying, "We have to destroy America, in order to save her."


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; Mexico; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: amnesty; californiarecall; ccrm; cruzbustamante; deportation; georgewbush; graydavis; illegalimmigration; immigration; latimes; mcclintock; mecha; recall; sb60; schwarzenegger; tomtancredo
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To: Howlin
Other than him.
21 posted on 10/06/2003 6:01:49 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Even if the government took all your earnings, you wouldn’t be, in its eyes, a slave.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
Do you mean you want Tom Tancredo to fix the GOP?
22 posted on 10/06/2003 6:04:28 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: mrustow
What I am saying is that if Steve Sailer says that it's the GOP that values black and Hispanic votes more than any other, he's completely out of the loop.

It's the Democrats who do that, not us.
23 posted on 10/06/2003 6:06:21 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: Howlin
I wish you were right, but the behavior of Mssrs. Bush and Rove suggest otherwise.
24 posted on 10/06/2003 6:09:33 AM PDT by mrustow (no tag)
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To: mrustow
I support immigration reform, meaning, I support better border control. I do not support slamming our doors shut to the world because of some nebulous "Western Culture" nonsense.
25 posted on 10/06/2003 6:12:53 AM PDT by republicanwizard
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To: mrustow
That, of course, is your opinion; and your characterization.

But if it works for you, go ahead.
26 posted on 10/06/2003 6:13:06 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: Howlin
I don't recall any Republican either directly or indirectly making this argument.

It's just sheer math.
27 posted on 10/06/2003 6:13:53 AM PDT by republicanwizard
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To: mrustow
Why do we need immigration reform to enforce existing laws? To me, immigration reform sounds more like finding a way to legitimize lawlessness.
28 posted on 10/06/2003 6:14:12 AM PDT by sweetliberty ("Having the right to do a thing is not at all the same thing as being right in doing it.")
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To: mrustow
Well, what should they do, act as if 20% of the American population doesn't exist? Would that make you happy?
29 posted on 10/06/2003 6:15:15 AM PDT by republicanwizard
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To: republicanwizard
I'd destroy this party before I see it taken over by Tom Tancredo.

Why? What's wrong with Tancredo?



Hey I could actually learn something...scary as that may seem.
30 posted on 10/06/2003 6:18:10 AM PDT by Valin (I have my own little world, but it's okay - they know me here.)
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To: Valin
Because he is a demagogue, and I don't like demagogues.
31 posted on 10/06/2003 6:21:04 AM PDT by republicanwizard
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To: mrustow
Only problem is, the illegal Mexicans are still going to vote for Democratic Party I.

Mexico has free democratic elections. All anyone needs to do is look at the way the Mexican people have voted back home ----- for leftist marxists must like Bustamante and Davis, look at their recent elections ---- they've taken a sharp left turn ---- why anyone thinks these are people who are likely to vote Republican is way beyond belief.

32 posted on 10/06/2003 6:24:17 AM PDT by FITZ
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To: republicanwizard
"Western Culture" nonsense.

Western Culture isn't nonsense. All you need to do is look around, you'll see vast differences in the USA and third world countries, if you compare countries like Mexico and the USA, you'll find similar natural resources, except Mexico has more oil and better weather. The difference is the culture. That's why they have an over 80% poverty rate and the type of government they have.

33 posted on 10/06/2003 6:28:05 AM PDT by FITZ
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To: Howlin
SOMEBODY needs to fis it and so far Tancredo is one of the few who have been willing to recognize that the emperor has no clothes, i.e. the the GOP is pandering to illegals at the expense of national security.
34 posted on 10/06/2003 6:30:04 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Even if the government took all your earnings, you wouldn’t be, in its eyes, a slave.)
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To: FITZ
"The difference is the culture. That's why they have an over 80% poverty rate and the type of government they have."

Just what the Southern masters of the whip said about the slaves from Africa.

Judge not that ye be not judged.
35 posted on 10/06/2003 6:31:10 AM PDT by republicanwizard
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To: republicanwizard
I don't think bringing in slaves from Africa was the greatest idea either. Cheap labor has it's costs.
36 posted on 10/06/2003 6:34:06 AM PDT by FITZ
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To: republicanwizard
I also don't think all the cheap labor from Europe in the late 1800s which led to Socialist Labor Unions was a great idea either.
37 posted on 10/06/2003 6:35:33 AM PDT by FITZ
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To: FITZ
if you compare countries like Mexico and the USA, you'll find similar natural resources, except Mexico has more oil and better weather.

And herein lies the solution to the Illegal Immigration problem. What we need to do is put pressure on Mexico to reform their government and society. There's a good reason why we don't have a flood of Illegal Immigrates coming from Canada.
As nature abhors a vacuum so to in politics and economies.

"80% poverty rate"
Chapter and verse please.
38 posted on 10/06/2003 6:54:19 AM PDT by Valin (I have my own little world, but it's okay - they know me here.)
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To: mrustow
It was SB60 that made the CLINTONS go to CA to campaign for Grey Davis. Al Gore did this in 2001 when they rushed through all the immigrant papers - so they could vote for Clinton. Janet Napolitano is trying to do this in AZ. Call your Congressmen and Senators today to Stop Illegal Immigration and NO to giving them drivers licenses! Call the White House comment line and say the same thing.
39 posted on 10/06/2003 7:09:13 AM PDT by yoe (Term Limits - and 2 terms are the limit for all Federal offices!!)
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To: Howlin
BUMP
40 posted on 10/06/2003 7:15:53 AM PDT by GrandMoM ("What is impossible with men is possible with GOD -Luke 18:27)
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