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Donovan McNabb is Right
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| October 1, 2003
| Scott Hogenson
Posted on 10/01/2003 10:49:55 AM PDT by Moosejaw
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To: Moosejaw
Rush has skillfully selected his words and made his statement. I think he was waiting for the liberal media to wake up and smell the coffee. Now it is out there and the end result with be that the liberal media will look foolish and rightly so. But the big fallout will be that a big influx of new listeners to Rush's radio program. At first, they will want to see how bad Rush really is. But that is dangerous and the liberal media has fallen into the trap. If they listen too long, they will be converted to conservatism.
Dittos Rush....
Good Hunting... from Varmint Al
To: ConservativeMan55
While the purging of Liberal-racism from ALL the media is a worthy endeavor.............I don't think much is going to be solved at this point by trying to stir up THIS particular hornets nest.
Maybe this will be good for some ratings points on his weekend show.
As I type this..........the 2:00 news on the radio led off with this story and played Rush's (previous ESPN.....)and McNabb's (latest....) remarks.
ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ.
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posted on
10/01/2003 11:04:10 AM PDT
by
DoctorMichael
(Thats my story, and I'm sticking to it.)
To: DoctorMichael
Last week Rush attened another super secret meeting.
He's planning on something big with ESPN.
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posted on
10/01/2003 11:05:27 AM PDT
by
ConservativeMan55
(If it weren't for double standards, liberals would have no standards at all!!!)
To: mhking
I've got news for you. Michael Vick, in a few years, will probably be in the "overrated" column. He's not overrated NOW because he can do things that defenses aren't built to stop YET. So he has incredible success. But other teams are catching on, drafting faster LB's. Granted, he's got a gun for an arm, but so did Jeff George. We'll see how he does once the defenses have caught up.
What really upsets me about all of this is that McNabb IS overrated, but not because of race. (The defenses just caught up to him). People that believe that black QB's are overrated because of race, will look skeptically at all the praise that MY favorite QB is receiving: Steve McNair. This is his year. He's tougher than most linebackers, almost as fast as Vick, can't be brought down, and he's finally playing smarter than any other QB in the league. He deserves every bit of credit he gets. Now, in the back of everyone's mind, when McNair gets praise it will be thought, "How much of the praise is because he's black"? That's just wrong.
To: Moosejaw
Rush should have reserved his social issues comment for his show where it would have been more appropriate. And from what I have seen on ESPN I cringe every time he speaks because his knowledge of the game ranks right up there with Lisa Guerrero on MNF.
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posted on
10/01/2003 11:08:47 AM PDT
by
Isolationist
(Wrong place and time)
To: per loin
Kordell was in the same category that Rush described. I alway thought that he was much more highly regarded than the evidence would support. The media WANTED Kordell to succeed, he was the "wave of the future". I used to argue this with my brother, who lives in Pittsburgh. Well, despite what the media believed, the Steelers must have came to a different conclusion, as Kordell now plays for the Bears.
To: Moosejaw
Hey, Rush! Come to Dallas. The blacks are screaming that the next police chief will be white just because the white power structure doesn't want a black. Then maybe, you can explain why it is OK to scream that a black should be selected because of his skin color but not OK for a white guy to suggest that a black actually got a job because of his skin color.
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posted on
10/01/2003 11:10:42 AM PDT
by
Tacis
To: Moosejaw
I guess everybody has forgotten Doug Williams "doing well" by leading the Redskins to a Super Bowl victory a few years after his career was first considered over?
To: Marc Poor
Kordell now plays for the Bears. I think you would find many Bears fans denying that.
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posted on
10/01/2003 11:13:10 AM PDT
by
per loin
To: ConservativeMan55
I am pleased to hear Rush state his opinions about football on ESPN without worrying about assuaging the feelings of the left and other overly-sensitive people; you know, all those ardent believers in race above all else (gee, that sounds like a definition of a "racist").
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posted on
10/01/2003 11:14:13 AM PDT
by
glennaro
To: Warren_Piece
Now, in the back of everyone's mind, when McNair gets praise it will be thought, "How much of the praise is because he's black"? That's just wrong.I agree with that 100% -- Steve McNair has been one of my favorites since he came in the league. The Oilers used to train in San Antonio and took my kids down to see their practice. Steve McNair and Eddie George are two very class acts with their fans. I really want to see the Titans win the Super Bowl this year.
Personally think Rush should keep his social commentary to his radio program and leave it off ESPN. I want to see the best 11 players on the field and I don't care about their color. Last year I was complaining when Dallas benched Carter and put in Hutchinson who cannot scramble!
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posted on
10/01/2003 11:30:17 AM PDT
by
PhiKapMom
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To: smiley
Yes he did, but once again.....those people who want to make an issue of it aren't listening....as Rush stated....it wasn't an issue a few days ago.....now that CNN has sink their teeth in bashing Rush; they will never let this issue go......
Good! This will bump up Rush's and ESPN's ratings! CNN NOT!
To: Warren_Piece
You make excellent points!
I have gotten away from it compared to once upon a time but, as I recall, great performances are always recognized, like Doug Williams when he won a superbowl with the Redskins and was superbowl MVP, all when his career was supposed to be essentially over.
I thought excellence on the playing field, or court, was generally recognized independent of anything else, good, bad, racial, whatever. Several NBA examples come to mind. McNabb does some good things, but McNair and Vick eclipse him easily. Favre is struggling something awful, and the question arises about how many interceptions one QB has to throw before someone says he might have lost the edge he once had, but its a Greenbay thing, not a race thing!
Nobody is questioning the competitive fire of McNabb or Favre, just as they haven't with many QBs in the past when they started to loose their edge due to injury, age, or whatever. To point out someone isn't performing to hype or erroneous expectation isn't racist, nor is to point out why hype or erroneous expectations are in place.
Excellence is recognized on it's on merit. If someone is making claims of excellence when it is not in evidence, why? Maybe Rush is right, again? - LOL!
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posted on
10/01/2003 11:31:48 AM PDT
by
mil-vet
To: Warren_Piece
What really upsets me about all of this is that McNabb IS overrated, but not because of race. (The defenses just caught up to him). People that believe that black QB's are overrated because of race, will look skeptically at all the praise that MY favorite QB is receiving: Steve McNair.You get no arguement from me. I think McNabb is nowhere near as "spectacular" as people make him out to be. He's had a good line to protect him. Give even the worst quarterbacks a good line, and they can throw balls all day long.
I have to agree with you about McNair. I call him the League's one true "Iron Man." He plays hard, he's tougher, he's smarter, he's stronger than all the other quarterbacks in the League. He plays hurt. He puts out the 110% that the best players are supposed to put out there.
He's simply the best.
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posted on
10/01/2003 12:02:56 PM PDT
by
mhking
(When it rains it pours: I'm looking for a job again -- any offers: mhking@bellsouth.net)
To: Moosejaw
Congress is "very desirous" that blacks in America do well, so we have affirmative action laws on the books.I like this piece, especially the writer saying "socialism," instead of the usual euphemism, "liberalism." However, like many other writers, he refers to "affirmative action laws." While the federal government clearly PRACTICES AA, I'm not aware of any federal AA "laws."
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posted on
10/01/2003 12:06:36 PM PDT
by
mrustow
(no tag)
To: Warren_Piece
If I could have my choice of NFL quarterback, I would take McNair. Tough as nails. Fearless. Money.
Last year, the Jersey Giants, led by Kerry Collins, were leading the Oilers, er, Titans, by 20 points after three quarters. Collins is one of the better NFL QBs, with one of the strongest arms in the league. No matter. McNair led a charge that inspired his team on both sides of the ball, and suddenly the Giants looked like pikers. Meanwhile, Collins turned into a plastic man, and melted under the heat. I believe McNair led the Titans to a tie at the end of regulation, and that they won it in overtime. In any event, I know he led them to the seemingly impossible win. Statistics notwithstanding, I believe you spell that kind of a player, "M-V-P."
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posted on
10/01/2003 12:13:28 PM PDT
by
mrustow
(no tag)
To: Marc Poor
I always thought the problem with Kordell, was that people fell in love with his tools, rather than his performance. They kept thinking that a guy with so many skills couldn't fail, but overlooked his lack of judgment/intelligence.
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posted on
10/01/2003 12:17:30 PM PDT
by
mrustow
(no tag)
To: per loin
McNabb, after his best game of the year, is now rated number 30 out of 32 NFL quarterbacks, just barely ahead of Kordell.The Eagles defense carried the team until this year when they lost the best guys to free agency. Put McNabb on the Chargers and the Chargers will still suck.
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posted on
10/01/2003 12:30:13 PM PDT
by
b4its2late
(Warning: Dates in Calendar are closer than they appear.)
To: mrustow
Personally I'm quite a fan of very versatile QB's. I'm not a fan of having an offense being stigmatized as only passing or rushing. The more versatile the QB, I think the more you'll win football games. Personally, I've enjoyed watching the performance of McNabb last year (before his injury) This year I think one of the previous posters is right, the defenses caught up with him.
Michael Vick is certainly talented and versatile. When will start to see more versatile QB's regardless of whether they're white, orange, green purple??? I like versatility vs. a unilateral offense...
--erik
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posted on
10/01/2003 12:39:09 PM PDT
by
erikm88
To: mhking; martin_fierro
I also thought we were over that deal. McNab is not a franchise-carrying quarterback (ala Michael Vick or Kurt Warner - at least until this year), but he's not as awful as someone like Ryan Leaf was.As a native of the 'Burgh, I want to make it perfectly clear that Rush Limbaugh's comments are NOT reflective of true Stiller fans. IMHO, he's just a Stiller fan wannabe: a 50-yard-line, luxury skybox, country-club RINO. He just don't fit in with us beer drinkin', die-hard, blue collar, endzone-seats-in-the-dead-of-winter types who judge players STRICTLY on the merits of their capabilities on the field.
Football is WAR. Yes, there are rules to abide by that make it a somewhat more civilized substitute for war, but it is war nonetheless. And there just isn't any room in the game for the nonsense that Rush was alluding to.
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posted on
10/01/2003 12:52:23 PM PDT
by
Willie Green
(Go Pat Go!!!)
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