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Radio host infuriates cyclists
The Raleigh News & Observer ^ | 10/1/03 | BRUCE SICELOFF

Posted on 10/01/2003 6:49:41 AM PDT by Hatteras

Radio host infuriates cyclists

By BRUCE SICELOFF, Staff Writer

G105 radio host Bob Dumas told listeners last week that he just hated to see bicycle riders on the road. He laughed at stories about running cyclists down, and he talked up the idea of throwing bottles at bikers. It wasn't funny to cycling enthusiasts across the Triangle. This week they are lobbying government officials and local advertisers in a campaign to punish radio station WDCG and its corporate owner, Clear Channel of San Antonio, and to promote bicycle safety."One caller said her dad had purposely hit a biker on the road on the way to church one Sunday and kept on going," said G105 listener Holly N. Proctor of Cary on Tuesday of the Sept. 21 and 22 broadcasts. "That got laughs. Bob thought that was funny.

"And Bob said he'd love to be on a motorcycle and driving it down a bike lane. Because he didn't think bikers should be allowed on the road. He said they should ride on the sidewalk," she said.

Proctor, a photo technician at N.C. State University, joined two dozen fellow cyclists at a 5 p.m. protest outside the radio station's offices in North Raleigh.

Tom Norman , director of the N.C. Division of Bicycle and Pedestrian Transportation , said that reports about the broadcasts revealed dangerous ignorance of state law.

"I have talked to the G105 manager, who was not aware that it is legal to ride bicycles on the public roadways of North Carolina, that cycles are legally recognized as vehicles in North Carolina," Norman said. "Where do you draw the line? What is the distinction between humor and actually inciting or encouraging listeners to harass a group of people?"

Kenneth C. Spitzer, the station manager, declined to provide tapes or transcripts of the broadcasts to Norman or to a Capital Area transportation planning committee that discussed the controversy Tuesday.

In e-mail responses to several Triangle area residents who complained to the station, Spitzer said the "Bob and Madison " show aims to entertain listeners with "animated banter ... that can be both humorous and caustic." But he said some comments last week "went too far, and for that we sincerely apologize.

"Be assured that G105 does not advocate harm to cyclists," he wrote.

G105 is the third Clear Channel station to draw fire in the past four months for on-air comments perceived as advocating violence or animosity toward bicycle riders. Officials at WMJI in Cleveland and KLOL in Houston apologized in July and September for similar remarks. They agreed to broadcast "share the road" messages and to finance bicycle safety campaigns.

Leaders of the N.C. Bicycle Club outlined requests they said would help Clear Channel "mend relations with Triangle bicyclists," including similar public safety campaigns and a detailed apology.

Spitzer declined to comment. A corporate spokeswoman to whom inquiries were directed Tuesday did not return calls.

Members of area cycling clubs have shared copies over the past week of protest letters to the Federal Communications Commission, to state and local prosecutors and to G105 sponsors. Several critics noted that G105 radio hosts have sparked controversy in the past with crude stunts.

"It's one thing to drive around with a naked man on the radio station's van," said Raleigh lawyer Kimberly Bryan. "To encourage citizens to harm cyclists, that has crossed a different line. It's irresponsible. It's not caustic, it's not banter, it's not funny."

David Smith , 38, a software developer at UNC-Chapel Hill, took it personally. His right forearm still bears the scar of an attack by an Orange County motorist who found Smith cycling down a rural road one afternoon in April 2001.

"How are people going to take this, what was mentioned on G105?" Smith asked. "Are people going to say, 'You know, I'm tired of these cyclists?' Is that situation going to exacerbate what happened to me, with somebody else coming down a back road?"

After running Smith off the road, the driver stopped, chased him down on foot and struck him with a hatchet, sending him into a ditch and over the handlebars of his wrecked bike. Marvin Glenn Manring of Orange County pleaded guilty in July 2001 to assault with a deadly weapon. He promised to enroll in an anger management program.

Staff writer Bruce Siceloff can be reached at 829-4527 or bsicelof@newsobserver.com.


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: bicycles; commuters; roadrage
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To: bicycle thug
LOLOL! manymmachines=many machines

Good thing I ride better then my ten tumbs type ;-)

341 posted on 10/01/2003 9:18:42 AM PDT by bicycle thug (Fortia facere et pati Americanum est.)
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To: Hatteras
I rode a bicycle from the coast of Oregon to the coast of Delaware when I was in college. There is no reason for an experienced cyclist to take up more than a foot or two on next to the line on the side of the road. If he does, he shouldn't be riding in traffic....

One thing I've constantly observed with motorists though, is giving cyclists WAY too much space on the side....I'll be riding within one foot of the line and cars behind with plenty of space, won't pass, evidently because they are nervous drivers, not realizing how narrow their vehicle really is.

Many times the troubles with bicyclists are just as much the fault of drivers as they are the cyclist... You can't get mad at a cyclist just because stupid drivers won't pass him.

I think the writer calling for concealed carry for cyclists facing violent motorists is on the mark.

Watch out drivers, if you try to hurt (or more likely kill) a cyclist you may wake up in the hot place...
342 posted on 10/01/2003 9:20:06 AM PDT by AnalogReigns
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To: RoughDobermann
120 psi??? Gads, when I rode, the max was about 45...I blew out a tire on my BMX bike in the 80s with 35 psi...just sitting in the driveway in the sun. Is your screen name a description of how the ride on 120 psi feels? LOL.

The problem with where I live is there are precious few nearby trails for bikes and it takes a drive to reach them. When I was a kid, we could ride all over town and only had to be really careful on a few roads.

Now, every road is jam-packed with traffic and the town has tripled in population and about doubled in area.

Not safe for kids to ride in the streets anymore.

343 posted on 10/01/2003 9:26:31 AM PDT by IYAS9YAS (Go Fast, Turn Left!)
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To: Lazamataz
Nice photo, Laz. But why did you shave of your Fu Man Chu??

I am thoroughly enjoying this testosterone-war that is trying to pass for a thread. But I am disappointed that nobody has been creative enough to combine their hatreds for various groups and start bashing gay Islamic French cyclists.

Man, do I love to run over those guys before they have a chance to curse infidel "breeders" and surrender... 8~)

344 posted on 10/01/2003 9:29:14 AM PDT by tracer
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To: olorin
"I've driven vehicles a lot bigger than your little pickup - yet I've never felt the need to remind people in smaller vehicles that I could squish them."

That's good, 'cause actions speak louder than words and provide much less warning...... 8~)

345 posted on 10/01/2003 9:30:56 AM PDT by tracer
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To: AnalogReigns
I agree. I'd much rather have a car pass me a little close than hang back until he thinks he's clear, floor it and cut me off.

I usually give a safe signal and wave a car past me.
346 posted on 10/01/2003 9:30:56 AM PDT by cyclotic (Forget United Fraud (way) donate directly to your local Boy Scout Council.)
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To: Lazamataz
OK, that, too......
347 posted on 10/01/2003 9:32:16 AM PDT by tracer
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To: tracer
right you are . . .
348 posted on 10/01/2003 9:33:19 AM PDT by olorin
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To: AnalogReigns
"I think the writer calling for concealed carry for cyclists facing violent motorists is on the mark.

Watch out drivers, if you try to hurt (or more likely kill) a cyclist you may wake up in the hot place..."

You see, this kind of talk is worthless. If a motorist decides he's going to "kill" a bicyclist, not even Richochet Rabbit could pull a gun out of his fannie-pack fast enough for it to do any good. Bicycle riders with guns in their fannie-packs will be able to defend themselves from muggers and other idiots that threaten them from the side of the road, but you're fooling yourself if you think a bicyclist can defend themselves from a Yugo even if it approaches from behind at 45mph.

349 posted on 10/01/2003 9:34:25 AM PDT by Hatteras (Some mornings, it's just not worth chewing through the leather straps...)
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To: Hatteras
Yet a firearm may have protected the individual who was attacked with the hatchet in the news story you posted.
350 posted on 10/01/2003 9:36:28 AM PDT by olorin
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To: AnalogReigns
I rode a bicycle from the coast of Oregon to the coast of Delaware when I was in college.

Awesome accomplishment !

352 posted on 10/01/2003 9:39:37 AM PDT by af_vet_1981
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To: IYAS9YAS
Is your screen name a description of how the ride on 120 psi feels?

LOL! No, but perhaps it should be! 120 psi really isn't that bad, wearing padded cycling shorts, that is...

353 posted on 10/01/2003 9:42:24 AM PDT by RoughDobermann (Nuke the site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.)
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To: olorin
If the guy hadn't chased the bicyclist on foot and just stayed in his truck and sped off. A gun would have been worthless. But the moment the guy stops and gets out of his vehicle he falls into that "mugger and other idiot" category. Hey, fire away.
354 posted on 10/01/2003 9:43:56 AM PDT by Hatteras (Some mornings, it's just not worth chewing through the leather straps...)
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To: Hatteras
fair enough . . .
355 posted on 10/01/2003 9:44:50 AM PDT by olorin
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To: ironman
"It seems by adding those little 3 words you want to impose some similar "suffering" on others that you may have experienced."

Exactly. This is part of the 'price' for using the road that
I must pay. Why should cyclists get the same priviledges without paying the price?
356 posted on 10/01/2003 9:44:59 AM PDT by bk1000 (one of these days I simply MUST come up with a decent tag line.)
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To: ArrogantBustard
I'd like to invite you to try the Rails for Trails paths in northern Idaho...beautiful. Several tunnels and tressles. One tunnel is almost 3 miles long IIRC. Cost a couple of bucks to ride, but well worth it. Not a fast ride because it is a multi-use trail (pedestrian and cycle - unpaved). I'll see if I can find you a link.
357 posted on 10/01/2003 9:48:30 AM PDT by IYAS9YAS (Go Fast, Turn Left!)
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To: CygnusXI
Mmmm, a few claymores'll take care of the problem...
358 posted on 10/01/2003 9:50:56 AM PDT by HolgerDansk (Vikings: The Original Amphibious Warriors)
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To: motzman
They will get this old guy off the road, when they pry my steering wheel from my cold dead fingers! Or when I am not fit to be out there-I'll know when that time comes. I am neither suicidal nor homicidal, I will stop driving of my own free will at the proper time.

My eyes are good, my nerves are good, my coordination is good, my sanity is better than it was when I was young and so is my patience. I have learned to control my temper as well-only a fool would react in such a way as to piss off one of the many nut cases driving the roads these days.
359 posted on 10/01/2003 9:57:55 AM PDT by F.J. Mitchell (To damnedocrats, truth is a pest that unfairly deprives a liar of his/her credibility.)
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To: tracer; ironman
"Your Glock sign likely would attract police "protection" in DC, but such might be fortunate if the offending paint-ballers were carrying real weapons, as is not uncommon around here. Please be careful......"

Like any cyclist, I'm quite sure he takes his location into consideration.

Myself, I grew up here and know who and what I am dealing with and this is largely a liberal town of posers who are tootsieroll pops. Hard on the outside, soft and squishy inside behind the wheel.

When I was a paratrooper, I was way more careful about tangling with dead minds driving. Ft. Bragg/Fayetteville/Spring Lake has thousands of drivers at least as formitable as I can be and more. You have to size up the situation and react appropriately based on where you are as much as anything else.

A friend of mine flipped off a horn honker in the turn lane. He was on a Harley and it had stalled. The driver calmly got out, shot him in the buttocks with a 22 cal. revolver - one in each cheek - and calmly drove off. Now, that was cold.

360 posted on 10/01/2003 10:04:50 AM PDT by bicycle thug (Fortia facere et pati Americanum est.)
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