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Radio host infuriates cyclists
The Raleigh News & Observer ^ | 10/1/03 | BRUCE SICELOFF

Posted on 10/01/2003 6:49:41 AM PDT by Hatteras

Radio host infuriates cyclists

By BRUCE SICELOFF, Staff Writer

G105 radio host Bob Dumas told listeners last week that he just hated to see bicycle riders on the road. He laughed at stories about running cyclists down, and he talked up the idea of throwing bottles at bikers. It wasn't funny to cycling enthusiasts across the Triangle. This week they are lobbying government officials and local advertisers in a campaign to punish radio station WDCG and its corporate owner, Clear Channel of San Antonio, and to promote bicycle safety."One caller said her dad had purposely hit a biker on the road on the way to church one Sunday and kept on going," said G105 listener Holly N. Proctor of Cary on Tuesday of the Sept. 21 and 22 broadcasts. "That got laughs. Bob thought that was funny.

"And Bob said he'd love to be on a motorcycle and driving it down a bike lane. Because he didn't think bikers should be allowed on the road. He said they should ride on the sidewalk," she said.

Proctor, a photo technician at N.C. State University, joined two dozen fellow cyclists at a 5 p.m. protest outside the radio station's offices in North Raleigh.

Tom Norman , director of the N.C. Division of Bicycle and Pedestrian Transportation , said that reports about the broadcasts revealed dangerous ignorance of state law.

"I have talked to the G105 manager, who was not aware that it is legal to ride bicycles on the public roadways of North Carolina, that cycles are legally recognized as vehicles in North Carolina," Norman said. "Where do you draw the line? What is the distinction between humor and actually inciting or encouraging listeners to harass a group of people?"

Kenneth C. Spitzer, the station manager, declined to provide tapes or transcripts of the broadcasts to Norman or to a Capital Area transportation planning committee that discussed the controversy Tuesday.

In e-mail responses to several Triangle area residents who complained to the station, Spitzer said the "Bob and Madison " show aims to entertain listeners with "animated banter ... that can be both humorous and caustic." But he said some comments last week "went too far, and for that we sincerely apologize.

"Be assured that G105 does not advocate harm to cyclists," he wrote.

G105 is the third Clear Channel station to draw fire in the past four months for on-air comments perceived as advocating violence or animosity toward bicycle riders. Officials at WMJI in Cleveland and KLOL in Houston apologized in July and September for similar remarks. They agreed to broadcast "share the road" messages and to finance bicycle safety campaigns.

Leaders of the N.C. Bicycle Club outlined requests they said would help Clear Channel "mend relations with Triangle bicyclists," including similar public safety campaigns and a detailed apology.

Spitzer declined to comment. A corporate spokeswoman to whom inquiries were directed Tuesday did not return calls.

Members of area cycling clubs have shared copies over the past week of protest letters to the Federal Communications Commission, to state and local prosecutors and to G105 sponsors. Several critics noted that G105 radio hosts have sparked controversy in the past with crude stunts.

"It's one thing to drive around with a naked man on the radio station's van," said Raleigh lawyer Kimberly Bryan. "To encourage citizens to harm cyclists, that has crossed a different line. It's irresponsible. It's not caustic, it's not banter, it's not funny."

David Smith , 38, a software developer at UNC-Chapel Hill, took it personally. His right forearm still bears the scar of an attack by an Orange County motorist who found Smith cycling down a rural road one afternoon in April 2001.

"How are people going to take this, what was mentioned on G105?" Smith asked. "Are people going to say, 'You know, I'm tired of these cyclists?' Is that situation going to exacerbate what happened to me, with somebody else coming down a back road?"

After running Smith off the road, the driver stopped, chased him down on foot and struck him with a hatchet, sending him into a ditch and over the handlebars of his wrecked bike. Marvin Glenn Manring of Orange County pleaded guilty in July 2001 to assault with a deadly weapon. He promised to enroll in an anger management program.

Staff writer Bruce Siceloff can be reached at 829-4527 or bsicelof@newsobserver.com.


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: bicycles; commuters; roadrage
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To: Servant of the 9
Oh, well then I think you're lying.
201 posted on 10/01/2003 8:20:15 AM PDT by olorin
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To: Hank Rearden; All
Does anyone else find it interesting that cyclist attire keeps coming up, typically along with "homo" this and that? Obviously, some here are allowing their deeply repressed homosexual tendencies to bubble to the surface. I'll keep that in mind next time some a-hole tries to knock me off my bike...
202 posted on 10/01/2003 8:20:15 AM PDT by RoughDobermann (Nuke the site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.)
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To: Lazamataz
However, it infuriates me to see these spandex-covered twinks on their road bikes who insist on riding in the center of the lane.

Those are the ones. Isn't that a ticketable or arrestable offense?

Most (all?) states have laws establishing penalties for "obstructing traffic".

Unfortunately, I would wonder whether any cyclist has ever been ticketed for this, or for running a stop light or stop sign or, for that matter, violating any of dozens of other traffic laws which motorists must obey. How often is a cyclist arrested for DUI? How often is a cyclist ticketed for "reckless riding" or riding too fast for conditions, or failing to yield?

They want the same privileges as motorists, but don't want the same responsibilities. If a car hits a cyclist, it's the driver's fault. If a cyclist runs into a car, it's still the driver's fault. If my car is parked legally, and a cyclist runs into it and damages something, my insurance and my deductible pays for it, unless I haul the idiot into court (if I'm lucky enough to be able to catch the guy-no license plate number to track him).

Motorists pay huge insurance premiums and lots of taxes for the use of the roads. Cyclists pay nothing, and they wonder why some motorists don't appreciate their antics.

203 posted on 10/01/2003 8:21:55 AM PDT by Fresh Wind
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To: ironman
"...or go across in the crosswalk"

And should we assume that you step off your bike to walk thru the cross walk like you should? Isn't the crosswalk a continuation of the sidewalk? Is this more of that "Rules of the Road but only when it's convenient" stuff?

204 posted on 10/01/2003 8:22:27 AM PDT by Hatteras (Some mornings, it's just not worth chewing through the leather straps...)
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To: af_vet_1981
Did I, or did I not state that it would be a SHAME if I hit that nice young man?

You seem to be jumping to a lot of conclusions. With all that jumping, perhaps you don't need to bike any more.

205 posted on 10/01/2003 8:22:39 AM PDT by Lazamataz (I am the extended middle finger in the fist of life.)
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To: Lijahsbubbe
If it isn't, spandex should be.

I've said it before, and I'll say it again . . .

Spandex is a PRIVILEGE, not a right.
206 posted on 10/01/2003 8:23:08 AM PDT by Xenalyte (I may not agree with your bumper sticker, but I'll defend to the death your right to stick it)
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To: Skip Ripley
Skip,

Actually, in both collisions I saw, the cyclist went down and was injured. Also was bigger than the blader. One case was an accident. The other may have been a purposeful hit by the biker. He tried to sue the girl on blades. However, he still got injured pretty badly.

I agree and rag on poor bikers who do not respect the rules of the road. However, let's differentiate between a bike rider and a cyclist. Bike riders generally are riding a trashy bike, wearing jeans or cut offs, no helmet, lights or other safety equipment and often ride late at night and on the wrong side of the road.

A true cyclist wears safety gear. Spandex, (yea, you look like a dork, but the benefits of performance clothing after 50-100 miles of riding far outweigh the appearance)helmet. A cyclist will ride the road, but generaly as near the edge as is safe.

I occasionally will jump a red light. However, my justification is that I can get far enough ahead of traffic so as to allow the cars to spread out a little and cause little or no interference to traffic. If I see that I'm backing up traffic, I'll try to pull over, speed up, slow down or whatever else I can do to not be an impediment.

Another analogy. My drive to work is about 15 miles. Using the same route, it takes me 54 minutes to ride my bike. 53 minutes by car.
207 posted on 10/01/2003 8:23:09 AM PDT by cyclotic (Forget United Fraud (way) donate directly to your local Boy Scout Council.)
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To: RoughDobermann
Why not go 30 or 45 miles under the speed limit? Cause it is not safe. For anyone on the road.

Many states have minimum speed laws for cars for most roads that is set to keep the closing velocity down in the reasonable numbers. If a bike is supposed to folow all the laws that a vehicle is supposed to follow, I could imagine that this minimum speed would also be a good idea, but not real feasible for the biker. If the road has a speed limit that is totally unachievable for the bike, the bike should try very hard to stay out of the way. Forcing the cars behind the bike to go at it's speed is not at all safe, especially for the cars at the rear of the line
208 posted on 10/01/2003 8:23:25 AM PDT by Geritol (Lord willing, there will be a later...)
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To: RoughDobermann
Yeah, I was doing that because I know it really bugs you guys when people do that....


209 posted on 10/01/2003 8:23:32 AM PDT by Skip Ripley
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To: Xenalyte
I can't remember exactly, but I think the newspaper said the old guy was dead from the truck impact before he even hit the ground.
I stopped and called 911 from a pay phone, and then had to wait for the police to get there.

To tell you the truth, it's something I wish I had never seen.

210 posted on 10/01/2003 8:23:57 AM PDT by Constitution Day (Eschew exclamatory abuse.)
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To: Hatteras
I do not fire wildly. I know how and when to use a firearm, and it is merely part of the equation. I did say emminent harm didn't I?

I have gone out to ride early in the morning and run into University kids still up and stinking from a night of partying.

A car with kids picked on me once near the jail without provication, and they pursied until they saw me next to the deputy in the pack of that building who was preparing the daily road crew to go work some of their crime penalties off. They left, of course.

Now, if they had cornered me and bailed out to beat me up as was their prime intention...

211 posted on 10/01/2003 8:24:06 AM PDT by bicycle thug (Fortia facere et pati Americanum est.)
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To: ironman
Bump for later read. I can't believe some of the crap I'm reading on this thread.
212 posted on 10/01/2003 8:24:28 AM PDT by Diverdogz
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To: cyclotic
...Using the same route, it takes me 54 minutes to ride my bike. 53 minutes by car.

"If you don't like the way I drive, get off the trail!"

&^)

213 posted on 10/01/2003 8:25:13 AM PDT by SGCOS
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To: dead
Apparently, there is a whole big world out there, far from my couch, that is an unpleasant world of cyclists fighting drivers fighting skateboarders.

Apparantly, this is what it looks like out there:


214 posted on 10/01/2003 8:26:04 AM PDT by Lazamataz (I am the extended middle finger in the fist of life.)
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To: Rebelbase
"By law I have every right to be on the road"

Perhaps, but you can't hold up traffic and then turn into a pedestrian at a red light. Also, if one is to ride a bike on a street, he should have to wait in line and buy a tag, just like others on the road. If you don't want motorists to hate you, perhaps a bit of self-policing toward those stereotypical cyclists would be beneficial. I take no *rap from in-yer-face cyclists. You bring this on yourselves.
215 posted on 10/01/2003 8:26:06 AM PDT by bk1000 (one of these days I simply MUST come up with a decent tag line.)
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To: Lazamataz
You're not fooling anyone. It's your credibility that is at stake on future threads.

Cyclists certainly run more risks and they should always be cognizant of the effect they have on traffic.

When I was a child I would ride for miles on streets with no helmet. Back then, what kids thought there were evil people behind the wheel that wanted to hit them ?

216 posted on 10/01/2003 8:26:48 AM PDT by af_vet_1981
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To: Lazamataz
Ludacris is coooool, but he's no Mystikal. (I finally learned how to ass-tap over the weekend, and Mystikal provides the anthem for said activity.)
217 posted on 10/01/2003 8:27:08 AM PDT by Xenalyte (I may not agree with your bumper sticker, but I'll defend to the death your right to stick it)
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To: ironman
At stops signs I'll wait my turn. At red lights more often than not I'll ride up to the red light. It's safer as to cross as the light changes from red to green or go across in the crosswalk.

So in other words, you obey traffic laws when it suits you.

218 posted on 10/01/2003 8:27:53 AM PDT by Sloth ("I feel like I'm taking crazy pills!" -- Jacobim Mugatu, 'Zoolander')
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To: Hank Rearden
"skintight homo-clown outfits"

Skintight clothing serves a very functional purpose. Your home-clown comment is a cheap shot.
219 posted on 10/01/2003 8:28:02 AM PDT by ironman
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To: ArrogantBustard
Ask the men with the nice canvas jacket.

And the leather hood?


220 posted on 10/01/2003 8:28:24 AM PDT by Lazamataz (I am the extended middle finger in the fist of life.)
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