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Radio host infuriates cyclists
The Raleigh News & Observer ^ | 10/1/03 | BRUCE SICELOFF

Posted on 10/01/2003 6:49:41 AM PDT by Hatteras

Radio host infuriates cyclists

By BRUCE SICELOFF, Staff Writer

G105 radio host Bob Dumas told listeners last week that he just hated to see bicycle riders on the road. He laughed at stories about running cyclists down, and he talked up the idea of throwing bottles at bikers. It wasn't funny to cycling enthusiasts across the Triangle. This week they are lobbying government officials and local advertisers in a campaign to punish radio station WDCG and its corporate owner, Clear Channel of San Antonio, and to promote bicycle safety."One caller said her dad had purposely hit a biker on the road on the way to church one Sunday and kept on going," said G105 listener Holly N. Proctor of Cary on Tuesday of the Sept. 21 and 22 broadcasts. "That got laughs. Bob thought that was funny.

"And Bob said he'd love to be on a motorcycle and driving it down a bike lane. Because he didn't think bikers should be allowed on the road. He said they should ride on the sidewalk," she said.

Proctor, a photo technician at N.C. State University, joined two dozen fellow cyclists at a 5 p.m. protest outside the radio station's offices in North Raleigh.

Tom Norman , director of the N.C. Division of Bicycle and Pedestrian Transportation , said that reports about the broadcasts revealed dangerous ignorance of state law.

"I have talked to the G105 manager, who was not aware that it is legal to ride bicycles on the public roadways of North Carolina, that cycles are legally recognized as vehicles in North Carolina," Norman said. "Where do you draw the line? What is the distinction between humor and actually inciting or encouraging listeners to harass a group of people?"

Kenneth C. Spitzer, the station manager, declined to provide tapes or transcripts of the broadcasts to Norman or to a Capital Area transportation planning committee that discussed the controversy Tuesday.

In e-mail responses to several Triangle area residents who complained to the station, Spitzer said the "Bob and Madison " show aims to entertain listeners with "animated banter ... that can be both humorous and caustic." But he said some comments last week "went too far, and for that we sincerely apologize.

"Be assured that G105 does not advocate harm to cyclists," he wrote.

G105 is the third Clear Channel station to draw fire in the past four months for on-air comments perceived as advocating violence or animosity toward bicycle riders. Officials at WMJI in Cleveland and KLOL in Houston apologized in July and September for similar remarks. They agreed to broadcast "share the road" messages and to finance bicycle safety campaigns.

Leaders of the N.C. Bicycle Club outlined requests they said would help Clear Channel "mend relations with Triangle bicyclists," including similar public safety campaigns and a detailed apology.

Spitzer declined to comment. A corporate spokeswoman to whom inquiries were directed Tuesday did not return calls.

Members of area cycling clubs have shared copies over the past week of protest letters to the Federal Communications Commission, to state and local prosecutors and to G105 sponsors. Several critics noted that G105 radio hosts have sparked controversy in the past with crude stunts.

"It's one thing to drive around with a naked man on the radio station's van," said Raleigh lawyer Kimberly Bryan. "To encourage citizens to harm cyclists, that has crossed a different line. It's irresponsible. It's not caustic, it's not banter, it's not funny."

David Smith , 38, a software developer at UNC-Chapel Hill, took it personally. His right forearm still bears the scar of an attack by an Orange County motorist who found Smith cycling down a rural road one afternoon in April 2001.

"How are people going to take this, what was mentioned on G105?" Smith asked. "Are people going to say, 'You know, I'm tired of these cyclists?' Is that situation going to exacerbate what happened to me, with somebody else coming down a back road?"

After running Smith off the road, the driver stopped, chased him down on foot and struck him with a hatchet, sending him into a ditch and over the handlebars of his wrecked bike. Marvin Glenn Manring of Orange County pleaded guilty in July 2001 to assault with a deadly weapon. He promised to enroll in an anger management program.

Staff writer Bruce Siceloff can be reached at 829-4527 or bsicelof@newsobserver.com.


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: bicycles; commuters; roadrage
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To: Lazamataz
"By law I have every right to be on the road"

The thing that astounds me is cyclist's complete reliance on "the law" to protect them from violating the laws the physics regarding mass and motion.

101 posted on 10/01/2003 7:45:12 AM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: Skooz
We are discussing cyclists who ride in front of traffic and slow everyone else down. If they don't slow down traffic, we have no problem.

I totally agree with this. I live on a really winding road in the western Chicago 'burbs. These people come out in DROVES in the spring/summer. They will ride in a group of at least 10 taking up the entire lane around a dangerous blind "S" curve that is only 15 or 20 miles an hour for cars.

We've also encountered them on Route 83 (busy highway) between Archer and 91st, also taking up an entire lane.

Then there was this time that my mom and I were driving down 83 and we thought some cyclists were holding up traffic and it turned out to be two white horse drawn carriages. One had chamber musicians in it and the other had a bunch of nuns waving to the cars. It was very strange.

102 posted on 10/01/2003 7:45:16 AM PDT by retrokitten (Welcome to the real world, hippy!- Homer Simpson)
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To: ArrogantBustard; Lazamataz
The main thing I have learned from this thread is that motorists are incipient murderers.

....zoom-zoom....

103 posted on 10/01/2003 7:45:21 AM PDT by mhking (Anyone who disagrees with me is mentally ill and should be shot.)
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To: Lazamataz; All
Angry people bump!

Reading this thread has been an eye-opener.

Sheesh! I've never felt like such a mellow sort(in comparison) in years!

Thanks everyone!
104 posted on 10/01/2003 7:45:28 AM PDT by headsonpikes (Spirit of '76 bttt!)
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To: RoughDobermann
They are the fittest and, arguably, the "best" atheletes in sport.

Then how'd that above-mentioned bicycle geek get run down by the hatchet-wielding redneck on foot?

105 posted on 10/01/2003 7:45:31 AM PDT by HIDEK6
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To: Hatteras
If bicyclists would ACT like a car then they'd be treated like one. But they only do that when convenient.
106 posted on 10/01/2003 7:45:47 AM PDT by Sloth ("I feel like I'm taking crazy pills!" -- Jacobim Mugatu, 'Zoolander')
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To: ArrogantBustard
The main thing I have learned from this thread is that motorists are incipient murderers.

Especially me.

MOVE B**** by Ludacris (2003)

Move b****, get out the way
Get out the way b****, get out the way
Move b****, get out the way
Get out the way b****, get out the way

OH NO! The fight's out
I'ma 'bout to punch yo...lights out
Get the F*** back, guard ya grill
There's somethin' wrong, we can't stay still
I've been drankin' and bustin' two
and I been thankin' of bustin' you
Upside ya motherf****' forehead
And if your friends jump in, they'll be mo' dead

I'm doin' a hundred on the highway
So if you do the speed limit, get the f*** outta my way
I'm D.U.I., hardly ever caught sober
and you about to get ran the f*** over

107 posted on 10/01/2003 7:45:58 AM PDT by Lazamataz (I am the extended middle finger in the fist of life.)
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To: mhking
bang bang
108 posted on 10/01/2003 7:46:01 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard
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To: Skip Ripley
"Look, I have nothing against you little spandex pansies if you're willing to keep your feather asses out of my lane. Being an athlete, I'm able to control my speed and accuratley judge the distance I have when I encounter slower moving traffic."

An athletic driver? Are you an athletic television watcher too? Thirty-five reps in the barcalounger, whew . . .
109 posted on 10/01/2003 7:46:24 AM PDT by atlaw
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To: IYAS9YAS
It's A Hand Grenade.

Consult the Book of Armaments!

110 posted on 10/01/2003 7:46:34 AM PDT by mhking (Anyone who disagrees with me is mentally ill and should be shot.)
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To: Servant of the 9
Cyclists are certainly the rudest, most arogant and uncivil of all athletes

Some cyclists are, no argument there. Just like some drivers are.

No other group of athletes consistently causes traffic jams disrupting thousands.

Those not obeying the traffic laws should not be on the roads.

otherwise bikes need to be made illegal on public streets, unless the rider can demonstrate an ability to accelerate with the traffic and keep up.

Present law disagrees with you.

111 posted on 10/01/2003 7:46:58 AM PDT by RoughDobermann (Nuke the site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.)
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To: Lazamataz
If the conceal carry people (of which I am one) stood around in the middle of a busy highway like some of these goober bicyclists do, I'd hope they would get run over.

Although, what the bikes are doing is legal. A person standing in the middle of the street is not legal (unless you condone running over cops directing traffic too). But, in your small mind that doesn't matter. Run over the bike becasue it's slowing down your self-importent life.

Feel free to go back to your hand-hand job now.

112 posted on 10/01/2003 7:47:10 AM PDT by 69ConvertibleFirebird (Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.)
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To: eauxgod
I like your fourth grade intellect.
113 posted on 10/01/2003 7:47:26 AM PDT by Lazamataz (I am the extended middle finger in the fist of life.)
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To: ironman
This is my point exactly. My beef isn't with cyclists per se and I probably should have qualified my remarks about what behavior I find objectionable. Everyone has a right to public areas. Cyclists, skaters, joggers and walkers are all entitled to the same courtesy. When I encounter slower traffic within my lane, I tell them that I'm on the left and passing. If oncoming traffic prevents a safe passage, I slow down until I can pass.

The majority of cyclists I encounter place the importance of getting their training in over the safety of others. I routinely encounter people who think it's ok to try and crowd me out of my lane so they can pass some mom and her kid without braking. Hell, most of them don't even have the courtesy to signal that they're passing them. I have taken a swipe at this type of ass**le before and will do so in the future.
114 posted on 10/01/2003 7:47:34 AM PDT by Skip Ripley
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To: Lazamataz
Laz,

when idoits on bicycles have to obtain a license, buy tags and pay insurance I will acknowledge their right to use the roadway that those who have jumped all those hurdles have. They paid for the road and its maintainence not the bike pukes.
115 posted on 10/01/2003 7:47:40 AM PDT by FRMAG
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To: Rebelbase
The thing that astounds me is cyclist's complete reliance on "the law" to protect them from violating the laws the physics regarding mass and motion.

As a driver you rely on the "law" to protect you from the laws of physics regarding mass and motion. Or do they not apply when automobiles crash into each other?

116 posted on 10/01/2003 7:48:18 AM PDT by olorin
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To: Lazamataz
Don't worry, Laz, the nice men will be along to retrieve you soon ... They've a special canvas jacket just for you. I'm sure you'll just love the nice, shiny buckles.

;-}

117 posted on 10/01/2003 7:48:26 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard
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To: olorin
. . . while being dragged behind an SUV

Wow, I never pegged you for the kind of coward that would run down a bicyclist who had done nothing to you.

If a bicyclist can't accelerate and keep up with traffic, he is doing something to me.
At the least he needs 3 feet of 1/2" galvanised pipe tossed into his front spokes.

So9

118 posted on 10/01/2003 7:48:48 AM PDT by Servant of the 9 (A Goldwater Republican)
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To: RoughDobermann
"If the cyclist(s) is/are as far right as possible, there is no reason they would be slowing down traffic. Do you agree?"

Personally, I agree with that if the road is wide enough. However, in rush hour traffic on my commute there are very few roads where bicycles can cohabitate with vehicles in a safe manner so a bicycle traveling at less than half the speed limit creates a problem with drivers trying to safely pass.

My personal gripe is that bicyclists know this is a problem and know that they have caused these back ups yet when the traffic light turns red they insist on cutting to the front of the line so all those cars have to pass them again. It is these a-holes that deserve any predicament they may have found themselves in.

Unfortunately, since I have seen maybe two bicyclist actually stop in line for a red light in over 26 years of driving, this would include virtually all spandex-clad road kill candidates.

119 posted on 10/01/2003 7:49:10 AM PDT by Hatteras (Some mornings, it's just not worth chewing through the leather straps...)
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To: Skip Ripley
This is the most arrogant comment I've seen on FR in a long time.

Now, for the rest of the story.

I've witnessed up close and personal two crashes on my local multi use trail. Both were head on collisions between bike and roller blader. In both instances, the oh so wonderful roller blader, taking complete leave of their senses skated directly into the path of the oncoming bike. Rollerbladers use up the entire trail, are generally riding and chatting 3-4 wide (or in your case, one wide is just as bad. I can do sarcasm too!) and have absolutely no situational awareness or care for other users of the trail. It's often significantly safer to ride a bike on the road.
120 posted on 10/01/2003 7:49:15 AM PDT by cyclotic (Forget United Fraud (way) donate directly to your local Boy Scout Council.)
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