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'Free staters' pick New Hampshire to liberate for sex, guns and drugs
Guardian ^ | October 1, 2003 | Joanna Walters

Posted on 09/30/2003 7:24:17 PM PDT by Dan Evans

A libertarian movement promoting "minimalist government", the free market, drugs, prostitution and gun ownership plans to infiltrate New Hampshire to create a breakaway American regime, its leaders will announce today. The Free State Project, which has supporters in the UK and worldwide, will reveal today at a meeting in New York that its members have voted for the small but highly-symbolic north-eastern state as its target to win power.

Project chiefs will now try to persuade 20,000 people to move to New Hampshire and sway the electorate towards blocking federal "nanny" laws and social restrictions.

Jason Sorens, a lecturer in political science at Yale University and president of the project, said he wants to create an "autocratic territory" and the Free State Project will follow the examples of the Mormons in Utah, the French separatists in Quebec, Canada, and the conservative Amish religious communities.

Political sceptics have dismissed the project as the fringe cult fantasies of a disorganised shower of anarchists and internet geeks.

But Professor Sorens claims membership is soaring as people become angry over increasing restrictions on personal freedom, government surveillance of private individuals and greater state power in the justice system.

Membership of the Free State Project rocketed after an article in Playboy this year.

"I think that was a good place to find people who are socially tolerant and wary of government regulation over private behaviour," Prof Sorens said yesterday.

The FSP argues that civil government should exist only to protect life, liberty, and property. Individuals are free to do as they please, provided it does not harm others.

In a "Free State", that would translate as a green light for casinos, brothels, cocaine farms and gun supermarkets. Leaders would also do away with seatbelt laws, limits on gay marriage and most taxes.

"The classical liberal philosophy has a long and respectable pedigree. We see ourselves as a kind of chamber of commerce, promoting the state as somewhere where people will come and live freely and do business," he said.

Schools and hospitals would be entirely privatised. Prof Sorens sees new New Hampshire as having economic parallels with Singapore and Hong Kong, and social parallels to the tolerant Netherlands.

New Hampshire's state motto is already "Live free or die".

A ballot last week had members choosing from a shortlist of 10 states, each chosen on the basis that the FSP had calculated the populations were low enough and federal influence weak enough that moving 20,000 members there would give enough leverage to sway the state legislature.

Wyoming came second in the ballot. Other states on the list included Alaska, Idaho, Montana, Vermont and the Dakotas.

Members must agree to move to the chosen state.

But the New Hampshire Democratic chairwoman, Kathy Sullivan, said she considered the project "sort of a very fringe group that can best be described as anarchists".

A British member, Matthew Hurry, a 24-year-old computer technician from Brighton, was already preparing to move to the chosen state.

"It's one of the few good ideas I've seen actually put into practice with a good chance of success. Freedom is important for people, and the western world is severely lacking in it," he said.

But Francis Tyers, a 20-year-old University of Wales student, who studies in Aberystwyth but is currently on placement with the computer giant Hewlett Packard in Ireland, said Alaska would have been his first choice. "I specified on my membership form that I would move when they had legalised the cultivation of marijuana. I'm hoping that this will be one of the first things on their agenda. And secession from the United States would be great," he said.

It is this kind of radical idea that Prof Sorens emphasises is not the FSP's main thrust. "We have no wish to alienate the people of New Hampshire. We want to win them over," he said.

James Maynard, one of 150 project members who already live in New Hampshire, is currently campaigning as a Libertarian to try to win a council seat in the Keene city elections in November.

"The FSP is a mix of common sense ideas and "thinking out of the box". Within the framework of a real-life state and local politics, a group will not be afraid to try new things and take lessons from the business world to bring New Hampshire a smaller, less expensive, more accountable government," he said.

Project members are mostly men and in their 20s and 30s. Many own small businesses and half of them have a university degree, with 18% possessing doctorates and 40% earning more than £40,000 a year.


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: New Hampshire
KEYWORDS: freestateproject; fsp; libertarianfsp; nh; porcupines; sorens; wodlist
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Project members are mostly men and in their 20s and 30s. Many own small businesses and half of them have a university degree, with 18% possessing doctorates and 40% earning more than £40,000 a year.

But it's all about sex, drugs and guns. Right.

1 posted on 09/30/2003 7:24:21 PM PDT by Dan Evans
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To: Dan Evans
Haven't we seen this before?
2 posted on 09/30/2003 7:30:52 PM PDT by visualops (HAM AND EGGS: a day's work for a chicken; a lifetime commitment for a pig.)
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To: visualops
No, I don't think so.

The Guardian seems to think they have an inside track on the election results.
3 posted on 09/30/2003 7:37:43 PM PDT by Dan Evans
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To: Dan Evans
When I first read about FSP, it sounded like a wonderful proposal to return to the original intent for life under the U.S. Constitution.

You're right, it's degenerated already into sex and drugs. But then the young Republic was surely exposed to brothels and alcohol. But the culture of bars, inns and saloons was quite different from one of opium dens.
4 posted on 09/30/2003 7:38:26 PM PDT by Hostage
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To: Dan Evans
Other states on the list included Alaska

It is well they chose New Hampshire. Good luck to them, they'll need it.

5 posted on 09/30/2003 7:39:37 PM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the Law of the Excluded Middle)
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To: Dan Evans
"I specified on my membership form that I would move when they had legalised the cultivation of marijuana. I'm hoping that this will be one of the first things on their agenda..."

Ok, whichever one of you libertarian Freepers who is quoted here please identify yourself.

6 posted on 09/30/2003 7:39:45 PM PDT by gg188
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To: Dan Evans
Best Wishes to the True Americans in our society.

7 posted on 09/30/2003 7:54:16 PM PDT by LaraCroft (Oct. 7 - Vote Arnold or Be Responsible for BustaMecHA being elected.)
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To: RightWhale
I'm wondering if the Guardian does know if New Hampshire was chosen. Wyoming and New Hampshire were the major contenders. They may have prepared two articles so they can release the correct one tomorrow morning.
8 posted on 09/30/2003 7:55:10 PM PDT by Dan Evans
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To: Dan Evans
At the local Dennys, there was to be a meeting of all the people who were gonna move. Half the people refused to attend because the meeting was statist and the other half were to stoned to make it.
9 posted on 09/30/2003 7:59:24 PM PDT by Drango (In splitting the Republican vote, McClintock is the new SoreLoserman.)
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To: Hostage
I can't believe that a lot of people are going to move to another state just so they can smoke dope. If they wanted to do that, they could just move to San Fransisco -- it has a better climate. The median income seems to be around $60,000 so they can't all be dopers.
10 posted on 09/30/2003 7:59:46 PM PDT by Dan Evans
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To: visualops
Continually and it isn't going to work in New Hampshire. LOL
11 posted on 09/30/2003 8:02:15 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: Dan Evans
You're wasting your time talking sense to these people.

Far too many freepers don't even tak about freedom anymore, they're yearning for some sort of government control. The idea of liberty scares most freepers just as bad as it scares liberals. Then there's the percentage that will actually mock attempts to find or regain freedom.

Can you believe that? Here on FR there are posters who mock those seeking greater liberty. They are too stupid to be ashamed of themselves.

12 posted on 09/30/2003 8:12:13 PM PDT by Eagle Eye (There ought to be a law against excessive legislation.)
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To: visualops
Jason Sorens said over on the FSP forums that this article is "wrong" and he has contacted the Guardian editors. I'm sure the characterization of the project is wrong, I know enough people who are part of it and none are motivated primarily by a desire to use drugs legally. I don't think he is either confirming or denying that NH has been chosen. Well know in a few hours one way or another. If it's NOT N.H. one news source has a lot of egg on their face.
13 posted on 09/30/2003 8:14:29 PM PDT by Jack Black
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To: Dan Evans
'Membership of the Free State Project rocketed after an article in Playboy this year'

The press never ceases to amaze me.
14 posted on 09/30/2003 8:17:59 PM PDT by Bogey78O (The Clinton's have pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured/killed -Peach)
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To: Eagle Eye
Here on FR there are posters who mock those seeking greater liberty. They are too stupid to be ashamed of themselves.

Well, some of the FSP advocates--on and off Free Republic--haven't helped any.

Bottom line: the FSP concept has some issues that have not been addressed, that can adversely impact the chances of success.

The reaction of longtime residents to a bunch of outsiders showing up and throwing their weight around in the political arena is one area that hasn't been examined at all. If it isn't handled with a lot of skill, the newcomers may discover that the pre-existing residents will oppose them out of sheer spite.

15 posted on 09/30/2003 8:22:27 PM PDT by Poohbah ("[Expletive deleted] 'em if they can't take a joke!" -- Major Vic Deakins, USAF)
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To: Jack Black
They cited Playboy as a main reason why the group is successful. That should have been the first red flag. Whenever they take one event that is just one of many equal events and they make that into the crux, then you know where the editor stands.
16 posted on 09/30/2003 8:22:51 PM PDT by Bogey78O (The Clinton's have pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured/killed -Peach)
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To: Jack Black
If it's NOT N.H. one news source has a lot of egg on their face.

Not that they actually CARE about that. (c8

17 posted on 09/30/2003 8:23:13 PM PDT by Poohbah ("[Expletive deleted] 'em if they can't take a joke!" -- Major Vic Deakins, USAF)
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To: Bogey78O
It would be really funny if, say, Montana were chosen. Oops. Kinda like declaring Gore president at 8:00 ... oh, wait, they did that too, didn't they.
18 posted on 09/30/2003 8:23:24 PM PDT by Jack Black
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To: Jack Black
Wyoming is my bet, simply because of population. 20,000 people--assuming that there's a lot of diplomacy--can have a HUGH impact on the Wyoming political landscape Montana is the 49th state in population, but it's MUCH larger than Wyoming.
19 posted on 09/30/2003 8:26:02 PM PDT by Poohbah ("[Expletive deleted] 'em if they can't take a joke!" -- Major Vic Deakins, USAF)
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To: Eagle Eye
I don't understand why there isn't more interest in this. I mean hundreds of Californians are packing up and leaving the state because of a runaway government. Why move twice?
20 posted on 09/30/2003 8:26:22 PM PDT by Dan Evans
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