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Pedophiles And Homosexual Activists Push For Total Sexual Liberation
Traditional Values Coalition ^ | September 28,2003 @ 15:21:07 CDT | Traditional Values Coalition

Posted on 09/30/2003 3:43:20 PM PDT by Vindiciae Contra TyrannoSCOTUS

In August, 2003, the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) filed a lawsuit against the state of Kansas over the state's criminal sodomy law involving children. The ACLU is defending Matthew Limon, a homosexual who committed sodomy against a 14-year-old boy in 2000. At the time of his crime, Simon was 18 years old. The ACLU is claiming that Limon's conviction is unconstitutionally discriminatory because the penalties for sodomy with a minor are different than for heterosexual sex with a minor.

Kansas Attorney General Phill KIine says the fairness of Limon's sentence should be a state legislative issue, not a constitutional one. According to Kline, "If the ACLU wins in the thrust of their arguments, it means the state has no right to say that it is illegal for an adult to have sex with a 13-year-old child." Kline also fears that an ACLU victory will make it difficult for the state to enforce laws against polygamy, incest, bestiality, and other sexual perversions.

The effort to abolish "age of consent" laws has been a long-time goal of homosexual activists. The 1972 Gay Rights Platform, for example, called for the abolition of all laws prohibiting sex with children. The platform demands: "Repeal of all laws governing the age of sexual consent."

In September, 1995, three homosexual activists published an essay entitled, "The State Of Gay Liberation" in Guide, a homosexual publication. The essay was authored by North American Man Boy Love Association (NAMBLA) co-founder David Thorstad, University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign Professor Richard D. Mohr, and San Francisco journalist Bruce Mirken.

Thorstad, of course, is a life-long pederast and homosexual activist who clearly describes the important linkage between homosexuality and pedophilia. In a speech given before a homosexual group in Mexico in 1998, Thorstad said: "Pederasty is the main form that male homosexuality has acquired throughout Western civilization-and not only in the West! Pederasty is inseparable from the high points of Western culture-ancient Greece and the Renaissance." (David Thorstad, "Pederasty And Homosexuality," NAMBLA web site)

Fellow author Professor Richard Mohr, is a homosexual activist who is an advocate for same-sex marriage and has said he hopes that homosexual marriage will help define "monogamy" out of marriage altogether. (Stanley Kurtz, "Beyond Gay Marriage," The Weekly Standard, Aug. 4-11, 2003)

Bruce Mirken is a homosexual and San Francisco journalist who was arrested in 1998 for attempting to have sex with a 13-year-old boy he had contacted through the Internet. When he entered a Sacramento park to sodomize the boy, he was met by police who had been tracking his activities on the Internet. The charges were eventually dropped against him on a technicality.

Sexual Liberation For Children
Thorstad and Professor Mohr want sexual liberation for children and Mirken believes that AIDS activism is what will help perpetuate and strengthen the homosexual movement.

According to David Thorstad, in "The State Of Gay Liberation," homosexuals must get back to a "radical vision of sexual freedom for all. We need to reaffirm our place in the great variety of same-sex behaviors that exist-have always existed-in human societies. We dare not allow our homosexual gift to be alienated from us by the limited vision, stifling political correctness, and erotophobic provincialism." In short, homosexuals should openly support the promotion of adult/child sex!

Professor Mohr argues that the use of "gay youth" is a key to gaining political and cultural victories in the U.S. He writes: "...these brave youth are key to culture's change on gay issues. Thanks to them, increasingly people know someone for whom being gay is an issue. Thanks to them the gay movement is achieving critical mass." Bruce Mirken claims that radical AIDS activism is what will save the homosexual movement from decline.

The effort to push adult/child sex isn't limited to these three homosexual activists. It is part of the overall homosexual movement. As author Mary Eberstadt wrote in "Pedophilia Chic: Reconsidered" in The Weekly Standard, (Jan. 1, 2001): "The reason why the public is being urged to reconsider boy pedophilia is that this 'question,' settled though it may be in the opinions and laws of the rest of the country, is demonstrably not yet settled within certain parts of the gay rights movement." Eberstadt notes that as the homosexual movement becomes more mainstream, this "question" about adult/child sex will become more prominent. Homosexuals who desire sex with children will do exactly what the ACLU is doing in Kansas: Destroy all laws banning sex between adults and children.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events; US: Kansas
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The Child Molestation Research and Prevention Institute also has some compelling information on the high rate of same-sex molestations in the United States. Read what North American Man-Boy Love Association leader David Thorstad says about the relationship between pedophilia and homosexuality: Pederasty and Homosexuality


1 posted on 09/30/2003 3:43:20 PM PDT by Vindiciae Contra TyrannoSCOTUS
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To: Vindiciae Contra TyrannoSCOTUS
The Anti-Christian Lawyers Union up to their old tricks again I see.
2 posted on 09/30/2003 3:46:51 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: Vindiciae Contra TyrannoSCOTUS
INTREP - SODOMITE ALERT
3 posted on 09/30/2003 3:50:44 PM PDT by LiteKeeper
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There are those posters on here that keep saying that this would one day happen.

I guess it is ONE DAY.

4 posted on 09/30/2003 3:51:57 PM PDT by UCANSEE2
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To: Vindiciae Contra TyrannoSCOTUS
Child molesters should be executed.
5 posted on 09/30/2003 4:38:32 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative (Do not remove this tag under penalty of law.)
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To: Vindiciae Contra TyrannoSCOTUS
I'm a little confused. The ACLU is arguing that the sentence is unfair because it would have been different had one of the two involved been female. I don't see anything in their argument specifically against age of consent in general.
6 posted on 09/30/2003 4:39:42 PM PDT by Dimensio (Sometimes I doubt your committment to Sparkle Motion!)
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To: Paleo Conservative
Careful, you'll be accused of gay bashing.
7 posted on 09/30/2003 4:43:41 PM PDT by Polycarp (Guns don’t kill people, abortion clinics kills people)
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To: Vindiciae Contra TyrannoSCOTUS; drstevej; .45MAN; AAABEST; AKA Elena; al_c; american colleen; ...
The ACLU is defending Matthew Limon, a homosexual who committed sodomy against a 14-year-old boy in 2000. At the time of his crime, Simon was 18 years old. The ACLU is claiming that Limon's conviction is unconstitutionally discriminatory because the penalties for sodomy with a minor are different than for heterosexual sex with a minor.

In a speech given before a homosexual group in Mexico in 1998, Thorstad said: "Pederasty is the main form that male homosexuality has acquired throughout Western civilization-and not only in the West! Pederasty is inseparable from the high points of Western culture-ancient Greece and the Renaissance." (David Thorstad, "Pederasty And Homosexuality," NAMBLA web site)

"The reason why the public is being urged to reconsider boy pedophilia is that this 'question,' settled though it may be in the opinions and laws of the rest of the country, is demonstrably not yet settled within certain parts of the gay rights movement." Eberstadt notes that as the homosexual movement becomes more mainstream, this "question" about adult/child sex will become more prominent. Homosexuals who desire sex with children will do exactly what the ACLU is doing in Kansas: Destroy all laws banning sex between adults and children.

They can and will do this, but any description of WHAT THEY DO will be censored, in the lamestream media as well as this forum.

No wonder folks are apathetic. No one will tell them or let them be told WHAT HOMOSEXUALITY REALLY IS! And homosexuality really IS about abuse of minors, in addition to [censored].

God help us.

8 posted on 09/30/2003 4:50:46 PM PDT by Polycarp (Guns don’t kill people, abortion clinics kills people)
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To: Vindiciae Contra TyrannoSCOTUS
I suppose we should not be surprised that the Godless communists who run ACLU are supporters of pedophilia.
9 posted on 09/30/2003 4:58:37 PM PDT by reborn22
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To: Polycarp
bump
10 posted on 09/30/2003 5:00:44 PM PDT by sitetest
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To: Vindiciae Contra TyrannoSCOTUS
They already have it.
Read the Supreme Court's Texas sodomy decision.
11 posted on 09/30/2003 5:31:18 PM PDT by sport
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To: Vindiciae Contra TyrannoSCOTUS
GLSEN wants to recruit your children to practice homosexual sex.

The ACLU defended the NAZI march on skoki because their leader was a homsexual (who was later arrested and convicted on pedophilia charges)

The APA wants to decriminalize sex with children. They tried once but the PR fiasco made them reluctantly reverse their point of view. The current DSM is becoming useless PC hypocracy useful only for courtroom junk science.

homosexuality=child molestation.
12 posted on 09/30/2003 5:34:40 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (Vote!)
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To: Polycarp
Folk who have followed and fought the SODOMITE AGENDA for years, claim that the moral battle is lost and that they can only be resisted by the MEDICAL CONSEQUENCES.
13 posted on 09/30/2003 5:36:50 PM PDT by Vindiciae Contra TyrannoSCOTUS
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These diseases are acquired directly through the sexual behavior homosexual activists are asking Americans to legally endorse and protect. Yet, as professor Jerome Lejeune of Descartes University, Paris, says of AIDS: "Only God can truly pardon the one who violates His laws; man pardons at times; Nature never pardons at all: She is not a person." The brutal consequences of attempting to break the natural law are not bigoted or hateful, nor are those here who try to point out the dangers and simple truths.
14 posted on 09/30/2003 5:45:47 PM PDT by Polycarp (Guns don’t kill people, abortion clinics kills people)
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To: Vindiciae Contra TyrannoSCOTUS
SHAME ON THE ACLU!
15 posted on 09/30/2003 5:53:53 PM PDT by DoctorMichael (Thats my story, and I'm sticking to it.)
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To: Vindiciae Contra TyrannoSCOTUS
The ACLU is claiming that Limon's conviction is unconstitutionally discriminatory because the penalties for sodomy with a minor are different than for heterosexual sex with a minor.

Why should the penalties be different? Any kind of sex with a minor should carry stringent penalties, regardless of whether the victim is male or female.

16 posted on 09/30/2003 6:00:18 PM PDT by wai-ming
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To: Vindiciae Contra TyrannoSCOTUS
If these laws are nullified, they'll have to resurrect Geoghan.
17 posted on 09/30/2003 6:02:19 PM PDT by DLfromthedesert
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To: Vindiciae Contra TyrannoSCOTUS
So, according to these degenerates it's OK to ---- children?

I think not.

18 posted on 09/30/2003 6:08:03 PM PDT by LibKill (Father Darwin has a sense of humor but no mercy whatsoever.)
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Folk who have followed and fought the SODOMITE AGENDA for years, claim that the moral battle is lost and that they can only be resisted by the MEDICAL CONSEQUENCES.

Nobody wants to hear about it, though...until they have to $$$pay$$$ for it.
19 posted on 09/30/2003 8:38:16 PM PDT by Desdemona (Kempis' Imitation of Christ online! http://www.leaderu.com/cyber/books/imitation/imitation.html)
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To: Vindiciae Contra TyrannoSCOTUS
Membership in the American Psychiatric Association is apparently a mental illness.
20 posted on 09/30/2003 8:44:17 PM PDT by PeoplesRepublicOfWashington
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