[Sir Gawain]

Destroy the teacher's arguments.

[Ex-Dem]

Unless you would be willing to switch into the engineering department, then yes, you can expect more of the same.

[Cathryn Crawford]

Any comments?

[Blood of Tyrants]

To answer your question, yes. Students will not become teachers until they have been properly indoctrinated and can recite the 10 planks of communism from memory in any order.

[Psycho_Bunny]

I would suggest purchasing an assortment of "IYW" and "CONDI R0x0RZ YER B0x0RZ!" shirts and pins and wearing them on a regular basis.

[Siouxz]

I don't know about education classes, but I started back to school this year after a 17-year absence from the classroom. I HAVE to take an American Literature class. Now, I knew the professor was liberal, just by the way he talked and the things he assigned us to read. I just found out last night that he is the president of the Keystone (PA) Chapter of the ACLU!!!

I much prefer my anatomy and physiology and chemistry classes, which require too much actual teaching of facts, and no time left for the professor to wax poetic on the evils of George W. Bush and the evil white man.

[Arrowhead1952]

I am taking my first and only education class this semester at the University of Texas.

Enough said. UT is one of the most liberal universities in the US.

[petitfour]

I didn't go to UTexas, but the College of Ed courses I took were not all that liberal. I took EdPsych, which is about like any basic psych course. I took Mainstreaming, which was probably a liberal leaning course because the whole concept is liberal, but the course was for preparing teachers for the reality that they could possibly be teaching children who are learning disabled, emotionally conflicted, etc. Then I took some courses that put future teachers in the classroom and gave them some basic experience, shy of student teaching. I thought the courses were pretty much a waste of time. They could have all been combined into ONE course. I began taking courses from Forrest McDonald (a UTexas grad), and he had (has)such disdain for the College of Education. I loved him so much that I changed my major from Education to History and took 7 courses from him. I can imagine how liberals would have a grand time indoctrinating future teachers. Fortunately, I did not have such an experience.

[zook]

They're not all like this. But UT has a rep as leaning left. There's a lot of ideological diversity in the field of education, but you have to dig to find quality ideas. 95% of education literature and research is either propaganda or worthless.

[theDentist]

Keep asking why? why? why? and asking for her sources for statistics, facts, or anything else. Tell her you learned from the Clintons to clarify to parse everything.

[GovernmentShrinker]

All that I've ever heard of are this bad. Have fun, take thorough notes, and write a whopper of an expose for the school newspaper after it's over.

I had a college friend who went on to get a Ph.D. in "Education" at Stanford. We had dinner one night when she was in NYC doing her field work in the NYC public schools, developing a new teacher training program. She had completely lost her mind. She said to me with a perfectly straight face "Our philosophy is that there are no bad teachers; all teachers have strengths, and our program is designed to bring out those strengths".

[marron]

I honestly think that Education curriculum should be taken in graduate school only, after the future teacher has taken a degree in some solid course of study.

Teachers who studied "Education" in lieu of getting an education is perhaps part of how we got to where we are.

[Prospero]

Yes, Cathryn, you can expect more of the same.

The lost secret can be found with an understanding of philosophies of education.

There are many, including 'experimentalism,' of which so-called 'Progressive Education' is but one species.

Progressive Education, propounded by John Dewey a century ago, dominates the education departments of every teaching institution in the United States. You are not looking for a teaching degree, but if you were, you would have to buy this one variety of one philosophy of education to get a teaching degree.

It didn't happen overnight, but that's the demon that lies at the heart of our sorry education system.

It allows for no alternative, at it is even alien to the tenses at the heart of the English language.

If we began today, it would take thirty years to displace.

[Texas_Jarhead]

Howdy,

I've read some of your stuff (on TownHall maybe) and just wanted to say that I enjoy your work. Keep it up.

FReegards

[tallhappy]

I think so yes.

I think this is the biggest contributer to the problems we face.

This is why vouchers are so important now because this trend in "education" isn't going to end.

[Diva Betsy Ross]

Yes. All education classes are liberal. It is the agenda of the NEA. IF you need fuel for your arguments look on their web site for the most outrageous load of cr@p you will ever see. Ask the homeschoolers here what they think of "education" ,umm.... I mean indoctranation classes offered by universities. BTW, Why do you have to take an education class at all?

[DeFault User]

I took an education course once and soon determined I would never take another one. The only worthwhile thing I learned was that 'you don't give homework as punishment'. Three wasted semester hours.

[jmc813]

Is it at least a cool liberal who will let you argue your point without your grades suffering as a result?

[Desparado]

If you really want to get an eyeful of what's going on in our Universities, go to the site, noindoctrination.org. You will be shocked at the listings there from all over the country by students complaining about biased classes and crazy leftist professors in top Universities from around the US.

[only1percent]

It's not so much that schools of education are liberal, but that their premise is a little mistated. The premise is not education, but social work -- and the challenge is not "how do we get the best possible education," but "how do we educate the children of degenerates?"

Children of responsible parents will, by and large, end up well educated because their parents will demand it and make the free market choices (private school, home school, moving to good public school districts, etc.) necessary to make it happen.

Children of degenerates have only the state to rely upon. Vouchers probably hurt them, because they enable the escape of any responsible parents too poor to have other alternatives.