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History Repeated? (Cavuto)
FOX News ^
| 09/24/03
| Neil Cavuto
Posted on 09/25/2003 6:07:00 AM PDT by abnegation
Edited on 04/22/2004 12:37:16 AM PDT by Jim Robinson.
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He never succeeded at winning over his critics. Some called him bombastic, others a war-monger.
He warned about terrorism, but few listened.
He warned about a foreign ogre, but few seemed to care.
He talked of not confronting the enemy and about the dangers of kowtowing to the enemy. An enemy that would sooner rip out your heart than let you even think he had one of his own.
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Like I said: It's the voters, stupid.
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posted on
09/25/2003 6:09:03 AM PDT
by
Consort
To: The Californian; Terpfen; Sparta; iceskater; mass55th; alnick; buzzyboop; MoJo2001; lysie; vandy; ..
Cavuto ping!
Sorry there have been no Cavuto posts from me for awhile. I've not been able to post due to a puppy with a broken leg, but she will all better and I am back.
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posted on
09/25/2003 6:09:32 AM PDT
by
abnegation
(A closed mouth gathers no feet.)
To: abnegation
Oh, thanks so much for the Cavuto post! He's been one of my favorites for some time now.
P.S. Love your tagline. ;-D
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posted on
09/25/2003 6:11:36 AM PDT
by
Judith Anne
(Cyanide, mercury, and botulinum toxin are medically and industrially useful friends to mankind.)
To: Consort
It's the voters, stupid.History will also show that as soon as Hitler was defeated the voters kicked his arse out in favor of socialism.
To: abnegation
Comparing the Iraq war to WW2 is just plain ridiculous.
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posted on
09/25/2003 6:12:55 AM PDT
by
alpowolf
To: abnegation
Bush is nowhere near to becoming abandoned by his followers.
The American people are waking up to the Media's propaganda. They know there is another side, another perspective that is supportive of the President. They are also aware that the threat has not been extinguished. The American people are now awake and vigilant.
Cavuto got it wrong this time because he cannot help but be influenced from time to time by New York journalistic circles.
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posted on
09/25/2003 6:13:57 AM PDT
by
Hostage
To: alpowolf
What about comparing WWII to the war on terror? Is that ridiculous?
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posted on
09/25/2003 6:14:59 AM PDT
by
manna
To: Semper Paratus
...as soon as Hitler was defeated the voters kicked his arse out in favor of socialism.The same thing happened here in '92. After Saddam was defeated, the voters kicked Bush 41 out in favor of socialism.
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posted on
09/25/2003 6:17:25 AM PDT
by
Consort
To: abnegation
The man who originally took on terror, would later be thrown out of office by the very people who rallied around him because of terror.
No, I'm not talking about a president named Bush. I'm talking about a prime minister named Winston Churchill. Winston Churchill was tossed out of office by the Brits shortly after WWII ended ... 1947 if my memory serves me correctly. However, it wasn't many years later (in the mid- 50's) when the Brits began to recognize him for the great wartime leader he was and re-elected him Prime Minister. Churchill got a well deserved second chance, Bush won't.
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posted on
09/25/2003 6:19:21 AM PDT
by
BluH2o
To: manna
Completely. It's a different war requiring a different response. Fighting it as though it were WW2 will guarantee that we will lose.
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posted on
09/25/2003 6:22:55 AM PDT
by
alpowolf
To: alpowolf
I'm not referring to the strategy and tactics but to the size and scope of the war on terror. In that way, I believe it can be compared to WWII.
Iraq is just one theater of operations, not the entire war. I think Cavuto may have been referring to the entire war on terror not, as you seem to be implying, just the battle in Iraq.
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posted on
09/25/2003 6:26:48 AM PDT
by
manna
To: abnegation
Difference is, in this case the ogre had already attacked when Bush rallied a response--and the al Quaeda threat is not susceptible to final conquest in 3 years. It won't go with a bang but with a whimper. Even after Afghanistan and Iraq, the Axis of Evil is still in business.
It's like having an election after the fall of Italy but with the Nazis and the Japanese still very much in business.
It's not like political parties never changed any other positions, of course--
for example Jack Kemp's reversal of Republican policy from "balanced budget uber alles" to "tax rates must be reduced for the health of the economy"
--but has anyone else noticed that the Democratic Party has switched from internationalism to pacifism and de facto isolationism?
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posted on
09/25/2003 6:27:44 AM PDT
by
conservatism_IS_compassion
(The everyday blessings of God are great--they just don't make "good copy.")
To: abnegation; Hostage
Can you ping me to your Cavuto posts? Thanks for this posting, and I'm hoping your pup recovers soon from his broken leg.
Hostage, I sure hope you're right about the voters staying awake. One would think we had learned a long time ago that appeasement does not work.
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posted on
09/25/2003 6:28:49 AM PDT
by
baseballmom
(Baseball is life - the rest is just details)
To: manna
Those who fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it.
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posted on
09/25/2003 6:32:59 AM PDT
by
mathluv
To: Hostage
The American people are waking...Have you ever seen the movie, Ship of Fools?
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posted on
09/25/2003 6:40:37 AM PDT
by
Consort
To: abnegation
Funny he should say that.
I'm re-reading Churchill's History of World War II.
The first volume discusses, among other things, the Italian invasion and conquest of Abyssinia.
The parallels to the ineffectiveness of the League of Nations with respect to that situation to the ineffectiveness of the UN with respect to Iraq are nothing short of amazing.
Both bodies apparently studiously avoided taking any actions which could have possibly been effective in preventing each subsequent conflict.
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posted on
09/25/2003 6:44:34 AM PDT
by
George Smiley
(Is the RKBA still a right if you have to get the government's permission before you can exercise it?)
To: manna
The concept of a "War on Terror" is essentially flawed -- terror is a tactic, a technique. I'd really prefer if the administration would just come out and admit this is a war on islamic extremism/expansionism. But that would tick off our "allies" like the Saudis and Pakistanis.
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posted on
09/25/2003 6:44:46 AM PDT
by
LN2Campy
To: abnegation
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posted on
09/25/2003 6:55:54 AM PDT
by
putupon
(Hey, you see anything here? Me neither.)
To: manna
The realities of rebuilding after a war all but wiped out the glories of winning that war.That sounds like a reference to Iraq, to me. No matter. Use whatever words you want: size, scope, strategy, tactics. This is different.
Cavuto's attempt to liken Bush to Churchill, like the wrong and overused attempts to liken Saddam to Hitler, are simply emotional manipulation with no basis in fact.
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posted on
09/25/2003 6:59:18 AM PDT
by
alpowolf
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