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1 posted on 09/24/2003 7:32:16 AM PDT by areafiftyone
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He said it will also claim that Saddam Hussein mounted a huge programme to deceive and hinder the work of US weapons inspectors.

So either Saddam did have WMDs to hide, or Saddam was, in effect, framing himself for the crime of having WMDs. In either case, isn't it clear that Saddam is to blame for any WMD confusion?

2 posted on 09/24/2003 7:36:09 AM PDT by DWPittelli
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If you drop the editorializing,this is what I heard on Fox last night.
3 posted on 09/24/2003 7:37:52 AM PDT by MEG33
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I don't think we'll ever know, but if Saddam didn't have these weapons, how come he hindered the inspections? It's possible he was trying to protray the obtrussiveness of the US before the Arab world, or due to his insecurity, he felt that the inspections would reveal military (non WMD) secrets that would allow his enemies compromise his security and power...who knows? Unfortunately, the administration has not done a good job of portraying the reasons such as UN Security violations, human right violations. They were mentioned off and on, but somehow, WMD was the reason we went in...
9 posted on 09/24/2003 7:54:53 AM PDT by Maringa
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Every Iraqi scientist we have spoken to, many now living without fear of reprisals, said the program was shuttered in 91. The BBC here isn't telling anything new.

Saddam did want people to think he had a program still going though. Why? Machismo. Seriously.

He could not admit that he was terrified of the reprisals if he got caught with WMD, so he stopped the program, focused on domestically terrorizing his opponents, and tried to run a trick play.

Basically, think of a football game with a fake hand off, where everybody knows where the ball was handed to, but it really wasn't.

He lost his regime because he didn't want to lose face. He heard Powell quietly in Egypt saying in 2001, that they knew Saddam had disarmed. He kept playing coy. It was a suicidal game, and he lost. He had crap.

It would be like challenging somebody bigger, stronger to a fight, claiming you had a gun. There was no gun though. You thought that they wouldn't know for sure if there was a gun, and that would buy you time, as well as impress your friends. Oops.

It was a massive intelligence failure for us to not know that he was lying. Our big problem was the dissident crowd. They frankly lied their asses off to us. They wanted Saddam out, knew he shelved his program, and that presented a problem. If they told us honestly that Saddam was not making WMDs, it would mean that we wouldn't do anything. We were told what we wanted to hear. We had people in the CIA who were telling the admin exactly what I am saying. It is all bluster, Saddam is toothless. The admin rejected those opinions.

Saddam is evil, and he is gone, but he has gotten his revenge on the Bush family in a twisted way, by being disarmed of WMDs.

11 posted on 09/24/2003 8:05:37 AM PDT by dogbyte12
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Excuse me, but since I am not a scientist or chemist, I can't be quite sure.......BUT didn't we find WMD? I mean we've found all the elements for creating WMD, just not the finished product. Right? I mean if you take a + b + c + d and put them together they would make WMD. Right? Which would mean that we did not allow Hussein enough time to make more.
18 posted on 09/24/2003 8:27:57 AM PDT by beachn4fun (Wanna join the Ban the Burka Brigade? See Radix for details.)
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The source was Dr.Kelly via a seance at the BBC Headquarters.

President Bush did not seem aware of this article when he gave his speech at the UN and I am not second guessing anyone who has 140,000 inspectors on the ground. Nor should anyone who has common sense.

Strategery....it is easy to deal with Liberal Klingons.They Klingon to every tiny hope that bolsters their vacuous charges.
19 posted on 09/24/2003 8:31:59 AM PDT by ijcr (Age and treachery will always overcome youth and ability.)
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