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Gen. Shelton shocks Celebrity Forum, says he won't support Clark for president
Los Altos online ^ | 09/23/03

Posted on 09/24/2003 3:32:06 AM PDT by jaykay

Retired General H. Hugh Shelton, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff on 9/11, shared his recollection of that day and his views of the war against terrorism with the Foothill College Celebrity Forum audience at Flint Center, Sept. 11 and 12.

His review of that historic event and his 38 years in the military kept the audience's rapt attention throughout. But it was his answer to a question from the audience at the end that shocked his listeners.

"What do you think of General Wesley Clark and would you support him as a presidential candidate," was the question put to him by moderator Dick Henning, assuming that all military men stood in support of each other. General Shelton took a drink of water and Henning said, "I noticed you took a drink on that one!"

"That question makes me wish it were vodka," said Shelton. "I've known Wes for a long time. I will tell you the reason he came out of Europe early had to do with integrity and character issues, things that are very near and dear to my heart. I'm not going to say whether I'm a Republican or a Democrat. I'll just say Wes won't get my vote."

Shelton was on a 757 en route to Budapest for a conference when he learned that a plane had crashed into the World Trade Center. Knowing that New York had perfect weather and there were no computer problems, he determined that it was a terrorist attack and immediately turned the plane around.

Shelton's 38 years in the military included two years in Vietnam and service in the 173rd Airborne Brigade and Green Berets. In addition to having been an adviser to the president and a member of the National Security Council, he has been awarded the Congressional Gold Medal, the Purple Heart and six Distinguished Service Medals. He has been decorated by 15 foreign governments and knighted by Queen Elizabeth.

His 6-foot-6-inch military bearing and commanding presence at the Celebrity Forum belied his recent personal battle. Only months after his retirement, following 400 parachute jumps from 30,000 feet, the former special ops soldier fell from a ladder outside his home, landed with his head caught in a chain-link fence and was partially paralyzed from the neck down.

The doctor told Shelton he would never walk or use his hands again. Shelton said he checked the doctor's name tag for "God"; he didn't see it. Eighty-four days later he walked out on his own, and he is now close to 100 percent recovered. The unfortunate experience taught him an invaluable lesson -- "the importance of faith, family and friends when the chips are down."

Three days after Shelton took office as chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, his commitment to the integrity of the military was tested. When U.S. planes in the Iraq no-fly zone were attacked, a member of Congress suggested that perhaps "we" could fly a U-2 spy plane so low over Iraq that it could easily get hit. Then we'd have a reason "to kick Saddam out of Iraq." After Shelton responded that he would order that "just as soon as you are qualified to fly (it)," he was not asked again to compromise his office.

"Sometimes people in a position of power lose perspective on right and wrong," Shelton said.

The events of 9/11 were not a surprise to Shelton. He had been concerned because the United States offers a vulnerable target-rich environment. Two areas continue to worry him. First, a cyber-attack on air control, water, 911, financial or other nationwide systems could "bring us to our knees." Second, the use of weapons of mass destruction, even small amounts of sarin gas, anthrax germs, bio-attacks, continues to be a dangerous threat. Their deployment had been planned for the first World Trade Center bombing in 1993, but al-Qaeda ordered the attack before they were in place.

In order to deal with the ongoing danger, the United States must "continue to go after terrorists," he said. "Bush has maintained the pressure and earned kudos in spite of the criticism."


TOPICS: Front Page News; Politics/Elections; US: North Carolina
KEYWORDS: 2004; generalhughshelton; generalshelton; hughshelton; jcs; weasely; wesleyclark; wesleykanne
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To: AmericanInTokyo
Gen. Schwarzkopf delivered an address yesterday.

Is there a transcript available anywhere? Where was the speach?

81 posted on 09/24/2003 11:34:15 AM PDT by El Gato (Federal Judges can twist the Constitution into anything.. Or so they think.)
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To: OldCorps
Ah, Spring Butt Bingo! We played that game when I was in Artillery OBC and we presented a giant spring mounted as a trophy to the biggest spring butt in our class at graduation. The BG who commanded the FAS Brigade and the MG post commander (who showed up because one of his WP classmate's son was in our class) both roared with laughter at the presentation.

In law school, the same game was called "asshole bingo". It was always fun to be sitting in some dull class like secured transactions or administrative law, and hear a loud "Bingo" as an inane question was asked.

82 posted on 09/24/2003 11:37:54 AM PDT by CatoRenasci (Ceterum Censeo [Gallia][Germania][Arabia] Esse Delendam --- Select One or More as needed)
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To: cyncooper
Wowsers! This must have legs!
83 posted on 09/24/2003 11:41:07 AM PDT by Miss Marple
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To: jaykay
This will doom Clark's chances of any Republican votes. But the Democrats.....oh, they love this kind of stuff. It will only make them support him more.
84 posted on 09/24/2003 11:41:54 AM PDT by rs79bm
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To: LibWhacker
Interesting, but Shelton distinctly says that Clark was brought out of Europe early due to the character and integrity issues, which means it has something to do with his performance/behavior over there, IMO.
85 posted on 09/24/2003 11:42:04 AM PDT by cyncooper (I believe VP Cheney)
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To: prairiebreeze
Some big stories in here bump.
86 posted on 09/24/2003 11:44:42 AM PDT by Peach (The Clintons have pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: jaykay
BIG BUMP!
87 posted on 09/24/2003 11:46:51 AM PDT by Vets_Husband_and_Wife (CNN: Where " WE report what WE decide!!")
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To: redlipstick
Not sure if you saw these stunning remarks from Retired General H. Hugh Shelton:

"What do you think of General Wesley Clark and would you support him as a presidential candidate," was the question put to him by moderator Dick Henning, assuming that all military men stood in support of each other. General Shelton took a drink of water and Henning said, "I noticed you took a drink on that one!"

"That question makes me wish it were vodka," said Shelton. "I've known Wes for a long time. I will tell you the reason he came out of Europe early had to do with integrity and character issues, things that are very near and dear to my heart. I'm not going to say whether I'm a Republican or a Democrat. I'll just say Wes won't get my vote."

88 posted on 09/24/2003 11:47:22 AM PDT by cyncooper (I believe VP Cheney)
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To: LibWhacker
Although that is an excellent further indication of his character, I don't believe that was what General Shelton was talking about. He was home BEFORE he go the medal.

In fact, Clark received the very first of the newly minted medals during his retirement ceremony June 23, 2000, presided over by Army Chief of Staff Gen. Eric Shinseki.

89 posted on 09/24/2003 11:47:38 AM PDT by Miss Marple
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To: AmericanInTokyo
understood

Prairie
90 posted on 09/24/2003 11:48:21 AM PDT by prairiebreeze (I have dozens of great taglines in my attic. I just can't climb up to get them.)
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To: aristeides
He was probably talking about Kosovo. Clark was going public (to the media) about his disagreement with Sec. of Defense Cohen regarding ground troops. Cohen fired him.
91 posted on 09/24/2003 11:50:58 AM PDT by Vets_Husband_and_Wife (CNN: Where " WE report what WE decide!!")
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To: El Gato
Here is an overview of his speech yesterday. The (local) lib print media conveniently ignored that Hillary Bashing quote from Schwarzkopf yesterday--that had the biggest round of applause outside of his opening and closing standing ovations:

http://www.roanoke.com/roatimes/news/story155800.html

92 posted on 09/24/2003 11:54:43 AM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (Saddam, As Bad As He Was, Did Not Have Taepodong-2 Nuke ICBMs Capable Of Hitting The USA and Japan)
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To: Miss Marple
I was thinking he may have put himself in for it months ahead of time. There is usually some lead time for an award like this. That's complete speculation on my part, though.

I did think it was especially greasy of him to make sure he got the first one minted, lol!

93 posted on 09/24/2003 11:56:03 AM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: Destro


94 posted on 09/24/2003 12:01:41 PM PDT by Incorrigible
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To: cyncooper
amazing! Haven't heard a word about it on FOX, but MSNBC sometimes does have the faster track on stuff.

Prairie
95 posted on 09/24/2003 12:02:26 PM PDT by prairiebreeze (I have dozens of great taglines in my attic. I just can't climb up to get them.)
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To: prairiebreeze
Haven't heard a word about it on FOX

Well, they should get with it. I'll bet Brit Hume has it on his Special Report.

96 posted on 09/24/2003 12:07:33 PM PDT by cyncooper (I believe VP Cheney)
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To: Vets_Husband_and_Wife
I made a mistake and put the wrong quote in #13. Funk's quote is in #15. I think it's about Waco.
97 posted on 09/24/2003 12:11:23 PM PDT by aristeides
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To: cyncooper
Hannity mentioned this story on his radio show an hour or so ago.
98 posted on 09/24/2003 12:11:56 PM PDT by aristeides
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To: aristeides
Great!! I'm glad it is getting mentioned!! The more things about Clark are told.. the more people will KNOW him, the more they KNOW,.. the more they will dislike.

However,..I think perhaps Hitlery is banking on just that!!
99 posted on 09/24/2003 12:21:58 PM PDT by Vets_Husband_and_Wife (CNN: Where " WE report what WE decide!!")
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To: SwinneySwitch
Good point:

The fact that he's running as a demonrat is enough for me!

100 posted on 09/24/2003 12:33:12 PM PDT by GOPJ
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