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U.S. to Sharply Cut Number of High-Tech Work Visas
Reuters ^ | September 22, 2003 | Alan Elsner

Posted on 09/22/2003 12:14:29 PM PDT by AntiGuv

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The United States is about to cut the number of employment visas it offers to highly qualified foreign workers from 195,000 to 65,000, immigration experts said on Monday.

Unless Congress acts by the end of this month -- and there is little sign it will do so -- the change will automatically take effect on Oct. 1. Employers, especially technology companies, argue the move will hurt them and the economy.

The change will affect the number of H1-B visas that can be issued each fiscal year. The visas are mostly used to bring high-tech experts from Asia, especially from the Indian sub-continent, to work in the United States for up to three years.

"The fact that Congress doesn't seem anxious to act reflects the political climate, with a lack of jobs for Americans," said New York immigration lawyer Cyrus Mehta.

"The pressure to change the limit will build up again when the economy picks up."

The Senate Judiciary Committee held a hearing on the issue last week. Republican chairman Orrin Hatch of Utah noted that many U.S. high-tech workers are unemployed and the committee needed to find ways of helping them without hurting the country's ability to compete globally.

Vermont Democratic Sen. Patrick Leahy said: "Given the weakness of our current economy, and the rising unemployment we have experienced under President Bush's stewardship, many who supported the increase in 2000 now believe that 65,000 visas are sufficient."

But Patrick Duffy, Human Resources Attorney for Intel Corporation, said finding the best-educated engineering talent from around the world was critical to his company's future.

"We expect that we will continue to sponsor H-1B employees in the future for the simple reason that we cannot find enough U.S. workers with the advanced education, skills, and expertise we need," he said.

Elizabeth Dickson, director of immigration services for the Ingersoll-Rand Company, speaking on behalf of the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, said: "In the near-term, we simply must have access to foreign nationals. Many of them have been educated in the United States. By sending them home, we are at best sending them to our own foreign plant sites, and at worst to our competitors."

Immigration attorneys expect the new rules to set off a scramble by companies to fill their slots early before the ceiling is reached. How quickly that happens depends on the state of the economy, they said.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Business/Economy; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: visas
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To: AntiGuv
No worries for businesses wnting to hire foreigners. They are already moving overseas anyway.

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161 posted on 09/22/2003 4:12:17 PM PDT by Imal (The deadliest weapon is patience.)
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To: AntiGuv
They have to what are they going to do with all the illegals they are going to give educations too! You cant be here legaly and have a job .....But illegaly and you get a job, education ,welfare and social security and break the backs of naturals while your at it!

What a deal!

162 posted on 09/22/2003 4:12:41 PM PDT by ATOMIC_PUNK ("If guns kill people, where are mine hiding the bodies.")
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To: AntiGuv
Many of them have been educated in the United States. By sending them home, we are at best sending them to our own foreign plant sites, and at worst to our competitors."

Got news for you Liz. The reason that you can't find educated Americans is that you bumped them out of the universities to let in the foreign nationals.

A self fulfilling prophecy for which I have little sympathy. First you slit your wrists and then you camplain you're bleeding.

163 posted on 09/22/2003 4:25:08 PM PDT by Amerigomag
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To: AntiGuv
I thought there would be a lot more America haters on this thread.
164 posted on 09/22/2003 4:27:47 PM PDT by 4.1O dana super trac pak (Stop the open borders death cult)
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To: Jim Cane
Why incure ongoing costs when you can get free help with a one time cost upfront?"

It is called, giving a $hit about your enighbor.

165 posted on 09/22/2003 4:28:33 PM PDT by itsahoot (Article III Section 2 U.S. Constitution)
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To: itsahoot
Neighbor :{
166 posted on 09/22/2003 4:31:01 PM PDT by itsahoot (Article III Section 2 U.S. Constitution)
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To: TexasGunLover
I think we should have more h1-b's. These people are smart, work hard, pay taxes, committ almost no crime, don't do drugs and would make fine citizens.

The alternative is to ship them home and have the work outsourced to their home country.
167 posted on 09/22/2003 4:32:49 PM PDT by staytrue
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To: Amerigomag
The reason that you can't find educated Americans is that you bumped them out of the universities to let in the foreign nationals

I said I was going to ignore this thread but...The reason you can't find educated Americans is because the standard of education in the public schools here is poor as compared to overseas. Therefore, the average HS grad in the US has a harder time finding a place in the universities when competing with foriegn students. Also, universities make more money out of foriegn students' tuition than that of US citizens or residents. Combine all that with Affirmative action and quotas to be met, and badabing.

That said, I don't really agree with the statement that you can't find educated Americans. Too much of a generalization for me.

168 posted on 09/22/2003 4:33:44 PM PDT by trini
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To: AntiGuv
Still way too many, but it's a start. BUMP
169 posted on 09/22/2003 4:37:51 PM PDT by truthkeeper
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To: staytrue; TexasGunLover
I think we should have more h1-b's. These people are smart, work hard, pay taxes, committ almost no crime, don't do drugs and would make fine citizens.

Sorry, H1Bs do not pay income tax or social security, zero, zilch, nada. For employers, that gives them at least a 15% edge on US employees. Then when u factor in pensions, medical, etc. etc. --- no comparison

170 posted on 09/22/2003 4:52:20 PM PDT by doosee
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To: trini
The reason you can't find educated Americans is because the standard of education in the public schools here is poor as compared to overseas

First, programming is not rocket science. The average high school B student can be trained to write lines of code. What that student needs is a chance to get into the equally watered down state university system to be trained.

I'm from California and at present 6% of the UC population are foreign nationals which is at the expense of these "trainable" students.

171 posted on 09/22/2003 4:54:24 PM PDT by Amerigomag
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To: Yeti
I was on another thread recently, and there was a discussion in which an employer asserted that American workers are just spoiled. He justfied this by pointing out the difficulty he was having finding and keeping $8/hr workers at his business.

I always find that kind of thing quite funny ---- those kind of morale problems almost always mean poor quality top management. It's interesting how the CEOs and mediocre middle management will blame the guys at the bottom for poor employee morale ---- but the guys on the bottom aren't making the poor management decisions that affect morale.

172 posted on 09/22/2003 4:54:36 PM PDT by FITZ
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To: AntiGuv
Good news. It's a start!
173 posted on 09/22/2003 4:55:03 PM PDT by JimRic54
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To: Smogger
Nameless faceless VP hand out pink slips without ever knowing shit about the people they are laying off or their role in the company.

That's true of any kind of business. Poor management will do random layoffs, never make arrangements for who will do the work those laid-off were doing. When a company starts laying off without fixing the real problems in management it can mean that company is having serious problems.

I once went to a seminar that said that if you're looking for an efficient company to count the levels of management, the very most efficient have only 4 levels ---- no matter how big, the least efficient have many more layers ---- important decisions never get made, everything is sitting on some assistant to the assistant manager, then it moves up and will sit on the assistant to the assistant director's desk for a few weeks and so on. No one really holds any responsibility, the blame gets shifted up or down.

174 posted on 09/22/2003 4:59:49 PM PDT by FITZ
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To: Amerigomag
Programming is not rocket science. Agreed. However, the criteria for getting into the university is about money and grades. The foreign students pay more in tuition and they have better grades. They have better grades because usually they come from a higher, more competitive standard of education. The trade off is they get reamed with tuition.I think that's fair. If Americans want in, improve the standard of education and work for the grades. Many Americans have done the work and made the grades before. Many will continue to do just that. Others will blame failure to achieve a goal on something or someone else rather than take responsibility.
175 posted on 09/22/2003 5:06:18 PM PDT by trini
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To: LinuxRocks
"Great news. It's about time they stood up for the American worker."

It doesn't sounds like they have passed the limitation on Visas yet. I'm planning to write my Senators.

As far as outsourcing goes. most of the work is substandard because they don't have any loyalty to the companies sending the work. One company here sent their work to Pakistan. They got back source files with headers listing another American company as the owner of the files. When companies begin to realize the quality of the work is below par and that the companies are stealing proprietary work, maybe there will be less outsourcing too.
176 posted on 09/22/2003 5:15:14 PM PDT by FR_addict
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To: AntiGuv
Here's a way to send a free fax to Congress on this issue:

http://www.numbersusa.com/interests/hightech.html
177 posted on 09/22/2003 5:19:47 PM PDT by FR_addict
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To: AntiGuv
Lets see.....three years into an economic downturn, and congress acts to limit the number of foreign workers? How brilliant!

This is a perfect example of why government is rarely the right answer, contrary the the beliefs of radicals in the democratic party.

178 posted on 09/22/2003 5:21:43 PM PDT by GirlyGirl2003 (ACLU Secularists have already lost. The Religious Right is waking up and God is leading)
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To: trini
"That said, I don't really agree with the statement that you can't find educated Americans. Too much of a generalization for me."

People just don't understand. The few openings that remain receive hundreds of applications. Most managers I have worked for really weren't concerned about one's education.
179 posted on 09/22/2003 5:26:58 PM PDT by JohnSmithee
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To: JohnGalt
" we cannot find enough U.S. workers with the advanced education, skills, and expertise we need," he said." This has to be the biggest piece of crap anyone from the left coast has tried to pass off in at least 12 hours.

They should be in a situation where every H1B that comes to maeirca is equalized with a trade barrier taken down by the government of India.

180 posted on 09/22/2003 5:28:15 PM PDT by q_an_a
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