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I think we should have more h1-b's. These people are smart, work hard, pay taxes, committ almost no crime, don't do drugs and would make fine citizens.

Sorry, H1Bs do not pay income tax or social security, zero, zilch, nada. For employers, that gives them at least a 15% edge on US employees. Then when u factor in pensions, medical, etc. etc. --- no comparison

Outsourcing programming and most other white collar jobs is not the danger (although outsourcing manufacturing is another story). Why? Two reasons:

1. Outsourcing programs have been a disaster thus far... they have too many bugs to be feasible in the long run. No communication, either. Crappy quality, poor English skills. It's a fad, little more.

2. Some tech people will always be required in-house. You can't replace a secretary's trashed RAM from the Internet, for example. You can have a radiologist look at X-rays from India, but you can't have a neurosurgeon operate on an US patient from India. Same thing applies to the tech field.

Besides, offshoring is so easy now that I believe that if any H1-Bs could be replaced by outsourced employees, companies would have done so already at this point. Just do a Google search on outsourcing, many many Indian companies are out there willing to take anything for pennies.

There are about 1 million H1-Bs in the United States currently and more than 3 million unemployed. For any politican to keep them inside the borders is not only a threat to national security, but one job less within the economy.

When you consider an unemployed person's EIC, Medicare, unemployment tax, food stamps, et cetera, and not to mention the lost tax revenues from the H1-B not being required to pay SS, each H1-B may well be a much greater burden on the economy than the few 10K a business saves. Not to mention that the tech sector is predominantly Republican, and they may just sit 2004 out. I believe that if Bush is to lose, the only reason he will lose is over his refusal to do anything for the unemployment rate.

Uh, you might feel more comfortable over at DU... paying taxes doesn't mean anything, We need fewer taxes so them paying them doesn't help anything but the liberal socialist's plan for our country. These people come here, breed so they can stay and take jobs from U.S. citizens. They are NOT all hard working and their body odor is horrible. They're eroding our way of life are are hurting the morals of our country. They are a huge security risk. We need to secure all of our borders and, at least for a while, stop this invasion. This is a small start but yet it is a start.