[Amerigomag]

The reason you can't find educated Americans is because the standard of education in the public schools here is poor as compared to overseas

First, programming is not rocket science. The average high school B student can be trained to write lines of code. What that student needs is a chance to get into the equally watered down state university system to be trained.

I'm from California and at present 6% of the UC population are foreign nationals which is at the expense of these "trainable" students.

[trini]

Programming is not rocket science. Agreed. However, the criteria for getting into the university is about money and grades. The foreign students pay more in tuition and they have better grades. They have better grades because usually they come from a higher, more competitive standard of education. The trade off is they get reamed with tuition.I think that's fair. If Americans want in, improve the standard of education and work for the grades. Many Americans have done the work and made the grades before. Many will continue to do just that. Others will blame failure to achieve a goal on something or someone else rather than take responsibility.