Posted on 09/21/2003 7:12:43 PM PDT by adamyoshida
Can Moslems Serve?
Sergeant Assan Akhbar. Sergeant John Allen Muhammad. Sergeant Ali Mohamed. Captain James Yee. What do all of these men have in common? They all served in the US Army, they are all Moslems, and they are all traitors. Akhbar killed several of his fellow soldiers in a grenade attack during the Iraq War. Muhammad was an unreliable solider who, after leaving the Army, killed ten people in a series of sniper attacks. Mohamed set up the terrorist cell which eventually bombed the US Embassy in Nairobi. The latest man on the list, Captain Yee, is a Chinese-American who converted to Islam in the mid 1990’s. Eventually he became an Islamic Chaplin and was regularly hailed in the media as an effective illustration of a loyal practitioner of the religion of peace. Oh yes, and was a terrorist too- that part is a little hard to forget. Given all of this, the question must be asked: can Moslems continue to be allowed to serve in the American Armed Forces, or does their presence constitute a security risk?
There will be those who will accuse me of racism for even raising such a question. How dare I question the loyalty of Islamic soldiers serving on the front lines? But events now leave us with no choice. Moreover, it is clear that al-Qaeda is deliberately infiltrating the US Army- Yee suddenly rejoined the Army after living in Syria for four years, Mohamed came to the US Army by way of the Egyptian one. A good first step would be to forbid the service in the US military of anyone who has lived in an Islamic country for an extended period of time and was not on government business of some sort. This might sound unfair to some- but allowing someone to join the US Army after a half-decade sojourn in Araby is like allowing someone just back from a six-year stint as a Factory Worker in the USSR to join the Marine Corps circa 1953.
Whether we like it or not the War on Terrorism puts us up against people who claim to be fighting on behalf of the Islamic religion. The Islamist creed is strong, especially among new converts to the religion (which a majority of Moslems in the US Army are) it is hardly unexpected that some will take seriously the calls for Jihad and attack their fellow soldiers. This problem is made much worse when these men are deployed to the Middle East where they are subjected to a constant stream of Islamist propaganda and called upon to fight their fellow Mohammedans.
Some have advocated the immediate discharge of all Moslems in the Armed Forces. I would not, perhaps, go that far. The discharge of those practicing the Islamic faith would unfairly punish actually loyal Americans simply upon the basis of their religion. Rather, a through investigation of the backgrounds of all Islamic soldiers must be undertaken and those whose loyalty might be even considered somewhat suspect must be immediately removed from the service. Many will call such investigations ‘McCarthyism’ and they’re right if, by ‘McCarthyism’ they mean ‘investigations that remove disloyal individuals from the government.’ Still, these investigations will find that only a minority of Moslems have terrorist ties or suspect loyalties- so what shall be done with the rest?
I think that we ought to look to history for a solution to this problem. In the Second World War Japanese-Americans, while forbidden from serving in the regular army, were allowed to join the 442nd Regimental Combat Team, which became one of the most distinguished units of the entire war. Deployed for service in Italy, members of the unit fought with fanatical and suicidal bravery thereby proving that they were as loyal as any other Americans.
This would be an excellent model to follow today. Most estimates suggest that there are somewhere between five and ten thousand Moslems in the US Army, the majority of them black converts. These men could be reassigned to a new ‘Islamic Brigade’, which could then be deployed to some theatre where they would be unlikely to have to fight against their fellow Moslems and where they might be kept away from the influence of radical Islamists. The men could be carefully monitored, with those showing radical tendencies being speedily discharged. They could be placed under the spiritual guidance of extremely carefully vetted moderate Islamic clerics and guided towards a peaceful and ‘Americanized’ form of Islam.
Casually dismissing 1 billion people as untrustworthy is also a sign of ignorance.
It's not my, or anyone else's sacred rite. Muslims have a form of extremely-late term abortion, though -- commonly called suicide bombers.
Right, and Billy Jeff Clinton shot Vince Foster too, right?
Whatchu mean? Them 1 billion people blew up our buildings. We gotta hit back!
The Ask The Imam and Islam Q&A sites tell the muslim followers of Islam that they are not to fight against muslims or Islamic nations. Did anyone tell American Christians (or more specifically, Catholics) that they couldn't shoot facist Italians, Germans, etc in WWII because they shared a common religion?
Here is one such question from Ask The Imam regarding the "loyalty oath" one takes when becoming a US citizen:
Is it allowed to obtain United States Citizenship so that travelling for deen becomes easier?They require you to promise to bear arms for the country. The oath of allegiance is as follows:
The Oath of Allegiance I hereby declare, on oath, that I absolutely and entirely renounce and abjure all allegiance and fidelity to any foreign prince, potentate, state, or sovereignty, of whom or which I have heretofore been a subject or citizen; that I will support and defend the Constitution and laws of the United States of America against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I will bear arms on behalf of the United States when required by the law; that I will perform noncombatant service in the Armed Forces of the United States when required by the law; that I will perform work of national importance under civilian direction when required by the law; and that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; so help me God.
If they require or ask you to bear arms against a muslim country, what should be the response. Their laws are against 4 marraige law of Islaam. Does the pledge cause any "Ilhaad" or any such anti-islamic view? Please answer according to Hanafi Fiqh.
Answer:
1. If your intention is solely to facilitate easier travel, you are permitted to obtain US citizenship. Although the oath of allegiance is un-Islamic in nature, it will not be treated as an 'Islamic oath'. Therefore, you are not compelled to execute the oath. [ the oath is just words, say them but don't uphold them... ]
2. If you are called up to bear arms against Muslims, you are not permitted to do so by Islamic law. [ can you find this type of statement made by leaders of other religions? ]
3. The pledge does not constitute Ilhaad.
Mufti Muhammad Kadwa
FATWA DEPT.CHECKED AND APPROVED CORRECT: Mufti Ebrahim Desai
I would suggest that God leaves personal decisions up to us (unless you're a Calvinist).
BTW, from your post #30 and tagline, you appear rather touchy and let me assure you that I wouldn't mind if you posted the word "crap". That's better than how I the Iranian version of Islam.:)
It's not my, or anyone else's sacred rite.
Whatchu mean? The Supreme Court has ruled we have the right! You anti-American or something?
Muslims have a form of extremely-late term abortion, though -- commonly called suicide bombers.
Actually, I believe the term is post-natal abortion. The Supreme Court has not yet endorsed that procedure, so until then the actions of Al Qaeda should still be considered unlawful.
Can I join the United States Army?
Please tell me.
Answer:
It is not permissible to join the United State’s Army.
and Allah Ta'ala Knows Best
Mufti Ebrahim Desai
Those Christians, I expect, would get beaten very badly, as should the Muslims you mention. That the Muslims you mention don't is something for which I blame the Christians.
Perhaps but then they may be banking on the Christian practice of "turning the othr cheek" when attacked. It aids their war effort.
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