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U.S. Military Denies Report of Saddam Exile Offer
Reuters ^ | 09-21-03

Posted on 09/21/2003 10:51:28 AM PDT by Brian S

Sun September 21, 2003 11:57 AM ET

TIKRIT, Iraq (Reuters) - The U.S. military on Sunday denied a British media report that Saddam Hussein had offered money and information on weapons of mass destruction in return for safe passage to the ex-Soviet republic of Belarus.

The Sunday Mirror newspaper said an aide of the fugitive ex-president had approached U.S. forces in Tikrit and led them to a house in the suburbs. There, they were given a letter, purportedly handwritten by Saddam, proposing talks.

It said negotiations had been going on for nine days covering weaponry and bank accounts containing tens of millions of dollars.

Lt. Col. William MacDonald, spokesman for the U.S. Army's 4th Infantry Division which controls Tikrit north of the Iraqi capital Baghdad, said the story was wrong.

"The 4th Infantry Division has not had any contact with any former regime members regarding Saddam Hussein's disposition," he told Reuters.

U.S. commanders in Tikrit say they believe Saddam, on the run since he was ousted by U.S.-led forces in April, could well be in hiding in his home-town area where he still enjoys strong support and has close tribal and family ties.

The newspaper suggested Saddam had chosen Belarus as a country with a leadership still rooted in a Soviet past that might show sympathy to an erstwhile ally.

The United States, which invaded Iraq in March citing a danger from weapons of mass destruction, has said it would not negotiate with Saddam. It has so far failed to find any evidence of nuclear, chemical or biological arms.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News
KEYWORDS: agitprop; baghdadbob; denial; iraq; iraqaftermath; propaganda; saddam; saddamdeathwatch; saddamexile; topplesaddam
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1 posted on 09/21/2003 10:51:28 AM PDT by Brian S
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To: Brian S
"It has so far failed to find any evidence of nuclear, chemical or biological arms."

Oh really? Have they read the Kay report that has yet to be delivered?

2 posted on 09/21/2003 10:56:52 AM PDT by Normal4me
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To: Brian S
"Lt. Col. William MacDonald, spokesman for the U.S. Army's 4th Infantry Division which controls Tikrit north of the Iraqi capital Baghdad, said the story was wrong."

"Lt. Col. MacDonald went on to add, however, that they would now have to kill the British reporter."

3 posted on 09/21/2003 10:59:52 AM PDT by Polybius
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To: Brian S
The U.S. military on Sunday denied a British media report that Saddam Hussein had offered money and information on weapons of mass destruction in return for safe passage to the ex-Soviet republic of Belarus.

That means it is true.

4 posted on 09/21/2003 11:03:41 AM PDT by ChefKeith (NASCAR...everything else is just a game!)
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To: Brian S
That's not much of a denial.

They have a Major General deny that his unit hasn't been contacted and/or isn't in negotiation.

He is BENEATH and LTG, who is beneath a full general, who is beneath another full general or two, who is beneath a SecDef, beneath a President advised by a Nat'l Security Advisor.

Let Codaleeza (sp) Rice deny. Then it'll have substance.
5 posted on 09/21/2003 11:07:41 AM PDT by xzins (And now I will show you the most excellent way!)
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To: Brian S
"TIKRIT, Iraq (Reuters) - The U.S. military on Sunday denied a British media report that Saddam Hussein had offered money and information on weapons of mass destruction in return for safe passage to the ex-Soviet republic of Belarus"

No kiddin' rooters. It may come as a shock that rational beings dismissed this report already. It's the second time in 6 months that I've heard it.

"The United States, which invaded Iraq in March citing a danger from weapons of mass destruction, has said it would not negotiate with Saddam. It has so far failed to find any evidence of nuclear, chemical or biological arms"

And how does rooters know this? Because they heard it in the media? Because of couple of unnamed "military officials" allegedly said it? Besides, even if we HADN'T found any evidence yet, there is still no reason to "negotiate" with a lying POS like Saddam IF he's even still alive : Saddam has never once made a deal and stuck to his end of the bargain.

Quagmire hype.

6 posted on 09/21/2003 11:12:46 AM PDT by cake_crumb (UN Resolutions = Very Expensive, Very SCRATCHY Toilet Paper)
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To: Brian S
Would the American Army in Germany in 1945 have "negotiated" with Adolf Hilter? Not bloody likely. General Eisenhower was under a standing Order to "capture Adolf Hitler" until December, 1945, when it was definitively established that Hitler had killed himself in May, 1945.

Does anyone seriously doubt that the American military is under a similar standing Order to capture Saddam Hussein, now, until it is definitively established that he is dead? Click below for the German/Iraqi comparison.

Congressman Billybob

Latest column, "Lessons for Iraq from General Washington, Major Andre, and Der Fuhrer Adolf Hitler," discussion thread on FR. Article is also on ChronWatch.

7 posted on 09/21/2003 11:34:53 AM PDT by Congressman Billybob (Everyone talks about Congress; I am doing something about it.)
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To: Congressman Billybob
The 4th Infantry Division has not had any contact with any former regime members regarding Saddam Hussein's disposition.

There are lots of Americans that are excluded by this denial.

8 posted on 09/21/2003 11:41:49 AM PDT by Starrgaizr
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To: Congressman Billybob
CB -- as I've learned, you are almost always correct. Again, what you've stated makes perfect sense, and I am inclined to agree.

Good luck in your race, BTW!
9 posted on 09/21/2003 11:43:34 AM PDT by jmstein7
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To: All
Since when do governments go out of their way to deny what is in a tabloid?
10 posted on 09/21/2003 11:44:58 AM PDT by yonif ("If I Forget Thee, O Jerusalem, Let My Right Hand Wither" - Psalms 137:5)
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To: Congressman Billybob
What a wonderful column you wrote concerning the occupation of Germany and parallels with Iraq. Everyone should check this link.
11 posted on 09/21/2003 12:02:38 PM PDT by Starrgaizr
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To: Brian S
I didn't think it was true.

Why should we do Saddam a favor.

One day real soon we will raid a house and there will be Saddam......and if he so much as twitchs......he is dead.

12 posted on 09/21/2003 12:20:02 PM PDT by Dog
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To: yonif
When a story this size comes along.

No way will we allow Saddam a life in exile.....to stalk the Iraqi people.

Saddam will die.

13 posted on 09/21/2003 12:21:36 PM PDT by Dog
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To: Starrgaizr
The 4th Infantry Division has not had any contact with any former regime members regarding Saddam Hussein's disposition.

There are lots of Americans that are excluded by this denial.

My thoughts exactly. What's more there are three ways for this "denial" to be technically true, while basically false.

  1. An American who is not with the 4th ID has had contact.
  2. The contact has been with someone who is not a former regime member.
  3. The contact has not concerned itself with SH's disposition

Enough wiggle room to drive a truck through.

14 posted on 09/21/2003 12:29:53 PM PDT by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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To: Polybius
learning from their own errors

The above quote is from your profile, and I hope you can live up to those words.

You might think what you wrote is funny, but I see it as a slur upon the honor and integrity of the U.S. Military.

What say you, Brutus?

15 posted on 09/21/2003 12:32:08 PM PDT by thinktwice
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To: Congressman Billybob
Well, we negotiate with hostage takers and the like, but ultimately, we storm in and either take them or kill them. Saddam's probably going to get the same treatment.
16 posted on 09/21/2003 12:40:56 PM PDT by CatoRenasci (Ceterum Censeo [Gallia][Germania][Arabia] Esse Delendam --- Select One or More as needed)
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To: Brian S
Arnold Denies Report of McClintock Exile Offer 

Sun September 21, 2003 11:57 AM ET

Orange County, CA (Peuters) - California gubernatorial candidate Arnold Schwarzenegger on Sunday denied a British media report that Tom McClintock had offered money from Indian gaming interests in return for an appointment to the state gaming commission.

It said negotiations had been going on for nine days covering tax-free cigars and bank accounts containing tens of millions of wampum.

"I have not had any contact with Chief McClintock regarding a position," he said.

Schwarzenegger campaign supporters believe that McClintock could well be in hiding in his home-town area where he still enjoys strong support and has close tribal and family ties.

17 posted on 09/21/2003 12:48:46 PM PDT by Young Rhino (Do the French know the meaning of the words soap, water, and deodorant?)
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To: Brian S; Normal4me
"It has so far failed to find any evidence of nuclear, chemical or biological arms."

Oh really? Then why did the US military find a group of 20 buildings that were so radioactive that they couldn't enter the area safely? They had to wait for a special team to arrive with protective suits and better Geiger counters than the field units had. From 100 yards away, the buildings pegged high on the Geiger counters that the field units had.

18 posted on 09/21/2003 12:55:13 PM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity (Stop the violins!! Visualize whirled peas...)
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To: Congressman Billybob
Very good article on the Germany/Iraq comparison. Thanks for the research and the posting.
19 posted on 09/21/2003 1:27:52 PM PDT by baseballmom (Baseball is life - the rest is just details)
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To: Brian S
I think there's some element of truth in it.
20 posted on 09/21/2003 1:29:29 PM PDT by Maximus_Ridiculousness
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