***NASCAR MBNA America 400 at Dover on NBC Sunday 9/21 at 10am PT / 1pm ET***

NASCAR.com ^ | 9/20/03

[NormsRevenge]

With a brand of racing that is as intimate as it is intense, there's no wonder why people continue to flock to "The Monster Mile." Dover, with seating for more than 140,000, is one of the most popular race destinations in the Northeast and hosts some of the biggest crowds to see a sporting event between New York and North Carolina.

This thread is dedicated to our Armed Forces members and their families worldwide and to the victims of Hurricane Isabel.

God Bless America and God Bless FRee Republic.

[NormsRevenge]

NASCAR

Dover International Speedway

MBNA America 400 at Dover

NBC at 10am PT / 1pm ET on Sunday, September 21, 2003

With a brand of racing that is as intimate as it is intense,
there's no wonder why people continue to flock to "The Monster Mile."
Dover, with seating for more than 140,000, is one of the most popular race
destinations in the Northeast and hosts some of the biggest crowds to see
a sporting event between New York and North Carolina.

Track Facts
Banking/Turns: 24 degrees
Distance: 1 mile
Shape: Oval

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[Travis Bickel/Marine Inspector]

Hopefully they won't schedule the race and the 49ers game at the same time, like they did last week.

[LasVegasMac]

That is why they make picture in picture TV sets.

In fact, that is why PnP was invented.

All Hail the Remote!!!

I've noticed that the wife and I have more arguments in the Fall than any other season. I'm stumped.

Die hard Ram fan here. They got real lucky last weekend!!

Die hard #88 fan here. If it wasn't for bad luck, DJ would have no luck. Tough season.

Nascar Truck race next weekend. Me and 80,000 close friends will be in attendance.

What a great time of year!

LVM

[NormsRevenge]

Thanks to both of you for stopping by today.

I hear ya on NFL and race days. We have 4 tvs in our house. ;-)

Go Vikes and Go Racers!

[kayak]

Information I know you're all dying to know .....

Governor goes back to Lowe's Motor Speedway to raise money

10:22 PM EDT on Saturday, September 20, 2003
Associated Press

RALEIGH, N.C. -- North Carolina Governor Mike Easley is hoping to raise some fast cash at Lowe's Motor Speedway in Concord next month.

The governor is holding a $1,000-a-person fund-raiser October ninth at the same track where he crashed into a wall at 120 miles per hour during a charity event in May.

Easley, a Democrat seeking re-election next year, wasn't injured in the crash.

The invitations to the event, dubbed the "Mike Easley 400," features a ticket with photographs of Easley behind the wheel and in a racing uniform.

Easley writes in the invitation that for everyone's safety the first lady will be there to ensure that he doesn't get behind the wheel.

Organizers say they expect at least 200 people to attend.

GAG!!!

[AGreatPer]

Now, let me tell you where Heaven is. Its called "The Underdog".

Get this, 21 TV's, up from 17 three weeks ago. Every football game that is live and of course racing.

If you have a betting account in an offshore, you can watch every game that is live and still keep up with your favoriate driver.

Add to this, $15 (up from $12.......the owner was losing money on the food) for all the shrimp and ribs you can eat. They also pull the plug out of the wall for the stupid juke box.

They will serve any domestic bottled or canned beer that you pre-order for $2.00 a pop. Very fair.

You can even get 6 White Castle Burgers and French Fries for $6.

Bring on the Iron City Beer.

This is Heaven I Tell YA.

[NormsRevenge]

I'll pass on the 6 White Castle Burgers Sliders .. The beer sounds good tho.. Thanks :-)

[steveegg]

Now that's one nice place (even though it's White Castle sliders they're serving).

[steveegg]

The lineup (set by owners' points because of Hurricane Isadore):

Pos.	Car	Driver	Make	Sponsor	Speed	Time	Behind
RAIN OUT Position Based on Owner Points
1	#17	Matt Kenseth	Ford	DeWalt Power Tools	N/A	N/A	N/A
2	#8	Dale Earnhardt Jr.	Chevrolet	Budweiser	N/A	N/A	N/A
3	#29	Kevin Harvick	Chevrolet	GM Goodwrench Service	N/A	N/A	N/A
4	#48	Jimmie Johnson	Chevrolet	Lowe's	N/A	N/A	N/A
5	#12	Ryan Newman	Dodge	ALLTEL	N/A	N/A	N/A
6	#24	Jeff Gordon	Chevrolet	DuPont	N/A	N/A	N/A
7	#97	Kurt Busch	Ford	Rubbermaid	N/A	N/A	N/A
8	#18	Bobby Labonte	Chevrolet	Interstate Batteries	N/A	N/A	N/A
9	#5	Terry Labonte	Chevrolet	Kellogg's/got milk?	N/A	N/A	N/A
10	#15	Michael Waltrip	Chevrolet	NAPA Auto Parts	N/A	N/A	N/A
11	#20	Tony Stewart	Chevrolet	Home Depot	N/A	N/A	N/A
12	#31	Robby Gordon	Chevrolet	Cingular Wireless	N/A	N/A	N/A
13	#99	Jeff Burton	Ford	CITGO	N/A	N/A	N/A
14	#2	Rusty Wallace	Dodge	Miller Lite	N/A	N/A	N/A
15	#9	Bill Elliott	Dodge	Dodge Dealers	N/A	N/A	N/A
16	#6	Mark Martin	Ford	Viagra	N/A	N/A	N/A
17	#40	Sterling Marlin	Dodge	Coors Light	N/A	N/A	N/A
18	#42	Jamie McMurray*	Dodge	Havoline	N/A	N/A	N/A
19	#16	Greg Biffle*	Ford	Grainger	N/A	N/A	N/A
20	#38	Elliott Sadler	Ford	M&M's	N/A	N/A	N/A
21	#22	Ward Burton	Dodge	Caterpillar	N/A	N/A	N/A
22	#32	Ricky Craven	Pontiac	Tide	N/A	N/A	N/A
23	#21	Ricky Rudd	Ford	Motorcraft Quality Parts	N/A	N/A	N/A
24	#25	Joe Nemechek	Chevrolet	UAW/Delphi	N/A	N/A	N/A
25	#19	Jeremy Mayfield	Dodge	Dodge Dealers	N/A	N/A	N/A
26	#10	Johnny Benson	Pontiac	Valvoline	N/A	N/A	N/A
27	#88	Dale Jarrett	Ford	UPS	N/A	N/A	N/A
28	#77	Dave Blaney	Ford	Jasper Engines & Transmissions	N/A	N/A	N/A
29	#7	Jimmy Spencer	Dodge	Sirius Satellite Radio	N/A	N/A	N/A
30	#1	John Andretti	Chevrolet	Pennzoil	N/A	N/A	N/A
31	#23	Kenny Wallace	Dodge	Stacker 2	N/A	N/A	N/A
32	#30	Steve Park	Chevrolet	America Online	N/A	N/A	N/A
33	#154	Todd Bodine	Ford	National Guard	N/A	N/A	N/A
34	#01	Mike Skinner	Pontiac	U.S. Army	N/A	N/A	N/A
35	#41	Casey Mears*	Dodge	Target	N/A	N/A	N/A
36	#45	Kyle Petty	Dodge	Georgia Pacific	N/A	N/A	N/A
37	#0	Jason Leffler	Pontiac	NetZero HiSpeed	N/A	N/A	N/A
38	#49	Ken Schrader	Dodge	BAM Racing	N/A	N/A	N/A
39	#74	Tony Raines*	Chevrolet	Staff America	N/A	N/A	N/A
40	#4	Kevin Lepage	Pontiac	Kodak	N/A	N/A	N/A
41	#43	Jeff Green	Dodge	Cheerios	N/A	N/A	N/A
42	#37	Derrike Cope	Chevrolet	Friendly's/GBR Online	N/A	N/A	N/A
43	#02	Hermie Sadler	Pontiac	TBA	N/A	N/A	N/A
Did not Qualify
44	#150	Larry Foyt*	Dodge	Harrah's	-	-	-
45	#27	Scott Wimmer	Chevrolet	Bill Davis Racing	-	-	-
46	#189	Morgan Shepherd	Ford	Racing With Jesus	-	-	-
47	#79	Billy Bigley	Dodge	Arnold Development Companies	-	-	-
48	#44	Christian Fittipaldi	Dodge	Bugles	-	-	-
49	#71	Tim Sauter	Chevrolet	TBA	-	-	-

* Denotes Rookie

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Some selected headlines:

NASCAR clarifies caution rules
Junior leads, Kenseth struggles in Happy Hour
J. Green to pilot No. 43 at Talledega, Charlotte
Rusty Wallace to start Busch team in 2004

[steveegg]

Summary of the caution/pit road rules changes (from NASCAR clarifies caution rules):

• Once the yellow flag is waved, all drivers must immediately reduce speed to a "cautious pace" and get in a single-file line behind the leader.
• Simple track position at the moment the flag flies will determine scoring ("6 inches or 6 car-lengths").
• Drivers who pass while reducing speed will be given the chance to return to their original position immediately. If they do not, "NASCAR will intervene."
• If NASCAR can't sort it out (this is expected to add a lap or 2 to the caution), they will revert to the last green-flag lap scoring.
• Drivers who do not "maintain a reasonable speed" during the yellow will lose their track position.
• Any driver who was in the incident that caused the caution will restart in the position they are able to return to the race without advancing their position.
• The first car that is scored at least one lap down when the caution flies (not necessarily the car closest to the leader) will, after being allowed to pit with the lapped cars, be moved around the pace car to the tail end of the lead-lap line before the green flies. Clarifying quote from John Darby, Winston Cup Series Director - "Everybody needs to understand that it's the highest scored position not on the lead lap. It won't be the car closest to the leader. If there's 21 cars on the lead lap, the competitor that'll be affected by receiving that lap back will be the 22nd on the scoreboard. That competitor may be two laps down, may be four laps down. It'll be the first car not on the lead lap."
• As for a car battling to get back on the lead lap as the flag flies, more Darby - "If a competitor has a fender on the leader at the time the caution's displayed, then, yes, he will be judged as having his lap back at that point. We'll review it, we'll make a call on it -- end of story." (presumably, this means that he'll get to finish the pass on the leader before the pace car picks him up)
• All cars will be required to come on to pit road single-file, and any passing must be made to the right. Passing to the left would result in a penalty of restarting at the end of the longest line for a caution penalty or a pass-through on pit road for a green penalty.

[Gabz]

No one can possibly imagine just how happy I am to no longer live in Dover.

[NormsRevenge]

Have at it! I will be AWOL for a bit.

I have been reminded that I have to go to a breakfast brunch or I'll be in the doghouse for the foreseeable future. ;-) (We don;t have a doghouse, btw, but my wife said it ,, and I believe it.)

I should be here for most of the race but will miss at least the first 100 laps or so, or the first 29 commercial breaks and cautions , which ever comes first. :-)

Thanks

[AGreatPer]

"If a competitor has a fender on the leader at the time the caution's displayed, then, yes, he will be judged as having his lap back at that point. We'll review it, we'll make a call on it -- end of story." (presumably, this means that he'll get to finish the pass on the leader before the pace car picks him up)"

"I'm still confused," Gordon continued. "I heard everybody talking as they left the driver's meeting, trying to figure out who, exactly, is getting their laps back."

Winston Cup director John Darby explained the rule, as such: "Everyone needs to understand it's the highest scored position, not on the lead lap. It won't be the car closest to the leader. In other words, if there's 21 cars on the lead lap, the competitor that will be affected by receiving that lap back will be the 22nd (driver) on the scoreboard

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Its going to be interisting to listen to the announcers try and explain just what happened. Also, the running positions on the rolling screen are gonna be screwed up.

Single file into the pitts is also gonna be good.

Ya gotta love it.

[WestCoastGal]

Where is everybody? Should be a great race today. I'm going with Newman again. : ) Tony looked good in Happy Hour and so did Junior. It's probably going to come down to tires, pit stops and luck today.

[countrydummy]

Good morning all! Great day for racing!

[#3Fan]

Everybody keep your eye out for the new Nascar commercial where the guy is sitting at dinner with his girlfriend's parents and he's racing the peas in his plate. Hilarious!

[WestCoastGal]

I saw that one yesterday, it is funny. My favorite is still the Boys from Ipanema with all the hunks, and the lady who grabs Bill Elliotts rear end. :-)

I also love all the Napa/Bud commercials. As long as they are not every 5 minutes!!!

[#3Fan]

I saw that one yesterday, it is funny. My favorite is still the Boys from Ipanema with all the hunks, and the lady who grabs Bill Elliotts rear end. :-)

Yeah, that's good. If we're going to go there I like the one where the camera has close-ups on the four women's lips from four racing divisions as they're kissing the winner (showing Dale Jr getting one). Those babes are hot! :^)

I also love all the Napa/Bud commercials. As long as they are not every 5 minutes!!!

True. lol

[#3Fan]

They must've seen my post, they just played it. lol

[GRRRRR]

Greeeeen GRREEEEEEEn!!

Rules changes every week...imagine the NFL doing that....

Let's GO 24######!

Skinner and Schrader bouncing around already....gonna be a long day