Schwarzenegger: McClintock a Pawn of Pro-Bustamante Indians

NewsMax ^ | Spet. 19, 2003 | Carl Limbacher

[FairOpinion]

American Indians who are supporting Democrat front-runner Cruz Bustamante in California are also promoting Republican state Sen. Tom McClintock, and GOP front-runner Arnold Schwarzenegger is furious.

"I think that as far as Tom McClintock is concerned, I think the question I have for him is, what side is he on?" Schwarzenegger said Thursday. "Is he on the side of the Republicans? Does he represent the Republicans, or does he represent Bustamante?"

Schwarzenegger suggested that the tribes were abetting Bustamante by trying to split the Republican vote.

"They are financing his commercials and TV spots and all that," said Schwarzenegger, who doesn't take money from Indian tribes. "He knows they're financing him not because they want him to be governor. They just want to interfere with the process so that Bustamante wins. He has to decide which side is he on, the Republicans' or Bustamante's."

McClintock called Schwarzenegger's comments "a ridiculous statement by a man who obviously hasn't paid much attention to California public affairs. ... For 20 years, I have fought to protect sovereignty on reservation lands, well before there was gaming.

"If they wanted to hurt Schwarzenegger, they would be making an independent expenditure to hurt Schwarzenegger, and Lord knows there's plenty they could hurt him with."

Assemblyman John Benoit, R-Palm Desert, a Schwarzenegger supporter, told the Riverside Press-Enterprise: "I think the idea of divide and conquer is a tried and true tactic. I can't speak for the Indians, but if there was somebody looking to help Bustamante, this would be the way to do it."

[sruleoflaw]

Have a good day -- But the Bustamante numbers are INFLATED.

[sruleoflaw]

There are also plenty of liberals in the Dem Party. Won't it be great to have TWO LIBERAL parties, thanks to Arnold the leftist?

[BillyBoy]

>> I live in McC's Northridge district. And his political career is over, trust me:):) <<

Wow, you seem VERY pleased that a conservative Republican will lose. Interesting. If you post those sentiments on MoveOn.org, I'm sure you will find lots of support. To make sure his campaign is over, will be donating to the local RAT running to defeat a "right-wing extremist"? Kinda reminds me of the "Republicans" on this forum who gloated when socialist RAT Mark Warner was eleced governor of VA.

You wouldn't happen to be buddies with the "Republican" freeper who gloated that he voted for DAVIS after "nutcase Bill Simon" got the party nomination, would you?

[Avoiding_Sulla]

You'd think "Mr. See Above" would get a new line, wouldn't you?

I am willing to bet big bucks Mr. See Above has more "see above" comments without even a hint of a link than any other poster.

Most FReepers are eager, even proud, to display their thoughts. But not somehow this observation does not apply to Mr See Above.

Now this is just my guess, but I suspect that anyone who has ever endeavored to see above, found only nothing there. So perhaps Mr. See Above is AKA Mr. Nothing There?

What's that? Who am I talking about? Oh, see above.

[A CA Guy]

You must have gotten that information from a place like MAD magazine to come away with that tidbit.

Most of the state doesn't even have a clue as to who McClintock is, so how do people choose this unknown over a Democrat when the state is tipped a good extra 10% to the Democrats in population?

It has been Arnold's name recognition that gets him 70% of the way toward victory. Tom has almost no name recognition, so you can help me out as to how your miracle is supposed to happen with a conservative unknown in a liberal tilting state? There is no beef regarding McClintock to find or I'd be voting for him.

[BobS]

"Have a good day -- But the Bustamante numbers are INFLATED"

I guess our little haggle won't be settled for a few weeks. So let's sort out the remains at that time. Agreed?

[BillyBoy]

>> Schwarzenegger has been a registered Republican for over twenty years...why, if you are correct, has he not changed parties in all that time? <<

Bwahahaha.....amatuer. I was registered as a Republican since the 50s! It was fun keeping the party label around for old times sake and keeps LOTS of you gullible right-wing nuts to spend me more CA$H!! That senate seat has been Republican since the civil war, I couldn't very well ditch the GOP until I had built of years of "service", now could I? I certainly still can't even run as a Dem in Vermont, I'd be competing with a zillion other guys for the money!

"I've been a Republican since I was a boy in Kankakee. I've been working on their campaigns since my brother was elected mayor in '62. Of course, by the late 80s I embraced socialism and no longer believed in the party's values, but I still keep the label around. Do you realize how hard it would be to get nominated as a DEMOCRAT here in Illinois? There were five guys running for Governor as Dems in '98: two congressman, the state treasurer, the Chicago Public Schools Superintentant, and the House Majority Leader. On the GOP side, my only opponent was some unknown retired airline pilot. I LOVE exploiting the GOP to advance my career! I got votes from far-left Greenies in Chicago AND from gullible Republican Party voters. No Democrat can do that!

[BobS]

"You wouldn't happen to be buddies with the "Republican" freeper who gloated that he voted for DAVIS after "nutcase Bill Simon" got the party nomination, would you?"

I have no idea who you're talking about. All I can tell you is there is a whole bunch of pissed-off Republicans who are sick and tired of losing. We want veins in our teeth, scattered, burnt, dead bodies all around us if the Republicans blow this one!

[A CA Guy]

Long Cut, you are from another state and I am A CA Guy, so I know where these people are far more than you do.

There is no such 1/3 1/3 with 1/3 undecided!

Last I heard, there is well over a millon extra registered Democrats over Republicans. I do agree this race is up in the air still though.

Arnold has this locked if McClintock wasn't trying to ruin this race.
McClintock as this goes on will be losing ground.
The people in general won't want Davis or Bustamante win and at least the smart and logical section of the Tombots will slide over to Arnold to avoid Cruz or Joe Davis. The rest are happy to cut their nose off despite their face.

[A CA Guy]

Excellent point about the party designation LC!

Also, even the Tombots know Arnold isn't as bad as they make him out. They are simply being stubborn.

As this goes on, look for McClintock's percentages to drop as the voting day draws near. Except for the LA Times that will have it 39% Bustamante.. 37% McClintock and 27% Arnold hoping to have an effect on voting.

I think the end results will be Arnold 37-45% Bustamante 27-37.5% and Tom at around 6-11% (but without the prospects of a future in Republican politics in California.

[EternalVigilance]

Don't be coy.

Don't tell me to 'see above', Dan, as you have now done twice.

Tell me which post you are referencing.

Such evasion on your part is unbecoming.

[EternalVigilance]

"Just think about it for a moment...if Schwarzenegger really WAS as much of a Leftist as some here claim, why would he not simply declare as a Democrat (which would gain him the acclaim and $$$ of most of his own Hollywood colleagues) and run as such? Certainly, in CA it might give him an advantage."

Ask Arnold. If you ever get the chance. Most every event I've seen him do is staged and stacked.

[BobS]

"I LOVE exploiting the GOP to advance my career! I got votes from far-left Greenies in Chicago AND from gullible Republican Party voters. No Democrat can do that!"

You really WILL pick the hill you choose to die on. At some point, that will become clear to you. Will it be a wasted, screwy life you lived up to that point? In the end, you will be alone. With your own decisions for a minute or two.

[A CA Guy]

I don't support abortion, but if the conservatives politically went to the country with:

"No abortion, except for rape, incest, life or death of the mother medically or children getting pregnant"...

That was a ***winnable goal*** that would have saved millions of babies compared to the nothing we have today.

In the balance I say saving millions of babies vs. nothing is a better deal.

Then, you don't give up on th rest, you just fight for them one at a time.

But, as is typical with stubborn people, they love to go at this all or nothing, end up with nothing but a pile of dead babies as high as a mountain that could have been saved.

Just think, perhaps 98% of the aborted babies would have been alive today had the leaders of the right to life movement had some smarts.

Of course I want no abortions like you would, but we are also dealing with a nation that doesn't have our belief systems and we have to save what we could of and fight to change the culture from there. Instead NOTHING, just more dead bodies... it is ashame.

Arnold is against late term abortion, says marriage is between a man and woman and didn't live life in a puritan community. But he is the ONLY electable guy on the Republican ticket and Cruz would be a nightmare come true.

Voting in a way to elect Cruz by voting McClintock down that losing hole won't have God pinning a Mensa badge on your chest either.

I agree with most of what you would, it's just that I think we have to win all these smaller battles that lead up to winning a war and other people I find to be stubborn and used to losing keep trying to only go with major all or nothing battle were they always get their nothing.

[EternalVigilance]

He won't be on the hill alone.

[EternalVigilance]

Just think, perhaps 98% of the aborted babies would have been alive today had the leaders of the right to life movement had some smarts.

You can take a lying leap, buddy.

It takes someone with a lot of gall to compromise every principle our party is supposed to stand for, and then stand there and blame the very people who are holding the line.

You're beneath contempt.