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Two incomes, more debt?
Christian Science Monitor ^ | September 17, 2003 | Marilyn Gardner

Posted on 09/17/2003 2:00:15 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

As a bankruptcy expert, Elizabeth Warren has seen the devastating effects on families when their finances collapse. She has also watched the number of bankruptcies escalate, rising 400 percent in the past 25 years. By the end of the decade, she says, an estimated 6 million families with children - 1 in every 7 such families - may declare bankruptcy. This year, more children are going through their parents' bankruptcies than their parents' divorces.

But Ms. Warren, a law professor at Harvard, rejects the conventional theory that overconsumption - squandering money on big-screen TVs, McMansions, restaurant meals, oversized cars, and luxury vacations - is to blame for insolvency and all those maxed-out credit cards. Instead, she points to the high cost of housing and education - fixed expenses that can quickly create a sea of red ink when families face layoffs, illness, or divorce. Skyrocketing healthcare costs add to the problem.

Ironically, Warren sees Mom's paycheck - a family's second income, the very asset meant to provide more financial stability - as a potential culprit rather than an economic cure. When middle-class mothers began entering the workforce en masse, she explains, their incomes gave parents more money to spend on housing. This created "frenzied bidding wars" for homes in desirable school districts. A deregulated mortgage industry compounded the peril by allowing homeowners to assume larger mortgages.

As a result, Warren says, dual-income families have less discretionary income and are more vulnerable economically than their single-breadwinner counterparts in the past.

She spells out her unusual theories in "The Two-Income Trap: Why Middle-Class Mothers and Fathers Are Going Broke" (Basic Books), written with her daughter, Amelia Warren Tyagi.

"Two parents working hard at two jobs is not a guarantee against economic disaster," Warren says in a phone interview. "Today's parents feel they have no option but to pour enormous energy and all of their economic resources into getting their children into decent schools."

Problems arise, the authors add, when couples commit both incomes to fixed expenses. "Families aren't going broke because of one extra pair of Nikes," says Ms. Tyagi, a business consultant. "Families are vulnerable because they've stretched the fixed costs they have to pay month in, month out, no matter what. If something goes wrong and you face a period of unemployment, there's no way to cut back on the mortgage."

The No. 1 question every two-income couple needs to ask, Warren says, is whether their family can survive without one income. If not, she urges them to create an emergency backup plan as a hedge against the possibility that one of them will lose their income at some point.

The authors shun the conventional advice financial advisers often give, such as: Keep track of every penny. Don't eat out too often. Save on dry cleaning. They take the opposite approach, encouraging families to enjoy treats. If a layoff or illness occurs, the money allocated for these small pleasures can buy necessities.

Barbara Bergmann, an economist and a senior research associate at the Council on Contemporary Families, disagrees. She criticizes their theory that working mothers' salaries are partly to blame for the high rate of bankruptcies, calling it "totally fallacious." And she takes issue with the notion that the money mothers earn has fueled bidding wars.

According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, Ms. Bergmann says, housing costs have risen 5.1 percent a year since 1970, when married mothers began entering the labor market in substantial numbers. During the same time, prices of consumer goods have gone up by almost the same amount, 4.9 percent a year.

She notes that rising mortgage payments include the home-equity loans people use to finance cars, renovate houses, and pay off credit-card debt.

For some two-income couples, cutting back on expenses remains important. In the early years of their marriage, Joe and Kristie Tamsevicius of Gurnee, Ill., faced more than $30,000 in credit-card debts. Mrs. Tamsevicius, who worked her way through college, had student loans to pay off. The arrival of two children added more expenses. "Babies are money-eating machines," she says. "They need so much."

By paying careful attention to what they spent, the couple gradually paid off their debts. They now have $40,000 in investments and savings. Among other cost-cutting measures, they drive to southern Wisconsin to shop for food, reducing their grocery bills from $180 a week to $110.

Last month, Mr. Tamsevicius, who does specialized computer programming, was laid off. To protect their assets, he has refinanced his truck, saving $200 a month. A rental property they own also brings in $300 a month. He plans to join his wife as a partner in her Internet business, Webmomz.com.

Double income, double expenses

As Warren and Tyagi note, a second income produces extra expenses. Creighton and Liza Abrams live in New Jersey and work in New York, he as a public relations executive, she as a marketing director. Their dual incomes require two expensive commutes, totaling $20 a day. Child care siphons off almost $2,000 a month and now costs more than their mortgage. They have "reasonable" credit-card debts and a small school loan, plus a car loan.

"Saving for two college educations while paying off a college education and saving for two retirements is tough," Mr. Abrams says. "We need to buy new appliances and paint the house, but we also want our first vacation in two years." Each choice will cost about $2,000. "If we killed off the credit cards, we could wipe out the college loan faster, then pay for the car and have an extra grand a month. That would really put us ahead."

How can parents avoid the two-income trap Warren and Tyagi describe? Sending Mom home is not the answer, they insist. Most families cannot afford to live on one salary. Instead, the authors advise couples to try to pay fixed expenses - mortgage, car, preschool tuition, health insurance - from one salary.

Other remedies require policy changes. Warren and Tyagi call for reregulating mortgages to require larger down payments for first-time home buyers. These have shrunk from an average of 18 percent in the mid-1970s to about 3 percent today. They propose public school vouchers, allowing parents to choose schools, thus freeing them from the need to live in high-priced neighborhoods. And they rail against usurious practices by credit-card companies, proposing caps on high penalties for late payments.

"Bankers who wear $3,000 suits and starched shirts are now charging interest rates that Jimmy the Leg-breaker didn't charge 25 years ago," Warren says. "Nobody sounds the alarm. The consequence is a wealth transfer of tens of billions of dollars every year from middle-class families to a handful of big banks."

A new study by Demos, a nonpartisan public-policy group in New York, supports that view. In the 1990s, the report finds, the average family's credit-card debt rose by 53 percent; middle-class families saw a 75 percent increase in that debt. For very low-income families, the figure shot up to 184 percent.

"Deregulation of the credit-card industry has allowed companies to take advantage of tough economic times," says Tamara Draut, coauthor of the study, "Borrowing to Make Ends Meet." The group wants Congress to rein in aggressive lending practices.

Whatever a family's economic challenges, they can be compounded by a cultural silence about money. Tyagi calls financial distress "the last great taboo." She notes that people will go on nationwide television and talk about intimate details of their lives, but they won't tell their own families that they're getting calls from collection agents who want to repossess the car.

Ashamed of financial problems

In a study conducted by the authors of more than 2,000 families in financial trouble, more than 80 percent said they didn't tell anyone, even when their difficulties stemmed from a job loss or illness, rather than overconsumption.

Many financial planning books ignore this kind of domestic fiscal crisis. "They tell how much to put in your 401(k), how to choose an IRA, but they tend to leave out the folks who are trying to decide whether to pay the health insurance or the car insurance," Tyagi says.

To those facing heavy debts, she offers reassurance, saying, "You're not alone. There are families at the PTA, at church, at work who are in just as much trouble as you are. They just don't talk about it." Emphasizing that most of those in financial straits are not immoral people trying to sneak away from their debts, she says, "It could happen to any of us. Families must try to overcome that shame and talk about it."


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To: chris1
My wife and 8 kids and I sure do well on my 50k income. We were never in the big house and SUV competition and are way ahead now. We are debt free and saving lots of money.
101 posted on 09/17/2003 9:42:53 AM PDT by biblewonk (Spose to be a Chrisssssssstian)
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To: nutmeg
read later bump
102 posted on 09/17/2003 9:44:49 AM PDT by nutmeg ("The DemocRATic party...has been hijacked by a confederacy of gangsters..." - Pat Caddell, 11/27/00)
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To: from occupied ga
What's unfortunate is that the people who believe that the "government" owes them are not the same people who the government is bleeding dry.

True, but government isn't helping anyone, they're just helping themselves.

103 posted on 09/17/2003 9:50:10 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: biblewonk
My wife and 8 kids and I sure do well on my 50k income.

Is that all? (...he asked, playing the devil's advocate. ;O)

Maybe that guy who mentioned taxes had a point, after all.

104 posted on 09/17/2003 9:54:26 AM PDT by newgeezer (Just my opinion, of course. Your mileage may vary. You have the right to be wrong.)
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To: netmilsmom
If life were perfect, I could find a job I could do at home while I stay with my three year old.

Have you considered tax accounting? You can take a course at community college, or at H&R Block or Jackson-Hewitt or whatever storefront tax preparer is in your area. Then you buy some software and run an ad in the paper. Charge a little less than the storefront tax preparer, and you'll have all the work you can do!

Obviously it's extremely seasonal, but there's some business after April 15 if you've got extensions or quarterly filings to do. And sometimes you can work at home through a temporary agency, and then you wouldn't have to do self-employment tax, just cash your check.

105 posted on 09/17/2003 9:55:51 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Having a baby instead of a tax practice in 2004!)
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To: chris1
The problem isn't college but (some of) the people who go there.

The tradesmen (plumbers, etc.) who make very good money are, by and large, smart, skillful, and hard working. The people who go to college and DON'T eventually make good money are, by and large, just plain not smart enough or hard working enough to make it in the professions.

I am quite certain that almost all of the very good and very prosperous tradesmen I've met would have, had they been properly encouraged while children, gone on to college and been very successful in the professions or in a higher level of business -- and be much, much richer than they are now.

Still, if it happens that you are dumb or lazy, college is still a good bet for you. A dumb or lazy tradesman won't last two weeks. A dumb or lazy guy with a bachelors degree can earn $40k or $50k and full benefits once he weasles his way into a soft spot in some government or corporate bureaucracy somewhere.
106 posted on 09/17/2003 9:56:21 AM PDT by only1percent
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To: PennsylvaniaMom
It is like these people put every penny into their granite countered/marbled floor/cathedral ceilinged McMansion and live on nothing else...AND lendors are approving these loans--the debt/income ratios must be out the window for these folks to have gotten the credit needed to mortgage such an extravagent home.

Bump!

What's the point? This doesn't sound like a happy situation.

107 posted on 09/17/2003 9:58:02 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: chris1
At least the Demos are honest about what they are - socialists.

Good grief they can't even say LIBERAL!

108 posted on 09/17/2003 9:59:23 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Prolifeconservative
Good rant. Very good rant.

All this technology gidgetry is taxing the common man. It is only my opinion that one day, I don't know when, the average Joe is going to wake up and say enough is enough and there will be a trend in America where people will turn their backs on this insanity and go back to a simpler life, a day when a man works to pay a mortgage, electric bill, and a phone. I don't expect it to be a large scale trend, but there will be some type of smaller scale rejection of this type of lifestyle. It's just getting insane.

Conveniences have become expensive, time consuming intrusions.

109 posted on 09/17/2003 10:03:21 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
True, but government isn't helping anyone, they're just helping themselves.

Yes first and foremost they help themselves. How many government employees do jobs that would even exist if they had to rely on people wanting their services? Not many.

Oh wait I forgot , "It's for the children."

110 posted on 09/17/2003 10:06:12 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy, and Bush is no conservative)
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To: cardinal4
Congratulations!
111 posted on 09/17/2003 10:18:43 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: oh8eleven
You are absolutely correct. I had my own law office for a few years and quickly turned from a Dim to a conservative. There is nothing like sweating out how you are going to pay the office rent, your license, etc. etc as well as your home expenses while you see women on welfare cruising up and down the street shopping w/their kids on your money.

Call me a terrible person for making this generality, but this is a generality about which I have intimate knowledge. (some were my clients, some were people i saw in the neighborhood)

I got really tired, really fast, of working all the time so that others could hang out on my dime.

I tell my friends who think I'm weird for being conservative, that they should all go into business for themselves for a year. Once they see what they are really paying and start looking at all the government programs from welfare to farm subsidies, they will never be fans of the nanny state again.
112 posted on 09/17/2003 10:21:45 AM PDT by radiohead
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To: radiohead
Wow, we are having the same experience! I opened up shop about year 1/2 ago doing mostly collections. Its a big eye opener in terms of your mental state of mind.
113 posted on 09/17/2003 10:31:51 AM PDT by chris1
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To: backhoe
My wife and I made between 80-90 k last year. Taxes were:

$12,000 Federal
$2,500 state
$6,000 SS + Medicare
total $18,500

about 22% effective rate
However Marginal rate was 27.5 Federal 2.8% state + 7.5 for SS + Medicare = 42.3%.
When I lost my job we really only took a 60% paycut.
114 posted on 09/17/2003 10:41:57 AM PDT by tort_feasor
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To: chris1
Yep. I turned into what the homies call a 'hater' very quickly.
115 posted on 09/17/2003 10:48:26 AM PDT by radiohead
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To: radiohead
I am having a good experience so far, but I cringe at the cost of health insurance( I don't have any) $400/mo. Since I am young, I am trying to stay as healthy and avoid as many risks as possible. I am not a hater, but I am resentful against lazy slobs who think that they are entitled to a certain lifestyle without working for it.
116 posted on 09/17/2003 10:51:41 AM PDT by chris1
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To: Prolifeconservative
Just for the simple sake of a financial arguement, who comes out better in this scenario: the doctor who spent 12 years of his life choosing to be educated instead of earning, incurring 100,000 dollars of debt in the process, but eventually getting an enormous salary OR the guy who finishes high school, learns his trade, goes into a drywall business, proceeds prudently in all areas of his life as far as finances?

The book The Millionaire Next Door tells us that by far most millionaires in the US are those who have started small businesses (though the failure rate is about 80% for those small businesses!), and who have used their income prudently to build up their assets--NOT those who live lives to the hilt and spend every dime of their enormous income (not talking about the mega-rich, only those who are the so-called normal millionaire, with assets of $3.5 million or so).

To paraphrase the old commercial--it's not how much you make, it's how much you manage to put away and hang onto...

117 posted on 09/17/2003 12:33:25 PM PDT by texasbluebell
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To: cardinal4
Re: #94--excellent.

You'll get there, just keep working at it.
118 posted on 09/17/2003 12:38:37 PM PDT by texasbluebell
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To: John O
Yes, fiscal irresponsibility is the root of the problem. However, when a couple is already in serious debt, and barely keeping up on two incomes, this is a sign that they are in fact irresponsible, and that they need to learn to be responsible before taking on the huge responsibility of parenthood. Going ahead and having children before dealing with the problems caused by earlier irresponsibility, just looks to me like another round of irresponsible behavior. Just assuming that they can have what they want now (this time, children) and figure out later how to pay for it, is the same old irresponsible pattern. The result is often kids growing up with parents who are too busy and stressed to pay much attention to them (or too stressed to get along and stay married), and by the time the parents get around to learning responsibility, the kids are already grown up and carrying a lot of nasty baggage.
119 posted on 09/17/2003 12:56:50 PM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: GovernmentShrinker
agree exactly.
120 posted on 09/17/2003 1:33:27 PM PDT by John O (God Save America (Please))
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