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Die-hards and the damage done: Hugh Hewitt likens McClintock recall race, Buchanan bid
WorldNetDaily.com ^ | Wednesday, September 17, 2003 | Hugh Hewitt

Posted on 09/17/2003 1:44:36 AM PDT by JohnHuang2

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To: Sabertooth
Nicely said.
41 posted on 09/17/2003 5:30:24 AM PDT by Cacophonous
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To: BibChr
We surrender.

From now on we will abandon all principle, because you, in your unbelievable wisdom, have taught us that the only way to the promised land is to do so.

You have also taught us that we can quote scripture and piously ridicule all who don't agree with us as we do it! What an incredible bonus! (/sarcasm)
42 posted on 09/17/2003 5:36:04 AM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: JohnHuang2
But PB cannot be blamed for putting David Souter on the Court, and that's part of the reason GHWB lost; he made some very poor decisions.

Having said that, I agree with Hugh's point about McClintock.

43 posted on 09/17/2003 5:37:01 AM PDT by DLfromthedesert
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To: EternalVigilance
Right.

How dare you (real)conservatives having morals and standards that you really believe in!

You should mindlessly drink whatever kool-aid the RNC is handing out and support their leftist lib candidates 100%! like good little robots!(BARF!)

This article proves there isn't a dimes worth of difference between the two parties at all. They both demand their members drink swill and call it champagne!

44 posted on 09/17/2003 5:39:45 AM PDT by Walkin Man
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To: JohnHuang2; All
I (like many others) have been following this ongoing flamewar between the "principled conservatives" and the "evil rino traitors pseudo-consevatives".
I would remind BOTH sides that at the end of the day, that which unites us is much greater than that which divides us.

Now go back to your corners, remember no rabbit-punches, no hitting below the belt, no kidney-punches, in case of a knockdown go to a neutral corner.
45 posted on 09/17/2003 5:41:12 AM PDT by Valin (There is all the difference in the world between treating people equally and attempting to make them)
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To: Cacophonous
RE: "woo and screw"

Good point!

I am very likely to vote McClintock. Vote Schwarzenegger and show the leftist / liberal pukes that we can win?

Or is it as James Bowman said, "the only place that respectable conservatives, wishing to avoid the taint of racism or anti-Semitism or nativism or protectionism, have to go is to the neocons."

Either way conservatives have been rolling over for more than a generation and what we have is a neocon Republican Party that is the patriotic American 1960s Democrat Party. Today's democrat leaders are Marxists.

Conservatives (paleocons ?) are being, as Jonah Goldberg demands, dumped into the dust bin of history. The Marxists are winning.

Regardless, I am absolutely convinced that no one not the patriotic neocons or the "evil" paleocons can have discouse with today's liberals / leftist secular internationalists. The Marxists' aim is to destroy our sovereignty one bite at a time or all at once.

There is no peaceful solution. What ever it takes to bring it on. Let's get it over with. It is part of the war to defend against terrorists whom the left feeeeeeeeeeeeels are fighting against the "root cause" of all the world's problems, us.

46 posted on 09/17/2003 5:41:36 AM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael
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To: Cacophonous
continues to ignore the principled (McClintock) conservatives

That's a leap. McClintock's principles are forged in superfolous words that have never been matched by action. He can't get decent Bills out of committee after he introduces them, the budget is still a mess after 20+ years of McClintock and he's running an intramural Gubenatorial campaign. The only cause of his that has flourished is Indian Gaming.

I'll borrow a phrase from the Ravencliff reservation to describe Tom's principles as I see them. "Heap big smoke but no fire."

47 posted on 09/17/2003 6:08:17 AM PDT by RGSpincich
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To: RGSpincich
Right.

And Arnold's political record of accomplishment is the passage of an NEA multi-hundred million dollar wet dream of an afterschool babysitting program.

Spare us.
48 posted on 09/17/2003 6:14:37 AM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: EternalVigilance
So, the President of the United States was a victim? It wasn't his fault, that he broke his 'no new taxes' promise, that he signed the quota bill, that he signed the Clean Air Act and foisted the Americans with Disabilities Act upon us? It's the fault of a newspaper columnist and cable news talk show host? Alllllrighty then.
49 posted on 09/17/2003 6:14:37 AM PDT by Jabba the Nutt
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To: Jabba the Nutt
Uhmm...I never said any of that...
50 posted on 09/17/2003 6:15:46 AM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: onyx
Oh. Sorry about that. It's a 'separated at birth' comparison of Cruz Bustamante
and Mr. Spacely, the President of Spacely Space Sprockets from the cartoon
The Jetsons.

51 posted on 09/17/2003 6:16:15 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP (Check out the Texas Chicken D 'RATS!: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/keyword/Redistricting)
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To: JohnHuang2
Pat Buchanan's primary challenge to President George H.W. Bush in 1992 bled the incumbent and opened the door to Perot. Perot, of course, put Clinton in the White House

In reality, Bush is completely responsible for his own loss.

52 posted on 09/17/2003 6:21:49 AM PDT by PuNcH
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To: EternalVigilance
You guys give an ineffective legislator a pass because he talks a good show. He has alienated his own party in Sacramento, he is laughed at and used by Democrats and he doesn't know how to gain a consensus. The legislature will not magically begin working with the guy, he'll be forced to govern by referendum and initiative. The paid signature gatherers full employment act in the making.
Of course Tom would have to figure out how to fund the initiatives. Who do you suppose has that kind of wampum on hand?
53 posted on 09/17/2003 6:25:19 AM PDT by RGSpincich
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To: RonDog
If Pat Buchanan put Ginsburg and Breyer on the Supreme Court, then the logical questions is this: Who REALLY put David Souter, Anthony Kennedy, Sandra Day O'Connor, and John P. Stevens on the liberal court?

I think the answer is three Republican presidents, but I could be wrong, Hugh.
54 posted on 09/17/2003 6:27:08 AM PDT by Theodore R.
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To: Cacophonous
Another really bad GOP campaign was Dewey in 1948. He was picking potential Cabinet officers when he should have been challenging HST issue by issue.
55 posted on 09/17/2003 6:29:03 AM PDT by Theodore R.
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To: RGSpincich
Well, your guy will be working with the RAT legislature on their mutual left-wing agenda, so your shots at Tom don't sway me much at all.

Consensus is only a good thing when it is a consensus to do the right thing.
56 posted on 09/17/2003 6:30:21 AM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: EternalVigilance
Sad that you virtually only write as a fool on this topic, when I think you are capable of better.

I shall continue to try, to strive failingly, to live the truth that "Christian" and "self-obsessed, self-righteous, short-sighted, vicious, fickle, shallow, scorched-earth fool" are not synonyms.

Dan
57 posted on 09/17/2003 6:40:22 AM PDT by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: JohnHuang2; EternalVigilance; MeeknMing; ETERNAL WARMING; ambrose; Robert_Paulson2; FairOpinion
<< [P J Buchanan is] the man who put Ruth Bader Ginsburg and Stephen Breyer on the U.S. Supreme Court.

Only the politically inclined get it:

Pat Buchanan's primary challenge to President George H. W. Bush in 1992 bled the incumbent and opened the door to Perot.

Perot, of course, put Clinton in the White House, and Clinton put those justices on the highest court. >>

Thanks, FRiend and Brother John.

Mr Hewitt gets it -- but the "principled" die hards, who [And just how appropriately this word fits!] COLLECTIVELY fulfil Joe Stalin's prophesy that when Communists and/or any other of evil's various manifestations' hang the last of US, it will be with ropes sold them by America's useful idiots -- never will.

With useful idiots like McLintock's, Buchanan's and/or Perot's -- and or, come to that, Preston Manning's -- plus a couple of million thrown-in criminal-alien and/or other felonious votes and the consequential fiat bench -- North America's lunatic left-wing fringe liberals are a lead-pipe cinch to erect many many many more treasonous criminal gangs of the KKKli'toon variety.
58 posted on 09/17/2003 6:43:07 AM PDT by Brian Allen ( Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Brian Allen
You are so right, as Hewitt is.

Look, can you imagine yourself in a contest, "you" being a conservative conservative... and you notice that all the Usual Suspects — the liberal pols, the commentators, the reporters, the (for crying out loud) LA Times — they all keep saying nice things about YOUR guy, and keep featuring him, and keep focusing their vitrol not on him but on his GOP colleague, whom they tirelessly "diss" and "expose" and portray in the most negative light....

Can you imagine yourself in that situation and NEVER ONCE DEEPLY THINKING, "Hmmm... this smells fishy. What am I missing?"

I can't.

Dan
59 posted on 09/17/2003 6:47:02 AM PDT by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: Brian Allen
You are so right, as Hewitt is.

Look, can you imagine yourself in a contest, "you" being a conservative conservative... and you notice that all the Usual Suspects — the liberal pols, the commentators, the reporters, the (for crying out loud) LA Times — they all keep saying nice things about YOUR guy, and keep featuring him, and keep focusing their vitrol not on him but on his GOP colleague, whom they tirelessly "diss" and "expose" and portray in the most negative light....

Can you imagine yourself in that situation and NEVER ONCE DEEPLY THINKING, "Hmmm... this smells fishy. What am I missing?"

I can't.

Dan
60 posted on 09/17/2003 6:47:02 AM PDT by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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