KFI: ACLU Used a Study Paid for By Touch-Screen Voting Company (Piles of B.S. going on)

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[Cinnamon Girl]

Henry Brady of UC Berkeley apparently did the study, using information from the 2000 election in Florida. The census data was superimposed on the voting data in order to determine race (I guess.) If people deliberately didn't vote for Bush or Gore, for example, that was counted as an error in the study, even though it probably wasn't. Also, the Florida there isn't a uniform standard for tallying punch cards, but in CA we do have clear definitions of what can and cannot be counted.

AND, the ACLU may have misrepresented the information from this study, especially with regard to applying it to CA. Of the counties that use punch card ballots, the highest rate of error was in counties which are predominantly white.

[Cinnamon Girl]

Eric Leonard, the KFI reporter, is saying that no one has looked at this info yet, and he even showed it to the LA Times.

[Cinnamon Girl]

Do you even know what you are commenting on?

[woodyinscc]

Eric Leonard, the KFI reporter, is saying that no one has looked at this info yet, and he even showed it to the LA Times.

Leonard has to be quite an optimist, considering the number of card carrying ACLU members on the Times staff!

[Cinnamon Girl]

The two counties, in northern California are more than 80% white and had a 3% error rate. In other words, the ACLU's claim that minorities were being disenfranchised by the punch cards has, of course, NO BASIS.

Eric Leonard said he called the ACLU for an explanation.

Sequoia Voting Systems in the touch screen voting company which FINANCED the STUDY.

[Dr. Eckleburg]

Computerized voting is the biggest fraud since "Calories Don't Count."

I've used a punch card in four states across this country and it worked for every black, white, young, old, man, woman and democrat who walked into the voting booth.

Punch cards can be tallied and re-checked for accurracy by human beings, one at a time, just like we all learned in second grade.

Computer voting in as honest as the programmer who controls the computer's electrical circuits.

Who do you trust? Them or your lying eyes?

DiCaprio to Hanks: "Just tell me what you want me to see."

[Cinnamon Girl]

Think about what a nightmare the touch screen system is going to be when it takes over next year. Talk about opportunities for mistakes.

[Phantom Lord]

There is a big rift growing in the RAT camp. Half want to move to electronic touch screen voting and the other half wants to avoid that voting system at all costs. Of course, the latter half are conspiracy nuts who thinks Karl Rove is behind the companies that make the machines and is having them rigged to elected republicans.

[Regulator]

Even debating the reality of the plaintiff data is worthless. The entire complaint is a fraud designed to play a part in a political deal, which is the collusion of the screaming madmen on the 9th with the Democrat Hit Men, i.e., ACLU, SVREP, etc.

The concept that an election of the people can be held hostage before there has been any complaint about its outcome is simply unprecedented in American history. I've never heard of it, except possibly during Reconstruction.

[Political Junkie Too]

As opposed to how I'd hear reports on the 11:00pm news that another box of ballots was found in a closet at a school, and...

-PJ

[Shermy]

Punch cards can be tallied and re-checked for accurracy by human beings, one at a time, just like we all learned in second grade.

Same with optical scanning.

The electronic voting-fraud lobby thought up a doozy - give the voter a "paper receipt." This receipt isn't retained by the registrar, and of course has no bearing on whether the votes are or will be accurately counted in the computer itself, or later. But it's a little piece of paper supposedly to give us peace of mind.

[Califelephant]

Here's the website of the company that financed the study:
http://www.sequoiavote.com

[Cinnamon Girl]

Not long ago, my credit card wouldn't be accepted at a store because Visa had blocked it. When I called to find out what happened, it turned out a charity I give to by being automatically charged every month had a computer malfunction and charged me about 100 times in one day before Visa put a stop to it. And that was a total accident. Just how many times do you think Howard Dean could be voted for by accidental computer glitch?

[Phantom Lord]

Or about the democrat poll worker found with a voting machine in his trunk!

[Cinnamon Girl]

I just noticed I didn't even mention this was about the 9th Circus court decision yesterday.

[Califelephant]

By the way, I have nothing against Sequoia Voting Systems, they're just trying to sell their voting machines. But how could the 9th Circuit unquestioningly accept a study saying punch card machines suck when that study was financed by a company trying to sell a competing product? These 9th Circus judges are a joke and a disgrace.

[CityOnAHill]

The two counties, in northern California are more than 80% white and had a 3% error rate. In other words, the ACLU's claim that minorities were being disenfranchised by the punch cards has, of course, NO BASIS.

Ummm... I believe in California whites are a minority.

This just shows that the ACLU is not representing minorities. They are representing Democrats.