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MSNBC- Recall election to be delayed
Pete Williams MSNBC ^ | Pete Williams

Posted on 09/15/2003 10:18:32 AM PDT by Ragirl

California Appeals Court - Recall should be blocked!!!

(Excerpt) Read more at msnbc.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: 2003election; 9thcircuit; 9thcircuitcourt; circus; circustent; davisrecalleelection; democrap; dirtytricks; election2003; floriduhagain; graydavis; impeachthe9th; outofcontrol; recall; thefixisin
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To: carton253

So 2,000,000 Californians who signed the petitions to recall Davis are now being disenfranchised by the ACLU and the 9th Circuit Court.

541 posted on 09/15/2003 12:11:45 PM PDT by A_Niceguy_in_CA
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To: mhking
Busamante looks like Mr. Spacely from the Jetsons.
542 posted on 09/15/2003 12:12:48 PM PDT by Dog
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To: Peach
A school is being named after him.

Yeah, in Compton, the gang-infested sewer where the Venus and Serena Williams' sister was killed yesterday morning. Somehow seems a fitting place for a school named for Bill Clinton.

543 posted on 09/15/2003 12:12:56 PM PDT by Wolfstar (NO SECURITY = NO ECONOMY)
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To: Congressman Billybob; Grampa Dave; snopercod; Dog Gone; Carry_Okie
Well, well, well... Looky what I just found on CBS.MarketWatch.com's BigCharts.com website!!!

2:55PM Little reaction to court ruling in Calif. muni bonds by Rachel Koning

CHICAGO (CBS.MW) -- California bond yields showed little reaction Monday to a federal court ruling delaying the state's recall because of controversy surrounding punch-card ballots and the lengthy candidate list. Municipal-bond traders said that in general the market doesn't view the ballot issue as having a lasting impact on the recall. One trader said intermediate-maturity notes were trading at about a 40-basis-point spread over lower-risk Treasury debt, near levels seen before the court ruling was announced. One analyst said the market has been showing limited reaction to daily changes in the election outlook, as confidence among bondholders has grown for the recall's being voted down Oct. 7 or the election of Democrat Cruz Bustamante, the state's lieutenent governor. In either case, then, the muni market would be more upbeat that state budget progress would win out over political wrangling, the trader said.

544 posted on 09/15/2003 12:13:20 PM PDT by SierraWasp (Repub RINO's... If at first you don't succeed... Give Up!!!)
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To: Congressman Billybob
Could the Secrtetary of State offer a remedy which would not "violate" equal protection, but still keep the election date of October 7? In order to make things equal for every voter in California, consider switching to hand-counted, paper ballots for everyone?
545 posted on 09/15/2003 12:13:40 PM PDT by Cooter
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To: aristeides
Thanks aristeides should add CBS to...
546 posted on 09/15/2003 12:14:50 PM PDT by Major_Risktaker (Every action has an equal and opposite reaction.)
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To: MamaLucci
bingo...
clink has 'war gamed' this well... including the spiteful selfish fight coming from the extreme right of the party...
THEY will support this delay as it gives theirman more time to attack the leader....

new democrat tactics for both sides of the political spectrum...
1. delay election till things are better for your team.
2. count till you win, recount as needed...
3. in the meanwhile ram through as many partisan laws and exec orders as you can, to try and maintain power.
547 posted on 09/15/2003 12:15:51 PM PDT by Robert_Paulson2 (robert the rino...)
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To: Mo1; prairiebreeze
See my post #333 on this thread for a table with the names of all active 9th court justices and who appointed them. The odds of getting a Clinton or Carter appointee to hear a case on that court are very high.
548 posted on 09/15/2003 12:16:24 PM PDT by Wolfstar (NO SECURITY = NO ECONOMY)
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To: carton253
The ACLU signed off on requiring the punch card ballots to be replaced in time for the 2004 Presidential Election.

Now they want their agreement take effect before their agreed legal deadline because one of their hero's might lose power.
549 posted on 09/15/2003 12:16:32 PM PDT by A_Niceguy_in_CA
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To: Congressman Billybob
You're clearly right here: the California courts, including the liberal California Supremes, have tossed every challenge to this election. Unlike some of the states in the South, where the feds had jurisdiction over elections because of past de jure segregation and discrimination, California has not such history, and no such prior fedederal claim of jurisdiction.

The troubling precedent, however, in the back of my mind is Baker v Carr, in which states' bicameral legislatures on the model of the US - ie reps by population and senators by county -- bit the dust- Frankfurter's dissent pointed out, correctly IMHO, that in Colegrove (which Baker overturned) several justices were clear that there was no jurisdiction for the feds to intervene in the drawing of state districts, etc.

550 posted on 09/15/2003 12:18:08 PM PDT by CatoRenasci (Ceterum Censeo [Gallia][Germania][Arabia] Esse Delendam --- Select One or More as needed)
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To: Dog
These are the kind of justices that Schumer, Leahy, Clinton, Daschle, Boxer, et al, think we should have over the likes of Miguel Estrada.
551 posted on 09/15/2003 12:18:19 PM PDT by My2Cents ("I'm the party pooper..." -- Arnold in "Kindergarten Cop.")
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To: Cinnamon Girl
In COMPTON, which has their own school system, and it sucks.

Yep, Compton, California is the PERFECT place for a "BJ Clinton School".
No place on earth better illustrates the abject failure of the first black president.
552 posted on 09/15/2003 12:19:10 PM PDT by MamaLucci ( Clinton met with Monica more than he did his CIA director.)
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To: goodnesswins; PhiKapMom
I'm curious to know how all those minorities feel about being called stuuuuuuuuuuuuuupid!

553 posted on 09/15/2003 12:19:13 PM PDT by shellylet
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To: Congressman Billybob
It seems like they could toss the ACLU case on "ripeness" grounds.
554 posted on 09/15/2003 12:19:15 PM PDT by ambrose (The Rats Have Done It Again!)
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To: Peach
Thank's Peach!

One more ~c~ word I can add to the list.

"Crimes"

Funny thing about the ~C~ word in politics.

California...CNN...CBS...Castro...Carter...
Clinton's...Crimes...Chavez...Chads...Communism

555 posted on 09/15/2003 12:19:32 PM PDT by Major_Risktaker (Every action has an equal and opposite reaction.)
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To: mwl1
so true, mwll, just as it is sickening to see the Dems crow over a "victory" by preventing a majority of Senators from confirming a judge with the highest ABA ranking...disgraceful.
556 posted on 09/15/2003 12:20:00 PM PDT by Keith
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To: Peach
How can they say they'll refuse to take the case, saying it is a "state issue," when it's a federal court that has mucked up the process?
557 posted on 09/15/2003 12:20:17 PM PDT by My2Cents ("I'm the party pooper..." -- Arnold in "Kindergarten Cop.")
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To: Congressman Billybob
my considered opinion in THIS case is that SCOTUS will throw out this Ninth Circuit Order on an Emergency Basis. The Order to do so will be signed by Justice O'Connor

I hope you are right. I suspect that, if that does happen, she will start by issuing an emergency stay order in her capacity as Circuit Justice for this circuit, and refer the matter of granting-cert-or-not to her brethren ... although if O'Connor wants cert, it's a good bet that fellow Californians Kennedy and Rehnquist will go along. That's three outta four. No way would none of the other 6 join in. (That's IF the 9th Cir. ruling's already been stayed. I think there'd be a problem getting cert if there's no stay and the election's cancellation has "taken," such that a reversal wouldn't allow the election to be put back on for October.)
558 posted on 09/15/2003 12:20:26 PM PDT by pogo101
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To: johnny7
SCOTUS will wash their hands of this like they did in NJ

I think you are wrong. SCOTUS will hear this and probably by the end of the week. The difference in NJ was that the State Supreme Court had made a ruling according to State Law which was upheld by the feds. Here the State Surpreme Court has already stated that the election must go on and the Feds have overturned the State Courts. Thus it is now a federal issue. My guess is that it will be 9-0 to overturn this stupid 9th Circuit. The election will go on.

559 posted on 09/15/2003 12:20:44 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (Milquetoast Q. Whitebread is alive!)
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To: Wolfstar
Sean Hannity just made a good point

Say this 9th Circus is correct .. then that would mean that Davis is not a legit elected Gov. since there are so many problems with this ballot system

560 posted on 09/15/2003 12:21:10 PM PDT by Mo1 (http://www.favewavs.com/wavs/cartoons/spdemocrats.wav)
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