Angry Democrats: Florida and Beyond--Why is the left so mad?

Wall St Journal ^ | 9-15-03 | ROBERT L. BARTLEY

[SJackson]

Rep. Dick Gephardt castigates President Bush as "a miserable failure," and Sen. John Kerry calls for "regime change" in the White House. Even while distancing himself from the rest of the dwarves over Iraq, Sen. Joe Lieberman calls George Bush a "cowboy," echoing Sen. Mark Hanna's description of that miserable failure Theodore Roosevelt.

[MissAmericanPie]

Projection is right. Demoncrats have done their level best for decades to destroy every facet of this government. Vote fraud on every level, from phoney votes to illegal vote provided by their illegal invasion.

Voting districts that wind like a snake across the voting map, is what they call legitmate representation of minorities.

Selling our nation out to every undermining treaty that comes down the pike from KOYTO to NAFTA, and kissing up to every America hating "ally" that wants to stick a knife in our backs.

[crz]

There is soon to be a three party system. One will be the Puritan Conservative Republican party where they will not tolerate any other view outside their own. Then there will be the Republican party which will allow views expressed openly and consider all. Then there is/will be, the Nationalist Socialist Democratic Party which is already in being and run by the Clintons.

[Let's Roll]

Yep, not only did they sell their souls trying to steal the WH in 2000, trashing the US and FL Constitutions along the way, but they sold them for nothing! They live with that everyday - hence their corrosive hatred for GWB.

[sauropod]

Who cares? I'm still mad about them trying to steal the election in 2000 and what His Slickness was able to get away with in 1998. He should be in prison.

[chimera]

Which brings up an interesting thought. I can't remember the last time a Democrat presented an actual plan to do something. They seem to have two tactics: attack Republicans, and attack the elections that put Republicans in power. I think they might need to rethink this approach (if Hillary lets them).

You are correct that the Rats generally excel at obstruction and destruction, but there is a paradigm we can reference that indicates what Rats will do when in power, and it ain't pretty. Recall the first two years of that long and dreary period of darkness known as the Clinton presidency. Remember that the Rats ran everything. Republicans didn't have the votes in either the House or the Senate to stop anything the Rats wanted to do that required only a simple majority vote. What did we get? Higher taxes, gays in the military, more abortions, scandal after scandal in the Executive Branch, a bunch of women and kids toasted in Waco, a debilitated military, and we almost got the national nightmare of Hillary Care. It was only the remarkable victory of the GOP in the '94 elections that stopped the madness, and on that score we have to be grateful to Gingrich and the others, in spite of their faults, for their prescience in coming up with the Contract With America idea of nationalizing what traditionally would have been locally dominated elections. That effectively neutered (if it only would have done so in other ways) the runamok liberalism of the Clinton presidency.

[sauropod]

"it is simply not true that the Supreme Court let Mr. Bush steal it."

This needs to be said over and over again.

IIRC it was a Florida 'Rat State Assemblyman that was found with a "Votamatic" in the trunk of his car.

Think his name was Schlossburg or something like that.

[leprechaun9]

The answer is very simple: The essence of the DEMOCRAP Party is practicing the Politics of FEAR, DIVISION, and HATRED!

Remember back in 1993 when little Dickie Gephardt went to the elementary school in Virgina and said if the Republican Budget passes, then the children at that school would no longer have lunches provided. What he didn't count on was the next day the Principal of that school told the press that their lunch program was not funded by the Federal Government and the disposition of the Budget would have no impact on their program. ANOTHER LIE by DICKIE!

[ClearCase_guy]

You are correct about how they would govern. I was making an observation about how they campaign. Traditionally, political parties tell people in advance what they will do ("a chicken in every pot"). The Democrats stopped doing that a long time ago. Their plans exist, I'm sure, but they're fairly hidden. The Democrat campaign is one of attack and destroy -- nothing about proposing or building.

[sauropod]

Sign me up for the Puritans then. I'm sick and tired of RINOs selling me out.

[chimera]

I think they know that most people wouldn't buy it if they did. Mondale got slaughtered in '84 when he said what he would do: raise taxes. Everyone knew that's what they wanted to do, but when he said it outright it just confirmed what we already knew. Likewise, in '72, when McGovern said he'd go to Hanoi and beg on his knees for the POWs to be released, he got slaughtered in a similar manner. When Rats say what they will do, they get clobbered, because its so far out of the mainstream.

So they have to fall back on dodging and weaving, lying, co-opting others' ideas, and general obfuscation. Of course, the Rats have had and always will have willing accomplices in the lamestream media, and an electorate that is, by and large, I'm sorry to say, somewhat lazy and unwilling to work any more than necessary to get information other than what is spoon-fed to them by the networks.

That's why I have to laugh when Rats and other pundits complain about the results of the '02 elections and why the reason the Rats didn't do too well was because they didn't do a good job of articulating or getting their message out. I think they lost quite a few races precisely because they did get their message out, and people didn't like it.

[Freedom4US]

The issue of "dimpled chads" was never really explained to my satisfaction - my pet theory is something along the lines of voter fraud. Punching a hole through a single piece of paper is well within the grasp of anyone who should be allowed to vote.

However - Attempting to spoil the vote by ramming a coat hanger or similar tool through hundreds of ballots would probably result in quite a few "dimpled" votes. I'd sure like to see some good reporting on what really happened down there.

[Publius6961]

It has developed over a generation.
They are literally foaming at the mouth because:

The progressives lied and bribed their way into power.
The power corrupts and in their case permanently.
They instituted doublespeak successfully: taxes are "investments" and as long as they mean well, the tax well is bottomless.

They started losing elections.
Their corrupt lying approach became too ridiculous to be believable.
They lost the 2000 election and rage set in because:

They assumed that the voters forgot this is a representative Constitutional Republic, not a democracy.
They assumed that the transformation was comple and permanent.

Their rage is evident daily.
Here in California it is "assumed" that their philosophy reigns because the predominant bumper stickers are all green, "touchie-feelie" and "progressive". A bigger lie could not have been invented by Orwell.

Conservatives and moderates dare not enjoy the simple act of using bumper stickers because their vehicles will certainly be damaged and vandalized.
The left assumes no one is aware of this. I certainly am. And I suspect millions of other also, they just express their belief at the ballot box.

Discussing issues with these people is an excercise in frustration. Anger is just below the surface, no exceptions.

And finally the personal anger that they project 24/7 is a deep and constant hatred for Bush and all his cabinet. It is freaky, unhealthy and pathological.
The only real surprise for me is that they don't destructively act on that anger more often than they do.

[Publius6961]

There is soon to be a three party system. One will be the Puritan Conservative Republican party where they will not tolerate any other view outside their own. Then there will be the Republican party which will allow views expressed openly and consider all.

Give it a rest.
That is not only an ignorant personal opinion and inaccurate, but wanders dangerously close to the subject of this thread.

I for one reject a label. Been a registered democrat all my life, but voted for Nixon, Reagan and both Bushes, and had loads of entertainment in the process.

This label fetish and party uber alles approach to persuasion is puerile and counterproductive.

[Snuffington]

Even Richard Nixon persuaded reporter Earl Mazo to abandon the story that John F. Kennedy's forces stole the 1960 election in Illinois and Texas.

Well, yeah. And for a very obvious reason. Once the parties start giving tacit approval to "conspiracy to disenfranchise" stories, and aim them at their political rivals, it quickly erodes confidence in our elections, and ultimately our entire system of government. Nixon may have been a crook, but he wasn't a nihilist or a demogogue.

That's the real source of Democratic anger. Their leadership has now adopted tactics that cause their base to fear they have been disenfranchised. The fact that it isn't true doesn't matter. Politics in democracies is largely emotional. A small minority ever sees through the party rhetoric to grasp truths that run counter to it. If Howard Dean says its so, no Wall Street Journal article to the contrary will have much impact.

[Gritty]

BTTT

[RoseofTexas]

The reason they are spewing their vemon is plain to see! They are getting away with it and the pubbies are in the closet hiding!! The RATS always knew the pubs are spineless, look what they did to Estrada! Let's just call the pubs...CLOSET REPUBLICANS! All talk and NO BITE!

[Snuffington]

This label fetish and party uber alles approach to persuasion is puerile and counterproductive.

It also misunderstands the notion that parties in the United States represent a myriad of interests - never a monolithic block of opinion. That's why parties have the ability to change their platforms without dissolving.

Parties are essentially no more than loose alliances whose diverse memnbers temporarily agree about how to get certain things done. People who are shocked to find disagreement within their own party don't understand what parties are.

[mtbopfuyn]

"Not only in California but across the nation, he continued, "the right wing of the Republican Party" has conspired "to remove democracy from America."

Is that Hillary I see with her hand up the backside of Dean's suit and moving his mouth?

[StriperSniper]

For the life of me, I can't understand their devotion to this false messiah. He has betrayed everyone who has ever placed any faith in him. He betrayed his wife, family, country, and his party--always doing what was best for his twisted ego.

You may have answered your own question with "always doing what was best for his ". What are the mantras that are pounded into our heads from the media and in the schools, "If it feels good, do it", "whatever it takes to win", "we live in the worlds greatest democracy" and the like. Hearts and minds have been changed by forty years of leftists brainwashing. It doesn't get everyone, it's very uneven, but it is approaching critical mass. We are on the verge of falling into a tyrany of the majority that will see the voice of freedom die, or be forced to fight back, maybe with bloodshed. If it comes to that, count me in with Patrick Henry.

[nosofar]

Is that Hillary I see with her hand up the backside of Dean's suit and moving his mouth?

That may not be all she's moving.