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Scholars criticize 'imperial' presidency [Bush has expanded the imperial presidency]
The Grand Rapids Press ^ | Saturday, September 13, 2003 | Steven Harmon

Posted on 09/13/2003 9:27:45 AM PDT by FourPeas

Scholars criticize 'imperial' presidency

Saturday, September 13, 2003

By Steven Harmon
The Grand Rapids Press


ALLENDALE -- Thanks to a pliant Congress and an apathetic public, President George W. Bush has expanded the imperial presidency, perhaps placing the United States in a more vulnerable position than before the Sept. 11, 2001 terrorist attacks.

That was the general view of panelists at a conference on the presidency Friday, hosted by Grand Valley State University's Hauenstein Center for Presidential Studies.

By running roughshod over world opinion in the runup to the Iraq war, Bush now faces world isolation as the occupation has gotten messy, said Polly Diven, a GVSU political science professor.

"Sept. 11 provided the president with nationalist support to pursue an imperial presidency, and ... he headed down the unilateralist path," Diven said. "In my mind, the Bush administration is making the United States and the world more dangerous; it's a recipe for more terrorism, not less."

The conference, "After September 11: George W. Bush and the 21st Century Presidency," featured a panel of presidential scholars, including University of Louisville professor Gary Gregg, Catholic University professor Mark Rozell, and GVSU professors Diven and Randall Doyle.

Roger Porter, a Harvard University professor of business and government and former economics advisor in the Ford, Reagan and first Bush administrations, gave the conference's keynote address at the Gerald R. Ford Museum Friday night.

Porter, in an interview with The Press, said the growing power of the presidency is a long-term trend that has "increased the challenges for providing leadership in a system that's very divided."

He said "the jury is still out" on whether the imperial approach Bush has taken on the war on terror will prove successful.

"How he deals with that is a major remaining challenge," he said. "We are an impatient people who want to see quick victories. But we've got a big job in creating the kind of government we want in Iraq. We'll see how skillfully Bush attacks this."

Domestically, Bush has expanded his powers by way of secrecy orders and claims of executive privilege, said Rozell, an editor and contributing writer in a new book, "Considering the Bush Presidency."

Some of those expanded powers came before Sept. 11, when Congress failed to successfully challenge Bush when he withheld documents of past administrations.

The most well-known instance of the Bush administration's assumption of executive privilege has been Vice President Dick Cheney's refusal to divulge even the barest details of his Energy Task Force meetings, Rozell said.

But after the terrorist attacks, Bush assumed even more powers, Rozell said.

"That's what happens when the president gets the upper hand in a crisis," he said. "Bush pledged to be more open, but he's embarked on a secrecy-driven administration. Those reporters who cover the White House say this is the most secretive of all. They are obsessed with secrecy."

Doyle, a visiting professor of history at GVSU, said Bush has been able to expand his reach because there is no "counterforce" or coalition of countries that can stand up to the United States, and "there's no domestic opposition. The Democratic party has rolled over."

But, as Bush is facing criticism for the growing troubles in Iraq -- more soldiers have died since he announced the end of major combat operations -- Porter said he expects him to rebound.

"I think he is nimble enough to make the adjustments," Porter said.



TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Michigan; War on Terror
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For your reading pleasure. Tell me, is academia out of touch?
1 posted on 09/13/2003 9:27:46 AM PDT by FourPeas
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To: FourPeas
Crap.
2 posted on 09/13/2003 9:29:02 AM PDT by SunStar (Democrats piss me off!)
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To: FourPeas
An apathetic public? What rock do these guys hide under?

Prairie
3 posted on 09/13/2003 9:29:50 AM PDT by prairiebreeze (Brought to you by The American Democratic Party, also known as Al Qaeda, Western Division.)
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To: FourPeas
Uninformed and hopelessly wrong.
4 posted on 09/13/2003 9:30:55 AM PDT by MEG33
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To: FourPeas
If its so friggin' imperial why can't he get his Judicial nominees into office?

Why can't he get a conservative Education Bill through Congress?

Why is his new EPA Administrator being held up by Hillary Klintoon?

Why isn't Zacharias Mousaoui dead?

Inquiring minds want to know.

5 posted on 09/13/2003 9:36:11 AM PDT by DoctorMichael (TAG! You're it!)
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To: FourPeas
Maybe I missed it. How is it that "Grand Valley State University" is a hotbed of scholarship at all, much less a center for study of the American Presidency. I'm not likely to take with much seriousness a "scholarly" program from Slippery Rock, either.

Does the term "ankle biters" come to mind? These are small and irrelevant people, trying to pump up their importance by attacking someone who is large and important. It is the same motive as would-be presidential assassins, except that academics are to timorous to actually "do" anything.

Does that about cover the waterfront?

Congressman Billybob

Latest column, "Paying the Wrong Piper," discussion thread on FR. Article is also on ChronWatch.

6 posted on 09/13/2003 9:36:17 AM PDT by Congressman Billybob (Everyone talks about Congress; I am doing something about it.)
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To: FourPeas
Some of those expanded powers came before Sept. 11, when Congress failed to successfully challenge Bush when he withheld documents of past administrations.

The most well-known instance of the Bush administration's assumption of executive privilege has been Vice President Dick Cheney's refusal to divulge even the barest details of his Energy Task Force meetings, Rozell said.

I see. Those must be the American, er, Bushian abuses of power that caused 911.

7 posted on 09/13/2003 9:39:00 AM PDT by mrustow (no tag)
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To: FourPeas
Doyle, a visiting professor of history at GVSU, said Bush has been able to expand his reach because there is no "counterforce" or coalition of countries that can stand up to the United States, and "there's no domestic opposition. The Democratic party has rolled over."

Scary stuff. The Leninist adjunct profs are even allowed to rot the brains of kids at Podunk U in flyover country. I believe ole' Vlad did say he'd sell us the rope we'd hang ourselves with.

8 posted on 09/13/2003 9:40:39 AM PDT by DaBroasta (Liberal Democrats can give Al Qaeda hate lessons)
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To: MEG33
Uninformed and hopelessly wrong.

I expected it to be much worse than it was.

9 posted on 09/13/2003 9:45:38 AM PDT by NutCrackerBoy
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To: DoctorMichael
But after the terrorist attacks, Bush assumed even more powers, Rozell said.

"That's what happens when the president gets the upper hand in a crisis," he said. "Bush pledged to be more open, but he's embarked on a secrecy-driven administration. Those reporters who cover the White House say this is the most secretive of all. They are obsessed with secrecy."

Sure. We should let our enemies know all our business. I once heard Ramsey Clark -- long before I found out he was a communist -- demand that the government's books be open, for all the world to see. I thought he was just naive and well-meaning. I didn't know then that he was a traitor.

Doyle, a visiting professor of history at GVSU, said Bush has been able to expand his reach because there is no "counterforce" or coalition of countries that can stand up to the United States, and "there's no domestic opposition. The Democratic party has rolled over."

Aside from the lie about there being no "domestic opposition," this guy is complaining that America isn't losing. Another traitor. He wants America to be destroyed, and replaced with a system where people of his ilk would be shot on a regular basis.

10 posted on 09/13/2003 9:49:43 AM PDT by mrustow (no tag)
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To: DaBroasta
The Leninist adjunct profs are even allowed to rot the brains of kids at Podunk U in flyover country.

I didn't see any mention of adjunct profs. The guy you cited is a "visiting prof." There's no such thing as a visiting adjunct professor, and while some adjuncts manage to read papers at conferences, when they do, they are treated like third-class citizens, and virtually never cited in academic or news reports.

11 posted on 09/13/2003 9:57:07 AM PDT by mrustow (no tag)
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To: FourPeas
Thanks to a pliant Congress and an apathetic public, President George W. Bush has expanded the imperial presidency, perhaps placing the United States in a more vulnerable position than before the Sept. 11, 2001 terrorist attacks

Why then have there been no more planes flying into building since Prisident Bush started his "imperialist" campaign?

12 posted on 09/13/2003 9:59:19 AM PDT by antienvironmentalist
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To: FourPeas
why no BRAFFFF ALERT?
13 posted on 09/13/2003 10:00:59 AM PDT by TYVets ("An armed society is a polite society." - Robert A. Heinlien & me)
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To: TYVets
why no BRAFFFF ALERT?

Prof. Brafff couldn't make this "scholarly conference". :)

Besides, I thought the title pretty much spoke for itself.

14 posted on 09/13/2003 10:12:08 AM PDT by FourPeas (Syntax, schmintax.)
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To: FourPeas
39 countries have troops and/or support teams in Iraq, yet these "scholars" claim that Bush is a "unilateralist."

Yawn... How will such "scholars" explain Polish troops in the coalition if they are the ones who end up capturing Saddam hussein?!

"Oh, it's unilateral except for Poland, Great Britain, Spain, Italy, Japan, Australia, and 33 other countries" the uneducated morons will spout.

15 posted on 09/13/2003 10:27:46 AM PDT by Southack (Media bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: FourPeas
He seems to have changed his tune.

http://www.ksg.harvard.edu/news/backup/experts/porter_state_of_the_union_012903.htm
16 posted on 09/13/2003 10:53:01 AM PDT by damncat (Your brain on liberalism, get the picture?)
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To: FourPeas
"Grand Valley State University will be host for "Responses to Terrorism," a panel discussion featuring political science professor Polly Diven, an expert on U.S. foreign policy, and Jasiu Milanowski, a longtime peace activist and licensed ship captain."

Based on her running buddies . . . "a longtime peace activist and licensed ship captain" . . . who for some reason seems to be qualified to serve on panel discussions involving terrorism at GVSU, I would also have to question whether Mizzzzzzzzzzzzz Diven is actually "an expert on U.S. foreign policy." I suspect this is the kind of expert who would fit right in with the State Department.

17 posted on 09/13/2003 10:56:52 AM PDT by geedee (Hillary and Beelzebub were conjoined twins.)
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To: geedee
I'd be interested in the source for that. I happen to know that a professor from GVSU is on leave working for the Department of Homeland Defense. I, of course, assume that he's participating....
18 posted on 09/13/2003 11:07:48 AM PDT by FourPeas (Syntax, schmintax.)
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To: FourPeas
I just did a Google search on her because I always get a tad bit curious when these so-called experts sound off. I'm old and fat and retired and usually more than a bit cynical and I like knowing where these tree-huggers are coming from. I found it here.

It was posted in November of 2001 -- which, to me, is too damn close to 9-11 to be inviting a "longtime peace activist" and licensed sea captain to be at the helm of a panel discussion on terrorism.

But that's just me.

19 posted on 09/13/2003 11:18:05 AM PDT by geedee (Hillary and Beelzebub were conjoined twins.)
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To: mrustow
Earlier on the article reads--... GVSU professors Diven and Randall Doyle.

You pointed out--The guy you cited is a "visiting prof." There's no such thing as a visiting adjunct professor, ...

Thanks for being so precise on the semantics. I guess I don't understand how a guy can be considered a professor at the college and yet be visiting. Nonetheless he's still a Leninist.

20 posted on 09/13/2003 1:02:25 PM PDT by DaBroasta (Liberal Democrats can give Al Qaeda hate lessons)
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