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1 posted on 09/12/2003 3:19:24 PM PDT by RonDog
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To: AnnaZ; Mercuria; feinswinesuksass; DoughtyOne; Cinnamon Girl; Tony in Hawaii; Bob J; diotima; ...
Here is the FULL TEXT of that resolution, with the disputed text highlighted:

Resolution
The September 11th Sunrise Vigil:
Lest We Forget
WHEREAS, the attacks against the United States of America on September 11, 2001 mark the beginning of our homeland defense against terrorism;

WHEREAS, the attacks have caused U.S. citizens to denounce any group, organization, or nation who dare to threaten or carry out acts of terror against America and her allies;

WHEREAS, the attacks have forced all of us to be more vigilant against any such acts of terror in the future and be ready to defend ourselves at all times;

WHEREAS, in remembering the victims of September 11, 2001 and their loved-ones, friends, and business associates, we also remember and acknowledge the truth as to who the perpetrators themselves claim to be, that is, Muslims, carrying out the will of the Deity of their religion known as Islam;

WHEREAS, backed and fully supported by all citizens in Los Angeles, we encourage Muslim-Americans to increase and intensify their open and public denouncements of those members within their religion and umma (community) who continue to engage in acts of terror throughout the world;

WHEREAS, in order to keep alive the memory of the victims of September 11, 2001 and the damage done to our nation, "September 11th Sunrise Vigil" will take place this September 11, 2003;

WHEREAS, the "September 11th Sunrise Vigil" will be the first memorial event of the day in the City of Los Angeles which was inspired and orchestrated by Homeless activist, Ted Hayes and a small band of Homeless people from Justiceville/Homeless, USA, The Dome Village, and Rabbi Allen Freehling;

WHEREAS, the participation of Homeless people in the event presents a gesture of patriotism from the poorest of the poor and demonstrates to every U.S. citizen that love of country must transcend every level of American society;

NOW, THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED, that by the adoption of this resolution that the Los Angeles City Council and the Mayor recognize the "September 11th Sunrise Vigil" that will be held this September 11, 2003 on the South Lawn of City Hall and joins in remembering the thousands of lives taken from us on that infamous day of September 11, 2001, acknowledging as a city that we will never forget this tragic day in our country’s history.

PRESENTED BY:
Jan Perry
Councilwoman, District Nine

2 posted on 09/12/2003 3:21:54 PM PDT by RonDog
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To: RonDog
Don't you know ... Only Christians are capable of evil.
3 posted on 09/12/2003 3:22:01 PM PDT by Mark was here
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To: boris
See also:

Motion Tying Muslims to Terror Dies
Los Angeles Times ^ | 09-12-2003 | Jessica Garrison
Posted on 09/12/2003 7:36 AM PDT by boris

Motion Tying Muslims to Terror Dies

Council members Perry and Villaraigosa express regret over 'divisive' resolution blaming group for 2001 attacks and other incidents.

By Jessica Garrison, Times Staff Writer

Los Angeles City Council members Jan Perry and Antonio Villaraigosa said Thursday that they had made a mistake when they signed a resolution blaming Muslims for the Sept. 11 attacks and other acts of terrorism.

The motion, which the elected officials said had been drafted by an advocate for the homeless, Ted Hayes, and which Villaraigosa said he had signed without reading carefully, said that "in remembering the victims of Sept. 11 we also remember and acknowledge the truth as to who the perpetrators themselves claim to be, that is, Muslims, carrying out the will of the Deity of their religion known as Islam."

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5 posted on 09/12/2003 3:25:08 PM PDT by RonDog
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There are a lot of horses' patoots in public office. It seems, however, that the dumbest of the dumb tend to congregate on the City Councils of America's largest cities. Any Council member who finds this Resolution "offensive" as written is not unly unfit to be on the Council, he/she is unfit to be a toilet attendant in a city park. IMHO.

Congressman Billybob

Latest column, "Paying the Wrong Piper," discussion thread on FR. Article is also on ChronWatch.

6 posted on 09/12/2003 3:27:39 PM PDT by Congressman Billybob (Everyone talks about Congress; I am doing something about it.)
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To: RonDog
Villaraigosa agreed and fretted: "They put motions like this in front of you all the time. They put it in front of me, and I signed it."

Now there's the real story that should be investigated.

7 posted on 09/12/2003 3:27:56 PM PDT by mtbopfuyn
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To: RonDog

10 posted on 09/12/2003 3:39:09 PM PDT by StatesEnemy
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To: RonDog
acknowledge the truth as to who the perpetrators themselves claim to be, that is, Muslims,

CLAIM to be. If Islam is a religion of peace then these people are CLAIMING to be Muslims and are not actually Muslims (whether it is a relion of peace is for another discussion).


WHEREAS, backed and fully supported by all citizens in Los Angeles, we encourage Muslim-Americans to increase and intensify their open and public denouncements of those members within their religion and umma (community) who continue to engage in acts of terror throughout the world;

Is that too hard to ask? Don't ask terrorists to stop their attacks on civilians or your fellow citizens. Every time I read this crap from Islamic centers or organizations about how racist we are I wonder where these people come from.
11 posted on 09/12/2003 3:39:09 PM PDT by bitcon
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"It is singling out Muslims as a suspected group."

Who SUSPECTS Muslims of having planned and carried out the 9/11/01 attacks?? We all KNOW Muslims planned and carried out the 9/11/01 attacks!

14 posted on 09/12/2003 3:44:09 PM PDT by cake_crumb (UN Resolutions = Very Expensive, Very SCRATCHY Toilet Paper)
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To: RonDog; mtbopfuyn
Mtbopfuyn, your name may be nearly impossible to spell, but you are absolutely correct.

At the event, Ted Hayes singled Jan Perry out for praise for having apparently shopped it around to other councilmembers, encouraging them to sign.

Does this mean Jan Perry would promote a proclamation that she didn't even read?

Folks, we have a City Council of morons. If they want to be politically correct morons, they surely should know enough about Ted by now to read every word of what he puts in front of their faces.

If nothing else, this is a great joke on the City Council.

D
16 posted on 09/12/2003 3:53:37 PM PDT by daviddennis
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To: RonDog
I see nothing wrong in the wording or insensitive of the resolution. The resolution states that the terrorist claim to be Muslims carrying out the will of the Deity of their religion known as Islam. Is this true or not?
Next, the resolution 'encourage Muslim-Americans to increase and intensify their open and public denouncements of those members within their religion and umma (community) who continue to engage in acts of terror throughout the world.' Maher Hathout fumed and was outraged. I would like to ask why? Then it was said that 'it is completely contrary to the spirit of Los Angeles', if this is so then I would like to ask 'just what is the spirit of Los Angeles'?
Now, for my own opinion and experience, I haven't seen or heard any Muslim-Americans speak out against any terrorist but I have heard and seen them speak out against Americans and America. I have seen them disrespect the American Flag in the schools. I have also drawn some conclusions about 'TWO NAMED HYPHEN' Americans which in their mind, they are the first name first and then an American. Think about it for a minute about anyone that uses the 'TWO NAMED HYPHEN', and listen to them talk. Heck, these people may not have ever been out of their state in their lives and don't know anyone in another country and may be more than twice removed from their country but to listen to them talk, America is the bad guy or America should do more in the way of money, goods and lives. Then, if it's another country that America is helping and it's not their first of TWO NAMES then America is still the bad guy. My thinking, is for these 'TWO NAME HYPHEN' Americans to drop the first name and become true Americans, that put Americas' interest and American citizens FIRST.
19 posted on 09/12/2003 6:32:42 PM PDT by AIC
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I don't want to here anymore about how loony liberal Mn. is!
20 posted on 09/12/2003 9:58:13 PM PDT by Valin (There is all the difference in the world between treating people equally and attempting to make them)
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To: RonDog
There you are, councilman mulehead Villaraigosa admits signing resolutions all the time without reading them.
How many of these morons will you elect before asking yourself..."Do I know who I just voted for?"
The sad part is they killed the bill. How's this for sensitivity? Muslims planned, committed and cheered 911.
The local silence is deafening. Of course, why attract attention while you're building islam in America.
22 posted on 09/13/2003 1:03:17 AM PDT by recallin
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