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LA Times Recall Poll Methodology (Important Information Regarding Today's Recall Poll)
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| September 12, 2003
| The LA Times
Posted on 09/12/2003 10:47:50 AM PDT by Pubbie
Edited on 09/12/2003 10:54:09 AM PDT by Admin Moderator.
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Earlier this week, Field Research Corp. released a poll on the election to recall Gov. Gray Davis. Today, The Times Poll comes out with somewhat different results.
The two polls are more alike than different. Both found the same lineup among the top candidates to replace Gov. Gray Davis Lt. Gov. Cruz Bustamante in the lead with support from 30% of likely voters surveyed, Arnold Schwarzenegger in second place with 25% and state Sen. Tom McClintock in third place.
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TOPICS: Front Page News; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: poll; polls; recall
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For the record; The LA Times poll is more recent than the Field Poll, and in the LA Times poll, Ueberoth comes in fourth place, and get's 8% of the vote.
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posted on
09/12/2003 10:47:52 AM PDT
by
Pubbie
To: fieldmarshaldj; ambrose; goldstategop; Sabertooth; TheAngryClam; kellynla; PeoplesRep_of_LA
*Ping*!
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posted on
09/12/2003 10:48:50 AM PDT
by
Pubbie
("Last time I checked, he doesn't have a vote" - Tom DeLay on Ari Fleischer's demand for Tax-Rebates)
To: Admin Moderator
LA Times ping.
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posted on
09/12/2003 10:49:41 AM PDT
by
TexasNative2000
(You may disagree with me, but I will fight for your right to be in error.)
To: Pubbie
Thanks again, Pubbie. October 7, like all elections in CA, depends on turnout and the independent voters who account for almost TWENTY PERCENT of the registered voters. But we still have to wait for the Ninth District to make a decision...this whole process may be pushed back to March 2004!!!
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posted on
09/12/2003 10:55:48 AM PDT
by
kellynla
(USMC "C" 1/5 1st Mar Div. Viet Nam '69 & '70 Semper Fi VOTE4MCCLINTOCK http://www.tommcclintock.com)
To: Pubbie
This is nothing BUT LA TIMES FAKE POLL....
There is no way recall is 50-47%.....
LA times wants Cruz to win, so they are Fooling Republicans to vote for McClintock so guy CRUZ WINS !!!
Looks like republicans will elect CRUZ
Also, Peter U at 8% ..Yeah Right..he's out of the race and his voters will not vote for McClintock or Cruz
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posted on
09/12/2003 10:57:43 AM PDT
by
KQQL
(^@__*^)
To: deport
@
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posted on
09/12/2003 10:58:15 AM PDT
by
KQQL
(^@__*^)
SurveyUSA 09/10/2003 SurveyUSA 08/26/2003
Remove Davis 62% Remove Davis 64%
Keep Davis 37% Keep Davis 35%
Schwarzenegger 39% (-6%) Schwarzenegger 45%
Bustamante 29% (0%) Bustamante 29%
McClintock 16% (+5%) McClintock 11%
Ueberroth 6% (0%) Ueberroth 6%
Huffington 3% (0%) Huffington 3%
Other 4% (0%) Other 4%
Undecided 3% (+1%) Undecided 2%
Certain Voters (MOE 3.7%)
-Ueberoth is out of the race
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09/09/2003 Field Poll 08/15/2003 Field Poll
Yes on Recall 55% Yes on Recall 58%
No on Recall 40% No on Recall 37%
Bustamante 30% (+5%) Bustamante 25%
Schwarzenegger 25% (+3%) Schwarzenegger 22%
McClintock 13% (+4%) McClintock 9%
Ueberoth 5% (0%) Ueberoth 5%
Arianna 3% (-1%) Arianna 4%
Camejo 2% (0%) Camejo 2%
Likely Voters (MOE 4.5%)
W/O MCLINTOCK:
Schwarzenegger 33% - Bustamante 31%
-Ueberoth is out of the race
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LA Times 09/12/03 08/00/03
For Recall 50% For Recall 50%
Against Recall 47% Against Recall 45%
Cruz 30% (-5%) Cruz 35%%
Arnold 25% (+3%) Arnold 22%
McClintock 18% (+6%) McClintock 12%
Ueberoth 8% (+1%) Ueberoth 7%
Arianna 3% (0%) Arianna 3%
Camejo 2% (0%) Camejo 2%
Likely Voters (MOE 3%)
-Ueberoth is out of the race
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Stanford/Knowledge Networks poll
09/10/2003
Recall leads 62% - 38%
Arnold 40%
Cruz 28%
McClintock 8%
Ueberoth 7%
Arianna 1%
Others 7%
Likely Voters (MOE 4.3%)
-Ueberoth is out of the race
@ LA TIMES POLL IS NOT INLINE WITH 3 OTHER POLLSTERS!
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posted on
09/12/2003 10:59:06 AM PDT
by
KQQL
(^@__*^)
To: KQQL
This poll is consistent with Survey USA putting McClintock at 16% whereas the LA Times has McClintock at 18%.
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posted on
09/12/2003 10:59:20 AM PDT
by
Pubbie
("Last time I checked, he doesn't have a vote" - Tom DeLay on Ari Fleischer's demand for Tax-Rebates)
To: Pubbie
You trust LA TIMES?...........LIBERAL PAPER OF THE YEAR////////
Oh Please give me a break....!
RECALL has to be atleast be at 55%/////////////
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posted on
09/12/2003 11:01:00 AM PDT
by
KQQL
(^@__*^)
To: KQQL
You trust LA TIMES?...........LIBERAL PAPER OF THE YEAR//////// You trust Arnold Schwarzenegger?................LIBERAL REPUBLICAN OF THE YEAR//////////
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posted on
09/12/2003 11:07:03 AM PDT
by
PeoplesRep_of_LA
((R)nold called me a "Right wing crazy" because I have a problem with his position on Prop 54)
To: KQQL
If the LA Times is underestimating the strength of support for Recall, then that means they are underweighting the number of Conservative Republicans that will show up.
And if they are underestimating the strength of Conservative turnout then the Times is ALSO underestimating the strength for McClintock (And to a lesser extent Arnold).
So McClintock would probably be HIGHER than it is in this poll.
Also ALL polls show McClintock has been gaining support, and Bustamante falling and Arnold flat.
The Trend is clearly on Tom's side.
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posted on
09/12/2003 11:12:54 AM PDT
by
Pubbie
("Last time I checked, he doesn't have a vote" - Tom DeLay on Ari Fleischer's demand for Tax-Rebates)
To: PeoplesRep_of_LA
Hi, just me your tail here...
Arnold Schwarzenegger has given absolutely no reason to doubt him as you have. Maligning someone's character when they have done nothing wrong, well, to me that is just a travesty. Character assassinations are not a good way to build support for your candidate McClintock (or your second choice, Bustamante'). Now the Times, well they certainly have the track record to build a case against trust.
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posted on
09/12/2003 11:16:17 AM PDT
by
Registered
(Gray Davis won't be baaaaahhck)
To: KQQL; PeoplesRep_of_LA
All right then, the Lincoln Club of Orange County, an organization of establishment GOP money types and not particularly conservative, commissioned their own poll that has McClintock at 19%.
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posted on
09/12/2003 11:16:59 AM PDT
by
ElkGroveDan
(It's time for Arnold to stop splitting the Republican vote and step aside for the good of the party)
To: KQQL
It's amazing what lengths the "vote-for-mcclintock-even-it-means-a-bustamante-win" crowd will go to to try and further their holelessly losing candidate.
I'm convinced they're all members of...
.
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posted on
09/12/2003 11:17:26 AM PDT
by
South40
(Vote Mcclintock, elect bustamante.)
To: Pubbie
"...they are underweighting the number of Conservative Republicans that will show up. "They all are underweighting what is happening under the radar, as well. Interesting voter registration numbers from Dan Weintraub's blog yesterday:
"The numbers say that since May, Californias voter rolls have expanded by a net of about 194,000. Of those, more than half, or about 94,000, have been either minor party or decline-to-state registrations. About 80,000 have registered Republican, while 20,000 have registered as Democrats. The separate categories are net figures and thus could also reflect changes in registration of those who were already on the rolls. The numbers for August were even more striking, according to this analysis. There were 72,000 new voters in that month alone. The change in party registration, meanwhile, breaks down this way: 39,000, or 55 percent, were third party or independent registrations. About 23,000, or 32 percent, were Republicans. And 9,000, or 13 percent, were Democrats. "
This race is unlike any other.We are definitely in for some ride in the coming weeks--and who knows where we will end up....
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posted on
09/12/2003 11:19:00 AM PDT
by
eureka!
(Rats and Presstitutes lie--they have to in order to survive.....)
To: Pubbie
I will always remember the polls during the Reagan / Carter election that showed Carter with a slight lead over Reagan.
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posted on
09/12/2003 11:23:28 AM PDT
by
BJungNan
To: Registered
Hi, just me your tail here...Can you say desperate Registered? Jay's art has really struck a nerve. FYI, he saw what you posted about him, any more critiques please email him directly at jdyson@sacredcowburgers.com, if you have the conviction.
Arnold Schwarzenegger has given absolutely no reason to doubt him as you have.
That's the funniest thing you've put together in a long time. Exactly why SHOULD I trust a guy who's openly dreamed of political power for decades, jumps in the race, then claims "he'll have to research" every issue that could lead to a policy decision by answering directly.
Character assassinations are not a good way to build support for your candidate McClintock
Another funny thing to say, so your pictures saying McClintock's purpose in the race is to elect Bustamante go over your head in being an example of flagrant hypocracy?
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posted on
09/12/2003 11:30:41 AM PDT
by
PeoplesRep_of_LA
((R)nold called me a "Right wing crazy" because I have a problem with his position on Prop 54)
To: Pubbie
Previously posted to Rabid Republican...
In a review of the poll, many questions pop up...
In the .pdf file:
1. Question 2 uses the word "seriously" when referring to the "wrong track", influencing voters that the questioner thinks what is happening is not serious (still got a 74 percent wrong track, though RATS only 65 percent).
2. Questions 3 and 4 are missing. What were they? Were they questions like "do find it unfair that Republicans are overturning an election? (they did something similar to that last time)
3. Question 7 is missing...suspicious...
4. In question 8 they did not rotate the list of candidates, Bustamante was number 1 and McClintock was number 2...A way of influencing people is to put the answers you are looking for at the beginning or the end. In this case Bustamante was first, Ueberroth was last, and Arnold was in the middle. Note this way of asking got Ueberroth 8 percent...
Not much of an analysis, but this in the Slimes poll and we can trust the outcome is skewed...
DD
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posted on
09/12/2003 11:31:25 AM PDT
by
DiamondDon1
(Official Tombot, Member VRWC)
To: South40
It's amazing what lengths the "vote-for-mcclintock-even-it-means-a-bustamante-win" crowd will go to to try and further their holelessly losing candidate. I'd say the same thing about your ilk shoving this liberal disaster down our throats, however I'm consistent with my stated principles, how 'bout you?
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posted on
09/12/2003 11:34:12 AM PDT
by
PeoplesRep_of_LA
((R)nold called me a "Right wing crazy" because I have a problem with his position on Prop 54)
To: ElkGroveDan
All right then, the Lincoln Club of Orange County, an organization of establishment GOP money types and not particularly conservativeWell, when (R)nold tells them about "reform" for Workers Comp, repealing the Car Tax (which he asked John & Ken right after his announcement when asked "What is the car tax?" Hillarious) and "fighting" against the energy contracts and SB60---I think all those things should be good enough for the GOP money types to vote for him, right?
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posted on
09/12/2003 11:37:47 AM PDT
by
PeoplesRep_of_LA
((R)nold called me a "Right wing crazy" because I have a problem with his position on Prop 54)
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