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CA: GOP faithful to push McClintock to quit
Sac Bee ^ | 9/12/03 | Alexa H. Bluth

Posted on 09/12/2003 8:27:14 AM PDT by NormsRevenge

Edited on 04/12/2004 5:57:22 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

After weeks of pressure to drop out of the recall race, state Sen. Tom McClintock is about to feel the pinch in an unlikely place: a gathering of faithful Republicans who agree with him about issues and revere him as one of the party's truest members.


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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: arnold; calgov2002; faithful; fanatical; feckless; mcclintock; moderate; push; quit; recall; schwarzenegger
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To: Munson
I agree with McClintock on evreything except abortion and homosexual issues.

Arnold has a lot of the same views as you. If I believed in pro-abortion and pro-homosexual issues I would vote for Arnold. But there are a lot of social conservatives who are pro-life and against homosexuality and are ignoring Arnold's views just because he has an "R" by his name and this concerns me.

41 posted on 09/12/2003 9:06:05 AM PDT by truthandlife
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To: Texas_Dawg
Can you show me a poll that demonstrates this in the current race?

I don't form my beliefs from polls. You said McClintock is unelectable and therefore should drop out of the race. I would point out that you have also said that Arnold is similarly unelectable if McClintock stays in the race. Therefore, the Republican Party in California has a choice.

You say that Arnold will win if McClintock drops out. I'm saying that I believe a conservative like McClintock could win if Arnold drops out.

Given a choice, I would go with the conservative since I don't share your fear that a conservative can't win in California.

42 posted on 09/12/2003 9:06:50 AM PDT by rockinonritalin
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To: sd-joe
And I believe you're sitting there smoking crack.

The FACTS are that all of Arnolds positions on major issues are identical to the rats.

If anything it's you that's a rat. Certainly not me. I'm behind the true republican not the imposter.
43 posted on 09/12/2003 9:08:24 AM PDT by Bikers4Bush
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To: Bikers4Bush
It is a tough ideological struggle. I've been a McClintock supporter.

I don't believe Arnold is a Communist, where Bustamante is. I don't think McClintock can win in a Communist majority state, composed primarily of symparthizers and dupes.

44 posted on 09/12/2003 9:10:52 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: Texas_Dawg
>>>Right... because the California GOP is a model of political efficacy.

This is all about sticking by your principles and not allowing liberalism a victory by making a bad decision and electing Arnold Schwarzenegger the next governor. This is all about using good judgment and voting for the conservative Republican in the recall race, Tom McClintock. California Republicans have been handed a unique opportunity here. They have a opening and need to come together as a voting block. With a little crossover voting by independent minded conservatives, they can elect McClintock. It may be a long shot, but its worth the effort. Instead Californian Republicans are taking the easy way out and choosing a pop cult icon and Hollywood superstar to lead their state, at a crucial time in history.

In my political book, that's a bad decision and poor judgment. Pathetic and shameful behavior.

45 posted on 09/12/2003 9:14:02 AM PDT by Reagan Man
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To: Bikers4Bush
Ohio, if thats where you're from, doesn't have the same demographics as Cal. The last conservative to win here was R.R. - 35 years ago. Pete Wilson was decent, but by then, the democrats had taken control of the State Senate and Assembly.

A R.Regan Republican cannot win here anymore.

Say Arnie crys 'Uncle". I believe his support will break - Best Case - 70 - 30 for Tom. The rest will NEVER vote for a social conservative. So will vote - No Recall and/or Bustemonte.

Tom ends up with around 40% - best case for him. Which is about the percentage of registered Repubs in CAlifornia.

Ultimate Result - Tom loses, Repubs lose, California loses. And the "true conservatives" get to keep whining. It's what they are best at.

46 posted on 09/12/2003 9:14:32 AM PDT by muleskinner
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To: christynsoldier
Your post has been echoed about a million times. The infection of the Left-wing into the Republican Party is supported and promoted by many Freepers. Hope you have a good memory that's all that will be left of the GOP. It will only slide from here picking up steam.

Wait until you get a look at the '08 candidates. You will be forced to vote for garbage "or else you will get Hillary" And further dilute all that is good about the GOP.

Now is time to go to battle and fight these "Republican"-Liberal Supporters. They will bring the USA down faster than any other means that one could imagine.

47 posted on 09/12/2003 9:17:03 AM PDT by Afronaut (All Liberals are Evil: R or no R)
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To: NormsRevenge
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48 posted on 09/12/2003 9:17:07 AM PDT by DoctorZIn
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To: muleskinner
You're so insightful. Much better to roll over and play dead for the liberals eh?

As for your claims of "whining", who's side are you really on?
49 posted on 09/12/2003 9:18:41 AM PDT by Bikers4Bush
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To: muleskinner
And for the record I am from Ohio.

Some of us have the sack to admit where we're from.
50 posted on 09/12/2003 9:20:59 AM PDT by Bikers4Bush
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To: Reagan Man
McClintock would have a good chance in Colorado and if you were talking about Colorado, I'd agree with you.

Too many touchy-feely types in Calif. now.

51 posted on 09/12/2003 9:20:59 AM PDT by muleskinner
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To: muleskinner
A R.Regan Republican cannot win here anymore.

What better time to re-introduce Reagan conservatism to the California voters than now. They are going to the polls to end the Davis disaster and choose a new direction. If the Republican Party does not stand up now and offer the voters a conservative option, what good are they? How different are they from the Democrats? The Republicans may win 1 statewide race with Arnold but they will be no closer to any future success than they were before.

52 posted on 09/12/2003 9:20:59 AM PDT by rockinonritalin
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To: Bikers4Bush
Who gives you the right to say who is a Republican and who is not? You can say Arnold is not a conservative but you cannot say he is not a Republican. We have Republicans from all spectrums of the political ideology. Let me remind you and others that Republican does not equal conservative. If it did, we would not get any candidates elected in some areas.

Some of you have to lose that idea that all Republicans have to be conservative or you all are going continue to cost Republicans more elections.

53 posted on 09/12/2003 9:21:38 AM PDT by PhiKapMom (Alpha Omnicron Pi Mom too! -- Visit http://www.georgewbush.com!)
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To: NormsRevenge
I've been saying this all along and it looks like the GOP is FINALLY going to FORCE McClintock to understand it...


McClintock is no idiot (Even though he may look like one)...

If he gets out of this race and allows Arnold to beat Bust-a-belt, he writes his own political ticket...And rightfully so.

If he stays in this race and costs Arnold the win, his political career is DEAD...And rightfully so.

He'll get out of this race.

Now we'll see if his RINO supporters will do like Arnold's supporters would do...Support the only REPUBLICAN candidate in the race.
54 posted on 09/12/2003 9:24:05 AM PDT by A Broken Glass Republican
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To: Reagan Man
This is all about sticking by your principles

I agree. Totally. It's all about selfish pride and not caring who is elected whatsoever.

55 posted on 09/12/2003 9:24:48 AM PDT by Texas_Dawg (Bush wins in 2004. I'll take any bet the Bush-haters want to offer me. Name your amount.)
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To: Texas_Dawg
Congratulations. You've just posted the stupidest pro-Arnold statement yet.

Some of us are just a little more concerned with what the candidate may actually do in office than what color his nametag is. That said, there are a lot of us McClintock supporters willing to vote for Arnold if need be to keep the office out of the hands of the actual Democrats (as opposed to Arnold who's merely 80% Democrat in his political stances); however, to keep harping that McClintock should drop out before the debate featuring the two of them just shows absoute cowardice; or maybe a fear that when push comes to shove, Arnold will demonstrate a total capitulation to Democrat policies, thus wiping out all rationale for any Republicans to vote for him (though never fear, it will lure at least as many liberals his way). A Republican name tag in the office is not going to save the state.

56 posted on 09/12/2003 9:24:48 AM PDT by william clark
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To: Bikers4Bush
Arnold is not a moderate Republican. He's a moderate democrat.

No he's not. He's a Moderate Republican. No matter how much the McClintock supporters try to slander him with other names...

57 posted on 09/12/2003 9:25:14 AM PDT by A Broken Glass Republican
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To: sd-joe
Arnold has always been a registered Republican. He supported and worked with Pres Reagan.

*cough* RINO *cough*. Also a lot of democrats worked with President Reagan, that means nothing.

58 posted on 09/12/2003 9:25:14 AM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: Bikers4Bush
Arnold is not a moderate Republican. He's a moderate democrat.

This would make an interesting vanity some time:
Should a person be able to choose their party affiliation or
should they have to request, be tested, and be granted affiliation?

CB^?

59 posted on 09/12/2003 9:26:25 AM PDT by Cyber Ninja (His legacy is a stain on the dress.)
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To: NormsRevenge
"Faithful" my butt.
60 posted on 09/12/2003 9:26:29 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (A faith in Justice, none in "fairness")
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