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McClintock: I'll Never Drop Out of Calif. Recall Race
Fox News ^ | Wednesday, September 10, 2003

Posted on 09/10/2003 6:25:13 PM PDT by yonif

Edited on 04/22/2004 12:37:07 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

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TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: ca; elections; mcclintock; recall; rino
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To: CatoRenasci
Doesn't anyone on FR have any perspective on California politics over the past 50 years?

Have been wondering that same thing myself! Make no sense to me at all! It is like they don't want to see the truth!

41 posted on 09/10/2003 7:21:43 PM PDT by PhiKapMom (Alpha Omnicron Pi Mom too! -- Visit http://www.georgewbush.com!)
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To: SpyGuy
Now, we all know that the lamestream media is controlled by the Left, particularly in California where it is the official propaganda machine of the Demoncratic Party. So why would they be wringing their hands over McClintock spoiling Schwarzenegger's campaign and BustaMEChA winning?

If you really believe that why do all the to California Democrat slimemasters go on TV and talk up McClintock and what a great guy he is and how is going to overtake Arnold? Everytime I see them on Hardball or some other program they are pushing Davis or Bustamante, they spend most of their time talking about McCLintock and how Arnold is cheating him, yada yada.

42 posted on 09/10/2003 7:23:47 PM PDT by Dave S
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To: yonif
Some lesser-known talkers (Hugh Hewitt especially, from what I hear on his show) have truly begun to villify McClintock for not being a good obedient Republican and stepping aside for the Big Ahnuld Machine.

L.A. drive-time chatters John and Ken (http://www.johnandkenshow.com) challenged a caller to go to joinarnold.com/en/agenda and pick out the aspect of Arnold's agenda that he didn't like. The caller seemed to have a hard time, but I didn't: http://www.joinarnold.com/en/agenda/arnoldsviews.php#F1

The man wants the federal government to pay the extra cost of imprisoning illegal aliens in American prisons?! Give me a break! We should "move on" from Prop. 187, which was approved by an overwhelming voter margin then lynched in the courts by a left-wing judge with NO APPEAL?

It is blatantly clear that a vote for either Bustamante or Schwarzenegger is a vote for alien amnesty, which in turn is a vote for more crime, more illegal drugs, poorer schools, more closed hospitals, more disease, further wreckage for the environment, and the continuation of the rapidly accelerating decline in quality of life for all Californians.

If dimbulbs like Hugh Hewitt, John Kobylt and Ken Chiampou would show a little support for the lone candidate capable of doing some true good for the state, rather than being hypnotized by Ahnuld-mania, McClintock would win by a healthy margin.

And it doesn't matter who the governor of California is; the hatred here for George W. Bush is absolutely incredible, and it would take a miracle for him to win this state in '04. Ahnuld alone won't be able to do it for him. Call me a pessimist if you want, but I actually live here and work amongst these socialist morons in L.A.
43 posted on 09/10/2003 7:25:21 PM PDT by longshot1980
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To: yonif
"McClintock told Fox News he disagrees with Schwarzenegger on a range of social issues and remains deeply suspicious about his commitment to fiscal reforms and holding the lid on taxes."

Arnold Schwarzenegger's views, in his own words:
VOTE TOM McCLINTOCK
44 posted on 09/10/2003 7:26:55 PM PDT by Duramaximus (Freedom Loving American Living In A State That Worships Socialism)
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To: Weimdog
My toys and you can't play with them.

After tonight it's clear that McClintock is a loser in every sense of the word.

45 posted on 09/10/2003 7:28:15 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (I'm voting for Arnold. Get over it already!)
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To: freedumb2003; joesnuffy
I've seen your posts before, Sink. This is really beneath you.

Criticizing Arnold's accent is racist.

Or stupid.

Arnold's worth a half billion dollars!

What's snuffy joe worth?

46 posted on 09/10/2003 7:28:42 PM PDT by sinkspur (Adopt a dog or a cat from a shelter! You'll save at least one life, maybe two!)
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To: freedumb2003
Actually, if you take into account his 'Catholic' postings, this is just par for the course.

For the uninitiated, Sinkspur is a resident of the Dallas-Fort worth area of Texas.

Many supporters of Rhino-Arnold reject posts from other than residents of California.

Any bets that they pass on these adhominums of Sinkspur?

Freegards,
Sursum Corda
48 posted on 09/10/2003 7:34:31 PM PDT by Sursum Corda (Pray for the restoration of the Mass of the Ages.)
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To: sinkspur
Criticizing Arnold's accent is racist.

Or stupid.

The question is whether he can overcome the mangling of a syllable or two -- and whether that gives him pause. But at least you attack the argument and not the delivery.

I think Arnold is right in not debating because he is the front runner. That is smart politics.

But it would not surprise me if his english proficiency is a small factor.

Also, Arnold's accent is a result of his country of origin, not his race (he would appear to be white). A xenophobe may have a problem with his accent, but a racist would object merely to his whiteness.

49 posted on 09/10/2003 7:37:39 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Peace through Strength)
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To: CatoRenasci
Doesn't anyone on FR have any perspective on California politics over the past 50 years?

Yes. I'm from San Diego and I'm not represented a Governor, two Senators, Federal or State Representatives, nor a city counselman. Sure, you bet I'm going to hold out for Conservative principles (NOT).

I don't see McClintock getting more votes than Arnold, if either of the other drops out. Arnold is getting new votes that would not exist, if he were not running and true conservatives are not so dumb that they wouldn't know what their only choices are.

I also don't see any political future for McClintock in the Republican Party if he rides this out to the end. The only good thing about his staying in a little longer is the Dems won't have time to change their campaign to save Davis, once the polls favor Arnold in a two man race.

50 posted on 09/10/2003 7:39:54 PM PDT by NJJ
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To: Registered
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SNORT... STOMP...

;-)

51 posted on 09/10/2003 7:43:21 PM PDT by SteveH (can't we all just get along???)
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To: Ex-Dem
McClintock on H&C(Says He's Still In, Its Early, But Will Back Arnie if Otherwise Cruz Would Win)

Completely incorrect. Hannity asked him many times, he flatly stated he would not drop out period.

52 posted on 09/10/2003 7:45:21 PM PDT by Hugin
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To: longshot1980
If dimbulbs like Hugh Hewitt, John Kobylt and Ken Chiampou would show a little support for the lone candidate capable of doing some true good for the state, rather than being hypnotized by Ahnuld-mania, McClintock would win by a healthy margin.

But they won't and they don't. John and Ken (and Handle in the AM if you get up that early) all acknowledge Tom's superiority. But they are also realists, who understand that a state stupid enough to put the Dims into power and to allow the legislature to spend us into a 3rd world country canNOT understand Tom's points. We are collectively a bunch of idiots. Asking Stephen Hawkings to address a kindergarden class will NOT make them physics professionals.

The reality is that we are so watered down that Tom is too smart for the room. I know many people who say that "all republicans are racists." Lots of them. So if the pig flies, you can't be upset if he doesn't stay up too long.

53 posted on 09/10/2003 7:47:04 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Peace through Strength)
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To: Sursum Corda; sinkspur
Many of us, myself included, are Native Californians although we no longer live there.

Sinkspur is an intelligent poster and his support of Arnold is in line with my own.
54 posted on 09/10/2003 7:47:21 PM PDT by annyokie (One good thing about being wrong is the joy it brings to others.)
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To: Sursum Corda
Any bets that they pass on these adhominums of Sinkspur?

Here's an ad hominem (notice the spelling):

Post to me, ping me. Otherwise, you're just an old gossip.

I can't vote in California, SC, so just cool your jets.

But I CAN post on FR, which I do, and will continue to.

I really don't care who you folks elect to be your governor.

I don't have to live under him. But, pomposity invites a sharp stick, and I've got a very fine point on my oak branch.

55 posted on 09/10/2003 7:54:25 PM PDT by sinkspur (Adopt a dog or a cat from a shelter! You'll save at least one life, maybe two!)
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To: sinkspur
Meow! Care for a bowl of milk?

Sursum Corda
56 posted on 09/10/2003 8:03:46 PM PDT by Sursum Corda (Pray for the restoration of the Mass of the Ages.)
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To: Registered
Welcome to the RINO Club re #51! You are among friends here along with some other better known "RINO's" like George Schultz, Hannity, Chris Cox, David Drier, Ann Coulter, Newt, and a host of others!

Believe I would rather be called a "RINO" then be on the same side as some of these McClintock supporters who love to call names! Sure sound like Clintonites to me! Maybe I am going to buy into Consort's calling them "Clinton Conservatives" -- they spin/call names just like a Clintonite!
57 posted on 09/10/2003 8:04:44 PM PDT by PhiKapMom (Alpha Omnicron Pi Mom too! -- Visit http://www.georgewbush.com!)
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To: NJJ
Howdy, neighbor! I'm in San Diego too. Your post is worth a repeat!

Yes. I'm from San Diego and I'm not represented a Governor, two Senators, Federal or State Representatives, nor a city counselman. Sure, you bet I'm going to hold out for Conservative principles (NOT).

I don't see McClintock getting more votes than Arnold, if either of the other drops out. Arnold is getting new votes that would not exist, if he were not running and true conservatives are not so dumb that they wouldn't know what their only choices are.

I also don't see any political future for McClintock in the Republican Party if he rides this out to the end. The only good thing about his staying in a little longer is the Dems won't have time to change their campaign to save Davis, once the polls favor Arnold in a two man race.


58 posted on 09/10/2003 8:07:36 PM PDT by onyx
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To: Sursum Corda
Meow! Care for a bowl of milk?

If you talk about a poster, ping them. It's rude to do otherwise.

59 posted on 09/10/2003 8:07:36 PM PDT by sinkspur (Adopt a dog or a cat from a shelter! You'll save at least one life, maybe two!)
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To: Registered
McClintock. What an arrogant jerk!
60 posted on 09/10/2003 8:07:59 PM PDT by veronica (http://www.majorityleader.gov/news.asp?FormMode=Detail&ID=123)
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