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Patrick J. Buchanan Explains "How Nations Perish"
WND.com ^ | 09-10-03 | Buchanan, Patrick J.

Posted on 09/10/2003 6:32:31 AM PDT by Theodore R.

How nations perish

Posted: September 10, 2003 1:00 a.m. Eastern

© 2003 Creators Syndicate, Inc.

Gray Davis is a desperate man. Facing recall, he has just put the safety of California motorists at risk in a naked bid to buy Hispanic votes. Davis signed into law a bill he had twice rejected, to allow illegal aliens to get driver's licenses.

One million illegals, many of them young, single males, will soon be on the roads of California. Inevitably, the toll of traffic dead will soar and California families will pay in the lives of loved ones so Davis can collect enough Hispanic votes to serve out his term.

The day Davis signed the bill, eight Democratic presidential candidates promised blanket amnesty to an estimated 10 million illegal aliens. Sen. John Kerry says he wants instant U.S. citizenship for illegals who have been here five years.

Politicians used to buy our votes with our tax dollars. Kerry & Co. are now trolling U.S. citizenship before an entire class of lawbreakers, to purchase wholesale the votes of the ethnic groups to which they belong. The Democratic answer to the invasion of America is: surrender. We are inviting what Arthur Schlesinger calls, "The Disuniting of America."

U.S. citizenship used to mean something. Now, all you need do is sneak in and lie about it, and in five years – if the Democratic Party prevails – you, too, can be an American citizen.

This is how countries cease to be – how they become little more than a geographical place where one happens to live or work.

What would be the effect of an amnesty for all illegal aliens?

It would send a message to all the good people in foreign lands who filled out all the forms and waited patiently for years to come to America to become citizens. That message: You were fools to obey the law. The lawbreakers who crashed the gates were the clever ones. For you are still there, and they are on a fast track to citizenship.

After amnesty, anyone who wants to live here would be stupid not to sneak in. If breaking into the United States is rewarded with permanent residency and citizenship – and access to all the social welfare benefits of the richest nation on earth – the 5 billion people now living in the Third World will say to one another: "What are we waiting for? Let's go!"

Illegals who become citizens can bring in wives and children. Amnesty will thus mean that legal – as well as illegal – immigration will soar. As new immigrants are mostly poor, the tax costs of Medicaid, welfare, schools, food stamps, earned income tax credits will soar. If you think California and the U.S. government have big deficits today, you ain't seen nothing yet.

Some businesses will benefit from the endless supply of low-wage labor. But U.S. workers – 3 million of whom have lost jobs in the private sector since Bush took office – will have to compete with millions of immigrants for the jobs that remain.

For high-school dropouts – black, white, Asian, Hispanic – who are citizens, amnesty means their road to the American dream will be as clogged and congested as a California highway at rush hour.

There are 33 million foreign born now in the United States. Half the people in L.A. County do not speak English at home. With the birth rate among native-born Americans below replacement level, our population growth is almost entirely among immigrants and foreign-born. Almost 90 percent of these are from Latin America, Asia, Africa and the Islamic world.

Not only have these folks never been fully assimilated in any First World country, they are coming to an America where the idea of assimilation is being rejected in favor of identity politics and ethnic entitlements. Naked appeals are now made to people based on race, ethnicity and national origin. Few object.

Indeed, Gray Davis and the "Amnesty Eight" Democrats are a perfect example. Americans know this. A majority wants immigration halted. A huge majority wants illegals sent back. In California, 60 percent voted to deny taxpayer-funded social-welfare benefits to illegals. Yet the pandering goes on. Indeed, President Bush may have incited it with his earlier talk of amnesty for Mexican illegals to President Fox.

But if Bush yields now to the temptation to ape the Democrats and pander to win the Hispanic vote, the price will be the alienation and demoralization of his political base.

What amnesty is ultimately about is whether America is still a country, whether we Americans are any longer a unique people. Or is America nothing more than the biggest 24-hour-a-day mall in the Global Economy, where anybody walks in and nobody cares?


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: amnesty; bush; davis; democrats; driverslicenses; ethnicity; hispanics; immigration; kerry; pandering; patbuchanan; republicans; schlesinger
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1 posted on 09/10/2003 6:32:31 AM PDT by Theodore R.
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To: Theodore R.
Good to hear from Pat on this issue. Isn't it pitiful to hear the 8 democrats pandering for the Hispanic vote and ignoring the wishes of the majority of Americans. Unfortunately, the President is going to follow suite on this issue. It really is time for a third party.
2 posted on 09/10/2003 6:40:25 AM PDT by clockwork
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To: Theodore R.
One million illegals, many of them young, single males, will soon be on the roads of California. Inevitably, the toll of traffic dead will soar and California families will pay in the lives of loved ones so Davis can collect enough Hispanic votes to serve out his term.

Pat's later points about American citizenship are well taken, but I don't see any logic in the above. What, Pat thinks these people aren't already on the roads? That people who defy immigration laws at the risk of their lives won't ignore traffic laws? No, the danger with the licensing is that California allows people to use their drivers licenses as proof of citizenship without requiring people to prove that they are citizens to get the license in the first place.

4 posted on 09/10/2003 7:01:27 AM PDT by RonF
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To: Theodore R.; billbears; 4ConservativeJustices
Some businesses will benefit from the endless supply of low-wage labor. But U.S. workers – 3 million of whom have lost jobs in the private sector since Bush took office – will have to compete with millions of immigrants for the jobs that remain.

Sorry, Pat, not "will have to compete," but ARE completing for those jobs. But, it's not just on this mundane level, for the college-educated too are watching their jobs flood out to Red China and India.

The founders of this nation saw problems and went against the grain to fix them--are we too far mortgaged privately to do more about this nation's demise than type on keyboards while at work?

5 posted on 09/10/2003 7:02:13 AM PDT by Ff--150 (we have been fed with milk, not meat)
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To: Theodore R.; Texas_Dawg; Poohbah
For high-school dropouts – black, white, Asian, Hispanic – who are citizens, amnesty means their road to the American dream will be as clogged and congested as a California highway at rush hour.

Who cares about dropouts?

Of course, the perpetually angry underachievers of American life are ol' Pat's prime constituency.

6 posted on 09/10/2003 7:07:17 AM PDT by Chancellor Palpatine (RINOs for Schwarzenegger - Sowell, Coulter, Friedman, Drier, Cox, Jarvis Foundation, Rohrbacher.....)
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To: Chancellor Palpatine
When do we learn how Pat Buchanan perishes?
7 posted on 09/10/2003 7:09:10 AM PDT by Texas_Dawg
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To: Theodore R.
One million illegals, many of them young, single males, will soon be on the roads of California. Inevitably, the toll of traffic dead will soar and California families will pay in the lives of loved ones so Davis can collect enough Hispanic votes to serve out his term.

What a stupid line. First off, they're already driving on California's roads. Is Patsie saying that carrying of Picture ID will make them more dangerous?

Second of all, "traffic accidents" do not cause nations to fall.

I'm really beginning to wonder about Pat's rationality.

8 posted on 09/10/2003 7:15:10 AM PDT by r9etb
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To: Theodore R.
The sovereignty ofa nation and it's citizens' unique rights are important. We lose sight of that with other arguments. Pat tries to say that but gets sidetracked. IMHO all the arguments about good people who wait on lines in other countries, vs. the illegals breaking our laws -- are also unfortunate distractions. If the illegals are just "law breakers" then you don't make the logical connection of throwing them out. Most criminals pay a fine or do a little time. The only important point is that they are non citizens. They are not Americans. They are Mexicans. etc and have zero rights here and should be removed.
9 posted on 09/10/2003 7:25:14 AM PDT by Williams
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To: Ff--150
For high-school dropouts – black, white, Asian, Hispanic – who are citizens, amnesty means their road to the American dream will be as clogged and congested as a California highway at rush hour.

Fixed it.

The founders of this nation saw problems and went against the grain to fix them--are we too far mortgaged privately to do more about this nation's demise than type on keyboards while at work?

Wanna buy a house? ;o)

Just kidding. You are correct, we - as a nation- are in debt, and the dims respond with promises of a bailout. One problem, bailouts cost money [meaning it will be taken from them that have and given to them that have not]. In answer to your question, I think many have changed their view of a benevolent government, and that increased resistance to the federal leviathan is forthcoming.

10 posted on 09/10/2003 7:26:28 AM PDT by 4CJ (Come along chihuahua, I want to hear you say yo quiero taco bell. - Nolu Chan, 28 Jul 2003)
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11 posted on 09/10/2003 7:46:40 AM PDT by Valin (America is a vast conspiracy to make you happy.)
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To: 4ConservativeJustices
I think many have changed their view of a benevolent government, and that increased resistance to the federal leviathan is forthcoming.

With all due respect, who, where, how, when is this forthcoming resistance going to come from?? The kooks, wackos, and warriors are getting old and need their Medicare and Social Security to get by on! The youngsters clearly no habla ingles. They ain't gonna upset this gravy train.

12 posted on 09/10/2003 7:50:09 AM PDT by Ff--150 (we have been fed with milk, not meat)
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To: Chancellor Palpatine
"Who cares about dropouts?"

I care about anyone who's vote could help undermine my freedom, and frankly, so should you.

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!

13 posted on 09/10/2003 7:51:01 AM PDT by wku man (Buccaneers 17, Eagles 0!!!! What do you have to say now, Stallone and Madden?)
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To: Theodore R.
Davis signed into law a bill he had twice rejected, to allow illegal aliens to get driver's licenses. One million illegals, many of them young, single males, will soon be on the roads of California. Inevitably, the toll of traffic dead will soar and California families will pay in the lives of loved ones so Davis can collect enough Hispanic votes to serve out his term.

Time for someone to step up to the plate......

14 posted on 09/10/2003 7:52:26 AM PDT by Joe Hadenuf (Stop it, your killing me.)
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To: Theodore R.
Check out When Nations Die: Ten Warning Signs of a Culture in Crisis by James Black. It is chilling.
15 posted on 09/10/2003 8:00:44 AM PDT by LiteKeeper
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To: Ff--150
With all due respect, who, where, how, when is this forthcoming resistance going to come from??

Folks that are reaching the breaking point - the ones that have been lied to and are PAYING for everything. And every BS-artist known as a politician just adds fuel to the fire. SS and other programs are a joke - the country is almost 30 TRILLION dollars in debt! That's over $107,000 per person. Who can pay that back!????? In 20 years, there's not going to be any socialized, medicine, welfare or SS or anything else. It will collapse unless something is done now.

16 posted on 09/10/2003 8:25:55 AM PDT by 4CJ (Come along chihuahua, I want to hear you say yo quiero taco bell. - Nolu Chan, 28 Jul 2003)
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To: 4ConservativeJustices
It will collapse unless something is done now

Exacto-moodo!!! It's gonna collapse by 2016 or so! Yet--yet--besides me and a handful of others on this forum, who's gonna agree with you, let alone act!?? That is why the investors and businessmen are setting up shop in India and China.

It's all over but the shouting!

17 posted on 09/10/2003 8:43:58 AM PDT by Ff--150 (we have been fed with milk, not meat)
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To: Ff--150
That's ok, didn't you the headline about the asteroid that's supposed to smack us in 2014? (Maybe it'll hit California!)

GW :)
18 posted on 09/10/2003 10:24:00 AM PDT by gregwest
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To: Theodore R.
"our population growth is almost entirely among immigrants and foreign-born. Almost 90 percent of these are from Latin America, Asia, Africa and the Islamic world"
19 posted on 09/10/2003 5:38:08 PM PDT by VU4G10 (Have You Forgotten?)
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To: r9etb
What a stupid line... I'm really beginning to wonder about Pat's rationality.

I situationally agree with most of what Pat says, and what he has had to say about President Bush and company. But this article struck me as just a long string of neat sounding sentences and slogans. I hate to say it, but sounds to me like Pat is losing it.

20 posted on 09/10/2003 9:25:32 PM PDT by jackbob
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