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Schwarzenegger brands Prop. 54backers as "right-wing crazies"
California Political News and Views | September 8, 2003 | Stephen Frank

Posted on 09/09/2003 7:07:37 AM PDT by sruleoflaw

I post this information with the following comments.

As Republicans and conservatives activists, we know that Mr. Schwarzenegger has refused to sign a no tax hike pledge, refused to take a position on California's Family Leave Act (a major job-killer), supports homosexual domestic partners (opposed by 61% of Californians), supports gay adoption, supports abortion, has said that Proposition 187 is history and that he doesn't mind illegal aliens staying here, and in an unbelievably inept statement, said he will ask the Democrat Legislature to repeal the law giving drivers licenses to illegal aliens (as if the Democrats John Burton and Herb Wesson will give him his request). There is only one way to stop drivers licenses for illegals -- the McClintock-California Republican Assembly referendum effort. AND NOW, AS THE TOPPER, Mr. Schwarzenegger has opposed Proposition 54 AND CALLED THE SUPPORTERS OF THIS MEASURE (WHICH INCLUDES THE CALIFORNIA REPUBLICAN PARTY) 'RIGHT-WING CRAZIES'.

I have one or two questions for Mr. Schwarzenegger's followers. Do you support Proposition 54? Does Proposition 54? Do you accept Arnold's name-calling toward me, you and others? Is Arnold's name-calling indicative of what he feels toward conservatives.

Mr. McClintock has offered to debate Mr. Schwarzenegger -- ONE ON ONE, MAN TO MAN. Let them debate...and then we'll choose a course of action.

California Political News and Views September 8, 2003 Published by Stephen Frank

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MAJOR STORY--ARNOLD CALLS SUPPORTERS OF PROP 54, TO END RACIAL PROFILING, "Right Wing Crazies".

Dear Political Activist:

Conservative elected officials, many of them, have endorsed Arnold. His reply to them? He calls them "right wing crazies". Why, because they oppose racial profiling and believe all people should be treated equally.

Arnold has come out against Prop. 54, which has been endorsed by the California Republican Party. Yet, Arnold calls supporters of the measure, including the California Republican Party, "right wing crazies." Also calling supporters of Prop. 54 (which ends racial profiling) "right wing crazies" are Cruz Bustamante and Gray Davis.

Why does Arnold have to name call? Is this how he is going to unify the Republican Party by name calling? Shame on him. He needs to apologize to everyone of his endorsers and the CRP for another example of outrageous conduct.

Here is the original of the story:

"Yesterday, a member of our staff attended an event at which Arnold Schwarzenegger was in attendance. Here is the exchange that took place:

Justin: "So I know you haven't made a decision on Prop 54--"

[I was going to go further and attempt to make our case when he cut me off right there.]

Arnold: "No, I have made a decision. I'm against it. It looks good on the surface, but when you study it you see its true intentions. It was a no-brainer, once I looked at all the reading and all the materials. I do a lot of work with after school programs, a lot of these kids are minorities, and we need to know how they're doing and bring them up to the starting line. It was a no-brainer. And if the right-wing crazies have a problem with that, so be it."

We are absolutely convinced of the fact that because Justin is black, Arnold presumed that he is one of those liberal "minorities" who wanted to hear that kind of patronizing message."

http://www.nationalreview.com/thecorner/03_09_07_corner-archive.asp#013121 ARNOLD & PROP. 54 [John J. Miller] Yesterday I named three things Arnold S. could to do to appeal to conservatives. I neglected to mention a fourth: Endorse Proposition 54, Ward Connerly's latest initiative, which would ban the state from collecting information about the race and ethnicity of its citizens. For a couple of weeks, AS has said he's studying Prop. 54 and would announce his decision before Election Day. Last night, however, Connerly emailed to say AS has come out against Prop. 54. The candidate also added this little flourish: "And if the right-wing crazies have a problem with that, so be it." It is becoming increasingly clear that there is no conservative case to be made for Schwartzenegger. The man has given us "right-wing crazies" almost nothing except the hope that he might win. Friends, this is the definition of a Pyrrhic victory.

Arnold should have read this before he spoke: 10 REASONS TO SUPPORT PROPOSITION 54 Prop 54 will bar the state and all local California governments from collecting racial data in the areas of public education, employment, contracting and most other government operations. Reasonable exemptions exist for medical research subjects and patients, data collection required by federal law or for federal funds, certain activities of law enforcement and the Dept. of Fair Housing and Employment. The state legislature, by a two-thirds vote and with the governor's approval, can vote to exempt any other reasonable area. This initiative builds on Proposition 209 by eliminating race classifications in those areas where preferences are outlawed.

Race has become less and less a factor in determining the fates and fortunes of Americans. For that reason, the state should get out of the racial classification business and end the invidious practice of dividing by race. Racial classifications originate in the 17th-century slavery system and should be torn down, not propped up by government sanction. Furthermore, the classifications are unscientific and arbitrary: How much black blood makes a person black? Who counts as Hispanic? To what race do multiracial people belong?

By pitting racial groups against one another, racial classifications foster more resentment and disharmony, not less. America will never get over its race problem as long as some insist on obsessively focusing on skin color as a defining characteristic. The historic Civil Rights Movement was not waged for an America where the government required every citizen to present his or her race as a prerequisite for any government transaction. It was waged for an America where the government treated all citizens equally before the law. John F. Kennedy once said, "Race has no place in American life or law".Prop 54 will lead to that world where government disregards race.

Our government serves as a model of justice and equality for all citizens. If we truly want a color-blind society to happen someday, the first, measured step towards that goal is to establish a color-blind government. As the most diverse state in the Union, California has the most to gain from ending racial classifications. Whatever group may be up today could be down tomorrow; every Californian will be better off being treated equally under the law.

With California's state budget as much as $38 billion in the hole, our state needs to save every dollar it can. A great place to start will be the elimination of the reams of paperwork used to track race data, the numberless computer programs engineered to tabulate it, and the wasted time of countless employees entering the useless data into the system. As more Americans marry across lines of race,more children of multiracial descent are born. California, as the most diverse state, has more multiracial people than any other. These people don't fit into any one box. Why should the government require them to deny their full heritage by checking a box?

As long as we are trapped in the mindset that the only way to get past race is to obsessively track and tabulate it, we will never get past it. The only way to reach a color-blind society is to actually start behaving like we have one. It will not magically come about on its own. *********************************************************************************** FROM THE POLITICAL FRONT:

Arnold has shown himself not ready for prime time in this campaign, but maybe by October 7 he will be ready. A few examples:

1. He claims that in January, as Governor, he will "rescind" SB60 allowing illegal immigrants to get drivers licenses. His staff should have told him that Governors don't rescind laws--they veto them, they create initiatives, they speak out against them, but Governors can't rescind laws.

2. He will "audit every agency of government. He will "open the books". Actually, it is the job of the Controller to audit the books, and he can at any moment, without warning. The Governor can issue an audit demand and get it.

But, what do audits determine? They find waste and corruption. An audit does not tell if a program is good or bad, or if needed. Is he saying that the money problem of the state is waste and corruption, $38 billion dollars worth? Let him tell us, before we vote, what he will cut, or at least which programs are on the table.

3. The only "debate" he is willing to participate in is where he gets the questions five days in advance. In Hollywood, that is called "a script". (stolen from Jay Leno)

***************************************************** Let us remember, the first goal is to Recall Gray Davis. This is becoming a problem. Look at this:

Davis Ouster May Not Be A Sure Thing http://www.oaklandtribune.com/Stories/0,1413,82%257E1865%257E1616811,00.html

The gubernatorial recall races hit their mud-slinging midpoint this weekend amid a surprising and perhaps decisive twist -- signs a growing number of voters miss the "good old days" of just being unhappy with Gov. Gray Davis. Front-running replacement candidates Cruz Bustamante and Arnold Schwarzenegger have swiftly fallen into such a swamp of criticism and uncertainties that Davis' ouster no longer appears inevitable, say many Democrats and independent analysts. *************************************************************** POLL FOR THE WEEK:

The Bush Administration is asking the United Nations to get involved in the Iraq situation. Do you support or oppose the UN's involvement at this time?

Please vote yes or no and send your response and reasons to: stephenfrank@sbcglobal.net

Fun Comments from a friend. If someone from Arnold's camp would like to submit a Dr. Seuss, happy to reprint it.

From Sylvia Sullivan. 8/29/03, of San Diego County:

With Apologies to Dr. Seuss

Will you for Arnold vote?

I will not for Arnold vote! Not in a boat, not by a goat

Not with the fans he boasts Not by the money he gloats

By right stand, I am No matter dire predictions I'll stand by my convictions!

Arnold will not get my vote

Not on a float, not with a dope Not on a whim, not in a gym!

Not with a goose, not on the booze I will not be loose, with the Gov. I choose!

By Tom I stand, I am He has the right plan The man we love, to be our next Gov.!


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: bustamentebooster; proposition54
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To: sruleoflaw
Fair enuff reply. But it seems the odds are that in 2006, you'll get Bustamante RE-elected.
Just seems to me that the choice amounts to Arnold vs Cruz. Even a bad conservative is better than an avowed lib.
61 posted on 09/09/2003 8:03:29 AM PDT by Adder
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To: Admin Moderator
"I heard the clip of Arnold saying this"

Where did you hear a clip of Arnold saying this? I thought this quote came from Justin as listed above? It still remains totally unsourced and undocumented. This smells like rat propaganda. Is this the same Justin that is on Connerly's staff? Justin Jones (jj@racialprivacy.org) If so, how could you hear the clip as you say?
62 posted on 09/09/2003 8:03:53 AM PDT by Registered (Gray Davis won't be baaaaahhck)
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To: Adder
Sorry about the mix-up on the prop. I am so concerned about the license thing I just jumped without looking.
63 posted on 09/09/2003 8:04:11 AM PDT by myself6
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To: Admin Moderator; William McKinley
btw, just because a supposed story is being quoted in the same online magazine by associated staff does not give any credibility to this story.

William McKinley debunked Capital Hill Blue over fabricated sources. I think we need to be very careful on who/what we give credence to.
64 posted on 09/09/2003 8:06:24 AM PDT by Registered (Gray Davis won't be baaaaahhck)
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To: justshe; sruleoflaw; Hillary's Lovely Legs
Is there some reason you, and others, have not PINGED the person in question (HLL) to your post?

Undoubtedly because they're scared she'll show up.

65 posted on 09/09/2003 8:09:10 AM PDT by EllaMinnow (Never Forget.)
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To: A Broken Glass Republican
Thank you for being the voice of common sense on this thread.

Whether we like it or not, politics is about COMPROMISE.



66 posted on 09/09/2003 8:09:37 AM PDT by MissouriForBush
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To: Adder
What’s better? ( or worse )

1. A lib who fully admits what they are.

2. A lib who will lie and obfuscate to hide what they really are.


I would choose option 1, then everyone would know who and what to blame when the liberal policies crash and burn.
67 posted on 09/09/2003 8:10:16 AM PDT by myself6
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To: the gillman@blacklagoon.com
What is the point of having a republican governor when he is powerless?

Governors in California aren't all that powerless. In California, governors have a line-item veto. This, in and of itself, gives them a great deal of power over the budget process.

68 posted on 09/09/2003 8:13:38 AM PDT by Bob (http://www.TomMcClintock.com)
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To: Bob
Thank you.

That might help some.
69 posted on 09/09/2003 8:16:04 AM PDT by the gillman@blacklagoon.com
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To: Registered
If Arnold said this, it would have made every headline in newspapers across the Country. I just asked some CA Freepers and it has not been in their paper or on the radio. Also think Fox News would have carried it as Breaking News the way they do Breaking News!
70 posted on 09/09/2003 8:17:15 AM PDT by PhiKapMom (Alpha Omnicon Pi Mom too!)
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To: Registered
While I have heard McClintock deride what he calls "country club Republicans" I have yet to hear Arnold slam any Republican, and the term "right-wing crazies" raises a red flag for me.
71 posted on 09/09/2003 8:18:43 AM PDT by onyx
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To: grania
The wing of the Republican Party that supports business and corporate interests doesn't even respect the values of social Conservatives.

I'm hooked on Rush Limbaugh, I listen every day, but he doesn't talk about the homo agenda any more, I guess they shut him down. Doesn't mention gun control, stated that he's not really into them. It's all about money. The morals and integrity of this country come first, a good economy is the reward. America wants cheap food and goods, so we reap a spoiled ingratuitous population. We get the leaders we deserve.

72 posted on 09/09/2003 8:21:04 AM PDT by stevio
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To: myself6
The Rat plan is working to perfection. They are actually going to win the governorship with about 35% of the vote.

Simple. Build up McClintock in the liberal press and a few phoney polls to convince his supporters that he is "surging". When Alan Colmes is endorsing McClintock as the "only true conservative" as he did last night, you know the fix is in.

Use the same press to attack Arnold from both the left AND the right. Drop a few unsubstantiated quotes like "he said the N word" and "he said Prop 54 is promoted by right wing crazies!"

The right-wing penchant for self-destruction is so deep that the KGO morning crew was talking about how Busta-mundo would be better than Arnold. This at a time when the throw-out-the-democrats sentiment in this state is running 55 to 65%. Unbelievable.

Cruz's ample belly is rolling in laughter about this. Willie Brown and his ilk are going the "outsmart the white boys" one more time. When will we learn?
73 posted on 09/09/2003 8:23:48 AM PDT by BigBobber
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To: PhiKapMom; Registered
Here's NEWS for ya-all. Right now, Rick Roberts radio KFMB 760 AM in San Diego, is interviewing Tom Metzger ( the white supremist ) and guess what? Metzger is supporting Bustamonte!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Why, because he wants to permit the flood of illegals to come to ahead --- for the purpose of casuing a revolution in CA!

"We have to sacrifice CA for the betterment of the country."
74 posted on 09/09/2003 8:24:24 AM PDT by onyx
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To: Hildy
you can't recall someone because you don't like the color of his eyes.

Actually, there's nothing to keep you from starting a recall effort based on someone's eye color.

Getting the million or so similarly-enraged 'xxxx-eye haters' to sign it is an entirely different matter. :=)

75 posted on 09/09/2003 8:25:47 AM PDT by Bob (http://www.TomMcClintock.com)
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To: sruleoflaw
Pardon me for my slowness of thought, but am I reading this right? Arnold is opposing a bill that ENDS racial profiling, and those that WANT it ended are "right wing crazies"? This story really doesn't make any sense to me.
76 posted on 09/09/2003 8:28:03 AM PDT by Future Snake Eater (Where's the money, Lebowski?)
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To: PhiKapMom; Registered
The white racist is supporting the "brown racist" --- wow.

BASKLASH TIME. Thank God, Metzger is NOT endorsing Arnold.
77 posted on 09/09/2003 8:28:40 AM PDT by onyx
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To: Future Snake Eater
Most fabricated stories don't make sense.
78 posted on 09/09/2003 8:28:42 AM PDT by Registered (Gray Davis won't be baaaaahhck)
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To: BigBobber
When Alan Colmes is endorsing McClintock as the "only true conservative" as he did last night, you know the fix is in.

Supposedly this tack is crucial to a Democrat win ... split the Republican vote. I personally twice saw Art Torres building up McClintock. And saw both Willie Brown and Jerry Brown giving McClintock the boost. It's sickening that some Republicans have fallen for their ploy!

79 posted on 09/09/2003 8:30:17 AM PDT by BunnySlippers (I'm voting for Arnold. Get over it already!)
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To: onyx
Why, because he wants to permit the flood of illegals to come to ahead --- for the purpose of casuing a revolution in CA!

But how can that be -- Arnold = Cruz (sarcasm)!

That is beyond my comprehension. Open up the borders!

I don't understand what is going on here with FR -- the McClintock posters are permitted to put up whatever they want including accusing us of being pro-abortion and nothing happens. They are spinning like RATs and putting words in someone's mouth! This does not sound like Arnold because he goes out of his way not to deride any group. I would have to personally hear it from his Mouth and that won't happen. McClintock and his Country Club Republican comment -- did he take any money from them for any of his campaigns? It is obvious that Arnold supporters are not welcome here!

80 posted on 09/09/2003 8:30:52 AM PDT by PhiKapMom (Alpha Omnicon Pi Mom too!)
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