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California recall Tom Mclintock for Governor Rally, Temecula, Ca 09/05/2003 (Pics)
Self ^ | 09/05/2003 | Joseph Ranos

Posted on 09/05/2003 9:45:43 PM PDT by Sonar5

Hi all,

With help from my son we passed out about exactly 180 fliers to those at the rally. We made up 200 of them for exactly $5.79. This is a great issue folks, most folks we talked to were not aware of the "Unintended Consequences" of SB 60 Which Davis signed this evening.

I gave extended information to the following Press:

Christian Science Monitor
San Diego Union-Tribune
Press-Enterprise
The Californian
A few others with the proper notepads or cameras.

California Republican Assembly

Senator Tom McClintock
Senator Hollingsworth
Tony Strickland (running against Barbara Boxer for US Senate)
Michael Naggar Mayor Pro-Tem of Temecula

I gave a couple interviews. One with the San Diego Tribune, and talked with a reporter from The Press Enterprise.

When I spoke with Senator McClintock, I had him for the longest, and the press had all their microphones and cameras at us.

But the biggest surprise was when I asked to have my picture taken with him. Apparently the press there had read or listened to the conversation I had with him earlier, and they took a ton of photos of the two of us.

I'll let you know if any show up. I doubt it, since their were some kids there.

My fear is that now that this bill has been signed into law, they will enact more laws for law abiding citizens instead of removing SB 60.

He didn't bring up my issue in the speech, but he did stick my info in his pocket and replied to me that "I had a good point and he had not thought of this issue that way".

My son said he enjoyed it, and hopefully we will have our pictures with the next Governor of California.

Regards,
Joe
Sonar5
AboutPolitics.net

Pic of Senator Tom McClintock & I


Pic of Tony Strickland and I


Pic of Tom giving speech


9mb Video from rally in AVI Format

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FULL TEXT of FLYER
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DAVIS TO ALLOW illegal aliens to Buy Guns Dump Governor Davis, and here is the biggest reason why. I have not seen this issue raised anywhere but through my website, AboutPolitics.net.

Governor Davis will sign into Law a bill that will allow illegal aliens to get a Drivers License. HOW STUPID IS THAT- What that means is any terrorist, that once in California, gets a Drivers license very easily, can then go BUY GUNS. This is a national security issue that affects all California citizens, as well as our nation.

From the California DOJ website located here:
http://caag.state.ca.us/firearms/pubfaqs.htm
“2. What is the process for purchasing a firearm in California?

All firearms purchases and transfers, including private party transactions and sales at gun shows, must be made through a licensed dealer under the Dealer Record of Sale (DROS) process. California imposes a 10-day waiting period before a firearm can be released to a buyer or transferee. A person must be at least 18 years of age to purchase a rifle or shotgun. To buy a handgun, a person must be at least 21 years of age, and either 1) possess an HSC plus successfully complete a safety demonstration with the handgun being purchased or 2) qualify for an HSC exemption.

As part of the DROS process, the buyer must present "clear evidence of identity and age" which is defined as a valid, non-expired California Driver's License or Identification Card issued by the Department of Motor Vehicles. A military identification accompanied by permanent duty station orders indicating a posting in California is also acceptable.
(PC Section 12071) "

The DROS (dealers record of sales of firearms), asks if you are a citizen, here is what the bottom of the DROS states:

(FALSIFICATION OF INFORMATION ON THIS FORM IS A MISDEMEANOR (PENAL CODE 12076)

Ask Governor Davis how many people have been prosecuted in 2002 for falsifying the DROS form. Makes you wonder, huh?

No longer will Social Security Numbers be required on drivers Licenses because of this bill, that Governor Davis signed, Which means when the DOJ does a check, it will most likely show up no record at all, which means the illegal alien gets the gun.

Share this information with your relatives, friends, neighbors, and loved ones immediately.

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Original file is in Open Office Format
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My Orginal Post yesterday regarding this issue can be found here:

My Original Post is here.


TOPICS: Activism/Chapters; Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California
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1 posted on 09/05/2003 9:45:44 PM PDT by Sonar5
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To: Sonar5
Sorry, I forgot to list Tom's website. he canuse some cash too, folks...

http://helptom.com

Regards,
Joe
Sonar5
http://aboutpolitics.net
2 posted on 09/05/2003 9:53:36 PM PDT by Sonar5
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To: Sonar5
Join Us…Your One Thread To All The California Recall News Threads!

Want on our daily or major news ping lists? Freepmail DoctorZin

3 posted on 09/05/2003 10:08:50 PM PDT by DoctorZIn
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To: Sonar5
how many people were there?
4 posted on 09/05/2003 10:10:37 PM PDT by Paul8148
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To: Paul8148
Hi Paul,

My son and I only gave 1 flier to each couple, and there were a lot of single people there, it seemed. we gave out 180 fliers.

This rally was not that well publicized, so I guess there were about 300 or so total.

I actually thought there would be more. You can see the pics I uploaded with the link above.

I wished there were more.

Regards,
Joe
Sonar5
http://aboutpolitics.net
5 posted on 09/05/2003 10:15:39 PM PDT by Sonar5
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To: Sonar5
WTG, Sonar!
6 posted on 09/05/2003 10:46:40 PM PDT by ETERNAL WARMING
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To: Sonar5
Thank you for all your effort. Keep up the mighty damn fine work!
7 posted on 09/05/2003 11:10:45 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi)
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To: Sonar5
Thanks so much for your work, Sonar. I only saw that angle mentioned on FR's California board earlier this week. The news media never mentioned this angle, and they probably never thought about these issues in their excitement for SB60. If Tom hadn't examined that angle, and obviously it was never discussed in the legislature or he would have examined it, I'll bet none of the other legislators thought about it, either.

I hope the democrats don't "fix" this inconvenient problem by making firearms purchases even more difficult for lawful CA residents.

8 posted on 09/05/2003 11:28:04 PM PDT by heleny
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To: *bang_list
California SB60 Unintended Consequences (illegal aliens buying guns with CA driver's licence) *bang
9 posted on 09/05/2003 11:36:27 PM PDT by SteveH
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To: heleny
Hi,

That is my thoughts exactly. I am worried that the legislative remedy the dems will choose will be tighter gun laws which we do not need.

This is a huge lophole with the only remedy being the repeal of this law by referendum, and I will be working for that as well.

Regards,
Joe
Sonar5
http://aboutpolitics.net
10 posted on 09/05/2003 11:39:05 PM PDT by Sonar5
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To: Sonar5
McClintock looks terrific up there :-)


Congratulations on a great event and thanks for the information!
11 posted on 09/05/2003 11:44:18 PM PDT by Tamzee ("Big government sounds too much like sluggish socialism."......Arnold Schwarzenegger)
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To: Sonar5; Rabid Republican; kellynla
Thanks for the pics and the McClintock support.
12 posted on 09/05/2003 11:58:06 PM PDT by risk
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To: heleny
I hope the democrats don't "fix" this inconvenient problem by making firearms purchases even more difficult for lawful CA residents.

Any bets on whether they try? M,mm?

13 posted on 09/06/2003 12:34:02 AM PDT by EGPWS
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To: Sonar5
Here's an interesting idea: McClintock for US President.
14 posted on 09/06/2003 1:04:56 AM PDT by sully777 (If time=$, procrastination must be a savings account.)
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To: DoctorZIn; Sonar5
Blast from the hypocrit Davis' past (quote from fairus.org:

“The tragedy of September 11 made it abundantly clear that the driver’s license is more than just a license to drive; it is one of the primary documents we use to identify ourselves.”1

—California Governor Gray Davis, after vetoing a bill that would have allowed illegal aliens to get driver’s licenses in the state


15 posted on 09/06/2003 1:59:09 AM PDT by Susannah (Over 200 people murdered in L. A.County-first 5 mos. of 2003 & NONE were fighting Iraq!!)
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To: Sonar5
Great pics! And I'm sure Tom will do some thinking about what you said.
16 posted on 09/06/2003 6:59:23 AM PDT by Rabid Dog
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To: sully777
If we get him as governor, and he gets re-elected in 2006, he'll be, literally, one of the strongest contenters.

Think about it: a strong conservative ruling the pivotal Democratic state in the union.

That would be even better than Bill Owens, my current presidential hopeful.
17 posted on 09/06/2003 7:57:31 AM PDT by TheAngryClam (TOM McCLINTOCK is my choice for governor. He should be yours too.)
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To: Sonar5
My fear is that now that this bill has been signed into law, they will enact more laws for law abiding citizens instead of removing SB 60

Like, gun bans? Which of course will be justified by the possibility of illegals perpetrating fraud. I can hear Feinstein now.

There's one other unintended consequence of this outrage. It means that on January 1, all 100 million citizens of Mexico will be doing everything they can to get to California to get a license, because that license will mean de facto U.S. citizenship. Since something like 70% of all Mexican citizens have relatives in the U.S., and a significant majority of those are in California, getting an address to put down will be no problem. And the law explicitly allows the Matricula Consular card to be used for identification.

That means that virtually any Mexican national will now be able to get a California license, whether here for a day or the last 30 years.

By the way, if you talk to McClintock again, point out to him that the battle cry of the anti-187 gang was that "a state can't make an immigration law". 'Member that? Well, it would appear that the people who said that then are now the same people who just passed one.

Maybe some Republicans could get a clue and point that out.

18 posted on 09/06/2003 10:08:54 AM PDT by Regulator
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To: Sonar5; BlackElk; TheAngryClam; churchillbuff; ElkGroveDan; Gophack; kellynla; PeoplesRep_of_LA; ...

Such a nice post.

When I spoke with Senator McClintock, I had him for the longest, and the press had all their microphones and cameras at us.

Fantastic grassroots work Sonar5. I hope you had your picture taken with the next Governor of the great state of California too. With the referendum Tom has mentioned to put SB60 on the March ballot-this issue is yet another for Tom to shine.

19 posted on 09/06/2003 10:36:36 AM PDT by PeoplesRep_of_LA (Stop Dividing the Republican base; vote McClintock on October 7, 2003!)
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To: Sonar5
Nice shot of Tony.
20 posted on 09/06/2003 10:41:25 AM PDT by Roscoe
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