But the voters will soon require that Gray Davis and Cruz Bustamante be given ...
Posted on 09/05/2003 8:09:04 PM PDT by ElkGroveDan
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OFFICE OF THE GOVERNOR L03:097
GOVERNOR DAVIS RESTORES DRIVER'S LICENSES TO CALIFORNIA IMMIGRANTS 09/05/2003
LOS ANGELES
Governor Gray Davis today signed legislation that will allow California's large immigrant population the privilege of driving with a state driver's license. "Right now, let's not kid ourselves: People are driving to work," Gov. Davis said. "They're driving without demonstrating they know the rules of the road. They're driving without insurance. Everyone benefits by having drivers on the road know the rules of the road and presumably be a safer driver." SB 60 by Senator Gil Cedillo (D-Los Angeles) would require that all applicants for a California driver's license or a California identification card provide a social security number or a federal individual tax identification number (ITIN). If an applicant presents an ITIN in lieu of a social security number, the applicant must also present a birth certificate or record of birth issued by their country of origin and one of the following:
An estimated two million immigrants drive on California roads at any given time, creating a potentially dangerous public safety problem. "These people are here right now. They're contributing to our economy. They're working right now and no one’s giving them background checks," Gov. Davis said. "They deserve the right to drive."
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It sure is.
And to all of you in California, Davis just screwed you again. Think about it.
Ha! You must be joking, right? He isn't going to go back to Mexico. Why should he? All he has to do is go downtown to one of the many fake document mills (now a cottage industry), and get new "papers".
But the voters will soon require that Gray Davis and Cruz Bustamante be given ...
When will the rest of the country get it? Davis didn't just screw Californians, HE SCREWED AMERICA. This isn't about driving, insurance, safety, or any of the other BS smoke-and-mirrors arguments. This is about two things: (1) illegal voter registration, and (2) illegal de-facto citizenship.
1. With "Motor Voter", illegals will be registered to vote when they apply for their licenses. Illegal votes WILL affect national elections. Illegal votes WILL determine who becomes a senator or a congressman (as it has already with the election of Sanchez over Dornan). Illegal votes WILL likely change the outcome of a presidential election within the next eight years.
2. With a CA driver's license, illegals will be able to obtain virtually any other form of ID or documentation. Illegals will then be able to do virtually anything an American citizen can do. And don't think they're all going to stay in California. They will be able to travel freely anywhere in the US with their perfectly valid CA driver's license, which is honored in every other state. That's right, some might even move to YOUR neighborhood.
Those of you who think this only affects California, you need to pull your heads out of the sand.
A quick way to put a stop to this nonsense would be for other states to refuse to recognize a California drivers license. Start busting Californians for driving without a license the minute they cross the state line.
I'd heard that one state (IIRC Colorado) had threatened, that if this law in CA passed, they would refuse to honor CA driver's licenses as legitimate forms of ID. But I think they would still have to accept it as a license to drive.
I'm pretty sure you can't obtain a license in a state unless you are a resident of that state. That is why the other states have reciprocal agreements to honor each other's licenses. So, if a state refused to honor CA licenses for driving purposes, then no one from California (including American citizens) would be allowed to legally drive in that state.
"If citizens of Mexico can vote in California's elections why can't Americans cast their votes in Mexico's elections?"
Why would you want to?
"If citizens of Mexico can vote in California's elections why can't Americans cast their votes in Mexico's elections?"
Why would you want to?
Correct.....which would immediately cause legal California residents to go completely bonkers at their politicians to reverse the crazy law.
And, any state that refused to acknowledge a California drivers license would be in the right based on the fact that they will now have no reason to be confident that any California driver is a legal citizen.
Of all the flag waving at the signing today it's being reported that there was not a single American Flag.This is NOT correct.
That picture will be worth thousands of votes.
I was there, and someone on the RAT advance team had the foresight to distribute DOZENS of small American flags throughout the crowd.
I was surprised that there were so few Mexican flags.
One Chance to Kill SB60 (Illegal Drivers Licenses), Says McClintock
(CA FReeper Alert, PLEASE READ)
Tom McClintock, KRLA radio, KABC radio | truthkeeper
Posted on 09/05/2003 4:59 PM PDT by truthkeeper
Okay, a little voice told me to put up this thread...
Since I heard Sen. McClintock explain this plan twice in two days, during two different radio station interviews, I thought it would be a good idea to synopsis it. (I think is an excellent idea.)As we have all pretty much figured, the way to do something about the passage of the illegal alien driver's license law, which will be signed any moment by our traitorous, corrupt governor, lies in our "ruby slippers," our wonderful referendum process. According to McClintock, the California Republican Assembly (a group which endorsed him, and the largest of its kind in California), already is buzzing about a plan to challenge the new law "once Davis's pen hits the paper." I have already checked their website and found nothing as of yet; however, McClintock says as soon as he has more information it will be linked on his website. (Let's keep watching for this.)
Here's how it would work. Signatures on petitions would be gathered as with the recall; however, the good news is that he said only a relatively small number would be required. (Off the top of his head, McClintock didn't know the exact amount, but he thought only about 1/4 or 1/5 the amount required for the recall. It should be a lead pipe cinch to get this on this one, IMHO.)
Of course, the signatures need to be collected in the proper, legal manner - I don't have the details to post at this time, but we can get that info readily - and then appropriately forwarded. The good news, according to Sen. McClintock, is that as soon as they are collected and forwarded as required by law, this ridiculous new law MUST BE IMMEDIATELY STAYED UNTIL THE NEXT SCHEDULED ELECTION. That would be MARCH 2004 if we can get the signatures quickly enough. And remember, this idiotic law doesn't go into effect until Jan. 1, 2004. Wouldn't it be wonderful if we could beat it to the punch entirely? Does anyone seriously have any doubts we'd knock this thing out in a referendum election?
CLICK HERE for the rest of that thread
I had a sneaking sucpicion that this was the intent of your proposal. Three problems:
1. Since the agreements are reciprocol, then if a state threatened to refuse CA licenses (for driving), then CA would likely threaten to refuse that state's licenses (it may even be automatic under teh terms of the recipricol agreement). So it would be as annoying for their residents as it would be for CA residents.
2. I don't know if it would affect enough CA residents to make a differece. You have to remember that of the millions of CA residents, only a small percentage regularly drive out of state.
3. What makes you think that the Leftist politicians who are running the state of CA give a damn about what people of CA want? We have been screaming bloody murder about this bill and it was passed and signed anyway. We overwhelmingly passed Prop 187, only to have a Leftist "judge" (i.e., tyrant) overturn it. Even when CA raises its collective voice in protest via the recall process, it's business as usual in Sacramento.
Of course I don't seriously believe my scenario will happen....it's way too logical.
But, wouldn't it be fun to watch the fireworks if it did. LA Times headline..."Millions Of Californians Trapped!!!"....."Governor Declares All-Out War On Racist Nevada"....
I do, however, seriously believe that any state would be correct in refusing to acknowledge a California drivers license as legitimate should this law go into effect.
I attempted to google some images from south state TV stations but found none but did see the picture of the Flags near Dufus.
I went with what was being said by Sacramento night time radio host, Mark Williams. The guy does 15 hours a week locally plus maybe as many hours a week on a SF station. He's bound to muddle some facts doing that much on-air time.
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