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Mark Steyn: For the antis, Kelly is just a cudgel with which to beat Blair
The Telegraph (U.K.) ^ | 09/06/03 | Mark Steyn

Posted on 09/05/2003 4:01:37 PM PDT by Pokey78

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1 posted on 09/05/2003 4:01:38 PM PDT by Pokey78
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2 posted on 09/05/2003 4:02:37 PM PDT by Pokey78 ("I'm not going to start the Third World War for you"- Gen. Sir Michael Jackson to Gen. Wesley Clark)
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To: Pokey78
I've never understood how this Kelly story is supposed to play against Blair. The BBC misrepresented what Kelly said, which did not support the charge of a "sexed up" intelligence report and when the government denied the lie, the Beeb burned Kelly, who later committed suicide. It's the Beeb who ought to suffer consequences, not Blair. Am I missing something?
3 posted on 09/05/2003 4:06:07 PM PDT by colorado tanker (Iron Horse)
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To: Pokey78
Bump.
4 posted on 09/05/2003 4:15:33 PM PDT by aculeus
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To: colorado tanker
Nope, but fleet street protects its own, much like abccbsnbcmsnbccnn, gang up on FOX and Bush the Younger.
5 posted on 09/05/2003 4:16:30 PM PDT by dts32041 ("Moderate Arab" he's the one who detonates his bomb via remote control.)
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To: colorado tanker
Am I missing something?

Not that I can see.

6 posted on 09/05/2003 4:17:58 PM PDT by Madame Dufarge
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To: Pokey78
...unless you count Jeanette Winterson's response to 9/11: "Touch me. Kiss me. Remind me what I am."

Ummmm.....no thanks.

7 posted on 09/05/2003 4:18:08 PM PDT by facedown (Armed in the Heartland)
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To: colorado tanker
Yes, you are missing something, because you are not starting with the correct premises. The BBC is Good, and Blair is Bad. If you keep these facts in mind, it will all be clearer.
8 posted on 09/05/2003 4:24:48 PM PDT by Sloth ("I feel like I'm taking crazy pills!" -- Jacobim Mugatu, 'Zoolander')
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To: colorado tanker
You got it exactly right, in a minimum of sentences. The only thing you missed was WHY Dr. Kelly killed himself.

He was right. The BBC was wrong. But they were huge and had a reputation of being RIGHT. So he was dead, professionally and politically, so he killed himself.

Heads should roll at the BBC, and not just their dishonest reporter, Andrew Gilligan. If the top dogs at the BBC are not forced to resign in disgrace, it will be one more proof of Lily Tomlin's routine as Ernestine the Operator. She pulled the wrong plug and said, "There went Pittsburgh. Oh well, we're too big to care."

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9 posted on 09/05/2003 4:30:50 PM PDT by Congressman Billybob (Everyone talks about Congress; time to act on it. www.ArmorforCongress.com)
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To: Pokey78
it's not enough just being anti-Bush (not something I thought I'd ever find myself accusing Jeanette of).

Steyn bump!

10 posted on 09/05/2003 4:33:11 PM PDT by KayEyeDoubleDee (const tag& constTagPassedByReference)
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To: Pokey78
From the article: ~~ "As we now know, Dr Kelly was in favour of the war. Not only that, but his most significant point of disagreement with the Government is that it was (officially) opposed to regime change, while he thought it absolutely necessary."

Worth repeating.

And, thanks for the "ping", Pokey.

11 posted on 09/05/2003 5:37:01 PM PDT by Right_in_Virginia
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To: Pokey78
In her youth Helen Mirren was a very good looking woman, but now she's older than Madonna and not appropriate material for a nude calendar - not even through Vaseline filters.
12 posted on 09/05/2003 5:51:03 PM PDT by Malesherbes
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To: Pokey78
"Well, I hold no briefs for Blair, even while he's posing naked."

Good one, LOL!

13 posted on 09/05/2003 6:01:30 PM PDT by Bonaparte
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To: Pokey78; colorado tanker
Great article! I've never understood how any of Kelly's statements disproved or undermined Blair's case in any way. Being a Socialist, Blair was never a big fave of mine. But he was obviously, despite his socialism, a moral man and he definitely rose to the challenge (remember, as Willie the Shake said: some are born great, some achieve greatness, and some have greatness thrust upon them...). And it does not seem to me that Kelly mislead him, or that he pressured Kelly, or that - well, any number of the other bizarre scenarios the peaceniks have suggested.

Kelly was a scientist, a sincere and serious sort of person, and not up to politics. But then, he's only one of the many deaths the anti-war crowd has on their hands. I guess, compared to those killed in Bali by one of the fans of the peace contingent, he doesn't really matter that much at all.
14 posted on 09/05/2003 6:14:57 PM PDT by livius
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To: scholar; Bullish; linear; yoda swings
Ping
15 posted on 09/05/2003 6:28:48 PM PDT by knighthawk (Full of power I'm spreading my wings, facing the storm that is gathering near)
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To: Pokey78
Even if he were to show us his front-bottom, it would be assumed to be an artfully placed aspidistra, and demonstrators would still be demanding he come clean.

Priceless! And very strongminded - I can't imagine Tony Blair's front-bottom without feeling ill.

16 posted on 09/05/2003 6:30:42 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Pray for Terri Schiavo!)
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To: colorado tanker
I'm with you. It's totally illogical. But like Steyn says, the anti-war afficiandos don't need no stinkin logic...
17 posted on 09/05/2003 8:20:46 PM PDT by lainde
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To: livius
"...Blair WAS never a big fave of mine. But, he WAS obviously..."

What's with the WAS? :o)

Excellent article, of course.

18 posted on 09/05/2003 8:33:40 PM PDT by arasina (Tag line dedicated to my friend Don DiFranco, 9/11/01 WTC Tower 1)
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To: Malesherbes
Beautiful in EXCALIBUR....
19 posted on 09/05/2003 9:54:20 PM PDT by Rummyfan
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To: Pokey78
And the question remains: other than grabbing Dr Kelly's shroud, what have you got?

Good question.

Thanks, Pokey.

20 posted on 09/06/2003 2:03:58 AM PDT by metesky (("Brethren, leave us go amongst them." Rev. Capt. Samuel Johnston Clayton - Ward Bond- The Searchers)
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