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Publik Edgeukashun's New Legal Scholars: Michael Moore and Susan Sarandon?
Myself | 9-4-03 | CT

Posted on 09/05/2003 1:47:44 PM PDT by CT

If the names Michael Moore and Susan Sarandon don't come to mind when you think of Constitutional Law, don't worry. They shouldn't. But that is exactly who a high school teacher in Lake Oswego Oregon is using to teach a class on the subject.

The first clue that this class on our nation's Supreme Law might be a farce was when my son asked me to sign a premission slip. Curious as to why a class would require special permission, I decided to read the syllabus.

The class is built around three movies that will be shown through the semester. These include Michael Moore's "Bowling for Columbine"; Susuan Sarandon in "Dead Man Walking"; and the move, "Traffic."

Moore's "work" is intended to stimulate discussion around our nation's gun laws. "Dead Man" is intended to spark questions around capital punishment. And Traffic rounds out the fare with a look at our country's drug laws!

Nowhere in the syllabus is there a suggestion or mention that these obviously biased left wingers will be balanced out with alternative views or materials. Further, there is no mention about the significant body of material one would expect in a Constitutional Law class. No Marburry vs. Madison. No Plessy. No legal precedents. Just pop culture.

As this school year gets underway, I suggest parents out there start asking more questions of their kids about the kind of material they are being subjected to.

It wasn't that long ago that teachers were expected to be as objective as reporters in the way they developed and presented their materials. That is obviously no longer the case -- in school or in most media.

While we have yet to hear back from our inquiries to both the teacher and principal, we now have reason to believe the worst.

The teacher's personal website has a vision for a "world without borders."


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Extended News; Front Page News; Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; US: Oregon; Unclassified; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: leftwingagenda; michaelmoore; publiceducation; susansaradon

1 posted on 09/05/2003 1:47:44 PM PDT by CT
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To: CT
Well, you do live in Oregon...
2 posted on 09/05/2003 1:49:47 PM PDT by Sir Gawain
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To: CT
LESSON 1: It's not "education".....it's INDOCTRINATION.
3 posted on 09/05/2003 1:54:17 PM PDT by goodnesswins (gat enil rednu noitcurtsnoc)
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To: Sir Gawain
Touche!

And I have lived here a long time. My family pioneered a little town in eastern Oregon. It wasn't always this way.

Oregon has been over run by socialists and liberals in the last 30 years. Many from California, but other places as well.

The Mayor (of Portland), Vera Katz, is a native New Yorker. This is the same Vera Katz that instructed her police department NOT to assist other law enforcement agencies in interviewing Middle Easterners after 9-11.

If we don't fight back against this stuff wherever it appears, we might as well ALL give up!

4 posted on 09/05/2003 1:56:22 PM PDT by CT
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To: CT
Susuan Sarandon in "Dead Man Walking";

Interesting choice from an obviously leftist teacher. Even though the nun who wrote the story and who was technical advisor for the movie (and who Stupidandon portrays) is anti-death penalty (as is Stupidandon), the film, to this orthodox Catholic anyway, was far from anti-death penalty. In fact, it could be argued that the unintentional point of the movie was that the killer would have never faced up to his crimes and died in a state of mortal sin had it not been for the death penalty. Losing your soul for eternity is a bit more serious than dieing, which we all have to do anyway.

I know, I know, that wasn't the intention of the film. And I'm guessing that the teacher involved has never thought about it that way either. However, sometimes things don't quite work out the way that you intend (even when you are a Big Hollywood Actress), so the possibility for some unexpectedly lively (and from the teachers perspective probably unwelcome)discussion would be there

Just a thought...

5 posted on 09/05/2003 2:05:15 PM PDT by jscd3
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To: CT
You mean THIS Oregon?

"EUGENE, Ore. -- A lesbian couple alleges that O'Hara Catholic School refused admission to their 4-year-old daughter because of their sexual orientation.."

You sure the Mt. St. Helens explosion didn't do something to the water up there with all that dust? ( ;
6 posted on 09/05/2003 2:05:37 PM PDT by OpusatFR
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To: CT
Please post the address of the teacher involved in this farce. I hope he/she/it has an e-mail response on her website. As someone who practices law in the US Supreme Court I will be honored to have a chat with him/her/it at earliest opportunity.

Please ping me when that window of opportunity is open.

Congressman Billybob

Latest column, "We Are Running for Congress -- Maybe," discussion thread on FR.

7 posted on 09/05/2003 2:08:10 PM PDT by Congressman Billybob (Everyone talks about Congress; time to act on it. www.ArmorforCongress.com)
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To: CT
All three of those movies have an 'R' rating. How old is your son?
8 posted on 09/05/2003 2:11:54 PM PDT by randog (Everything works great 'til the current flows.)
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To: CT
INTREP
9 posted on 09/05/2003 2:13:38 PM PDT by LiteKeeper
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To: randog
My son is 16 (and known to challenge the left wing drivel his is dealt daily at this school)
10 posted on 09/05/2003 2:15:49 PM PDT by CT
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To: LiteKeeper
INTREP?

Sorry, not sure what you are saying.

11 posted on 09/05/2003 2:16:34 PM PDT by CT
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To: dd5339
"world without borders"

More like a world without brains....
This is un-freakin'-real...
12 posted on 09/05/2003 2:22:50 PM PDT by cavtrooper21 (The only thing criminals will get from me is a .45 bullet or cold steel... Their choice.)
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To: Congressman Billybob
Please post the address of the teacher involved in this farce. I hope he/she/it has an e-mail response on her website.

I have kept the teacher's name out of this in hopes that it does not result in a battle between us and the school.

The teacher and princpal were contacted by us via e-mail, but have yet to respond.

Not being satisfied with silence, I took the issue today to the local talk radio personality, Lars Larson. Lars had been contacted earlier, and had my e-mail in his stack. So he was glad I called.

Lars has staff now investigating, and promised to get to the bottom of things.

The teacher, also an instructor of "political activism" has a list of news sources for research. Other than a token mention of the American Spectator, the entire list is the usual left wing and liberal "sources of choice." NYT, The Nation, PBS, BBC, blah, blah, blah.

At this point I am confident that the story has "legs."

13 posted on 09/05/2003 2:25:00 PM PDT by CT
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To: LiteKeeper
You might make it easier on yourself by putting your name in the To: box when you post an INTREP, etc. or just make the TO: box totally blank. Otherwise it's understandable why people would wonder why you called them an INTSUM.

At least you didn't call anyone a NIN-COMPAC.

14 posted on 09/05/2003 2:31:50 PM PDT by ZGuy
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To: CT
Retired Army Chaplain (ret 1995); VietNam vet - 1967-1969 (Field Artillery Officer in those days)

I am currently teaching Comparative Worldview (biblical vs humanist) class in the evenings at the Air Force Academy Prep School, Colorado Springs. Third year at Air Force Academy. Taught same class at the West Point Prep school for five years.

I also have the privilege of teaching several classes in Colorado Springs to high school, college, and adults on comparative worldviews (biblical vs secular). As I read the various threads, some impress me as good for illustrating different worldviews. So, using some Army terminology, I mark threads as

* SPOTREPS (spot report) - incidents"
* SITREP (situation reports) - &descriptions of the current world scene"
* INTREP (Intelligence Report) - information of an event involving those of the "opposition;"
* INTSUM (Intelligence Summary) provides more general information.

When I get home, I download these reports to a database for future classes to use.

Does that help?

15 posted on 09/05/2003 2:32:09 PM PDT by LiteKeeper
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To: CT
INTREP?

Sorry, not sure what you are saying.

He's bookmarking the thread. Nothing insulting :)

16 posted on 09/05/2003 2:34:45 PM PDT by Dianna
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To: CT
This gives your son a perfect opportunity and forum to introduce his classmates to reasonable, logical and intelligent patterns of thought. Let the propaganda be shown, and have your son tear it apart, piece by piece. His classmates may never have been exposed to "right" thinking if not for this opportunity. Silver-lining, blessing in disguise and all that jive...
17 posted on 09/05/2003 2:45:03 PM PDT by D. Brian Carter
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To: LiteKeeper
Yes.

As an update, I am going to insist that he use Free Republic as a resource for study!

Hell, if he can make them use NYT, The Nation, and all that crap, then students can come here and see it debunked and torn apart, limb by limb.

18 posted on 09/05/2003 3:00:13 PM PDT by CT
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To: CT; All
For a History of Freepers...

DEFEATING MICHAEL MOORE...

...at the OSCARS =


'MICHAEL MOORE may hurt the Alamo'

http://www.TheAlamoFILM.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1065&start=90
19 posted on 09/05/2003 6:49:21 PM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE (Vet-Battle of IA DRANG-1965 www.LZXRAY.com ..)
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To: CT; All
For a History of Freepers...

DEFEATING MICHAEL MOORE...

...at the OSCARS =


'MICHAEL MOORE may hurt the Alamo'

http://www.TheAlamoFILM.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1065&start=90


See pages 1,2,3,4
20 posted on 09/05/2003 6:56:10 PM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE (Vet-Battle of IA DRANG-1965 www.LZXRAY.com ..)
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