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This is my translation of the original article in renminbao.com

For the original Chinese version, please visit: http://www.renminbao.com/rmb/articles/2003/9/3/27782b.html

1 posted on 09/04/2003 10:02:41 PM PDT by FreepForever
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2 posted on 09/04/2003 10:03:42 PM PDT by FreepForever (ChiCom is the hub of all evil)
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3 posted on 09/04/2003 10:07:39 PM PDT by AntiGuv (™)
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Ping.
4 posted on 09/04/2003 10:07:41 PM PDT by Shermy (Show us the glove box!)
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Forgot to post the picture of Jiang Zemin and Kim


5 posted on 09/04/2003 10:18:33 PM PDT by tallhappy
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It will not be the same war this time, Chicoms. Death will rain upon you fom the sky. This time your 150,000 troops will die in ignonimity as have our recent combatants -- refer to the Middle East. This using our LEAST potent weapons, mind you. We are, after all, benevolent.
6 posted on 09/04/2003 10:26:14 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham
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Well, they're on the border and they're waiting for something. Maybe our invasion. Maybe theirs.

It's a war of nerves. It isn't only the North Koreans who may be building bombs, and the Japanese would be much, much better at it in any case - and unlike their NK counterparts, they do have plenty of material. China is waiting for us to make the first move and we are waiting for them. If nobody moves, the world changes. If we move together, the world changes. It will be a fine calculation on the part of the Chinese which world will be more advantageous to them. My guess is that one with both North Korea and Japan armed with nuclear weapons probably isn't the best option, if indeed they have any real option left at all. Loss of the option changes the world as well. "May you live in interesting times!"

8 posted on 09/04/2003 10:35:56 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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This is actually an encouraging development if true. Is this a reliable site. I've not seen it before.
9 posted on 09/04/2003 10:36:45 PM PDT by DoughtyOne
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Re #1

Thanks. I have been considering the translation of the same article from Korean language source(excerpted from Chinese.) It is better to have the translation from the Chinese source.:)

As this article indicates, Chinese troops are not there to help N. Koreans if a war breaks out in Korean Peninsula. They are there to pressure N. Korea and stem the chaos at the border. They may move in to restore order if the N. Korean regime collapses.

It is also possible that Chinese troops are there for the orderly processing of N. Korean refugees and checking N. Korean military incursions, if there would be a mass exodus of N. Korean refugees once refugee camps are built near the N. Korean border and the news of it gets out.

Many felt that this was an unrealistic scenario back in last December. I thought this would be quite likely. Now it happened.

13 posted on 09/04/2003 10:54:17 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster
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Thanks for the info
19 posted on 09/04/2003 11:36:30 PM PDT by knighthawk (Full of power I'm spreading my wings, facing the storm that is gathering near)
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Still trading with China, our "friend." We go to Wal-Mart to help finance the Chinese nuclear threat to the U.S.
20 posted on 09/04/2003 11:56:24 PM PDT by NoControllingLegalAuthority
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To: FreepForever

thanks for posting this to me

much appreciated
22 posted on 09/05/2003 1:25:54 AM PDT by The Pheonix
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I hope the American people can understand that when it comes to North Korea, we could fight a war, and win. To constantly believe that the lines in the sand cannot be crossed, leads us into a false sense of security.

Iraq and Afghanistan should have reminded everyone that we are looking to our future survival, not hiding our heads in shame after Somalia or Viet Nam.
26 posted on 09/05/2003 5:31:49 AM PDT by Pan_Yans Wife ("Life isn't fair. It's fairer than death, is all.")
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good job. dou xie
28 posted on 09/05/2003 6:05:42 AM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (Saddam Had No Taepodong-II nuke ICBMs capable of hitting the World's Largest & 2nd Largest Economies)
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150K, That's a fairly small portion of what the PLA has to send. I wonder if that's a contingency force or the whole thing.

As a contingency force, that gives them more than enough time to put togeather a large-scale intervention into N. Korea.

As a stand-alone army, that would be too large to merely close a border with and too small to nuetralize US advantages such as air power and manuever capability.

A deployemnt of 30K or 500K would seemingly make more sense.
29 posted on 09/05/2003 6:25:12 AM PDT by .cnI redruM (More Americans 18-49 Watch The Cartoon Network than CNN!!!)
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If anyone believes the propaganda that these troops are "to seal the border" then I suggest reading Sun Tzu's "The Art of War."

"When you are near, you must appear to be far...."

30 posted on 09/05/2003 6:53:04 AM PDT by GOP_1900AD (Un-PC even to "Conservatives!" - Right makes right)
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I wonder if those anti-U.S. protesting South Korean students still want America to go away?

Or are they too stupid to know what real trouble they are in?

48 posted on 09/05/2003 9:29:49 AM PDT by AxelPaulsenJr (Hillary for dog catcher. I met her once, she is qualified to catch dogs.)
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Thank you very much for the translation. Could you please explain who publishes renminbao.com web site? It is one thing for the PRC to move troops. It is another to announce this fact in the press, is is not?
49 posted on 09/05/2003 9:44:33 AM PDT by Faraday
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Whoa!!!

That's what we have in Iraq.

One can only HOPE that the ChiComs don't intend to live up to their treaty agreement w/NK and re-inforce the NKArmy.

OTOH, I think the ChiComs recognize that NK is run by a genuine coo-coo, and he's unpredicable. Certainly not the kind of neighbor you want, especially w/nukes in his garage.
52 posted on 09/05/2003 11:00:31 AM PDT by ninenot (Democrats make mistakes. RINOs don't correct them.--Chesterton (adapted by Ninenot))
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This military maneuver on the Sino-Korean border was quietly made when the six-party talk was still taking place in Beijing.

As soon as North Korea threatened to test nuclear weapons, which I'm sure the Chinese adamantly told them not to say, the situation moved to a new level.

A total of three Field Army Groups (total 150,000 men) are now being deployed. According to PLA organization, one Field Army Group (YeZhan JunTuan) is equivalent to 50,000 men, consisting of 3 infantry divisions, 1 heavy-armor division and 1 artillery division.

Not a bad collection of hardware, just to seal a border. 9 infantry divisions, 3 armored divisions and 3 artillery divisions looks a lot more like the spearhead of an invasion force, though. The interesting detail here is a large offensive force is being prepared on an weak flank of an 'ally' who is sliding into conflict with a powerful enemy. Perhaps China has told North Korea that they're doing this in preperations to assist them. In Kim's world, he may even believe it.

Will the Chinese get in the ring to help out North Korea? Not a chance.

My money says that as soon as the DMZ goes hot, the Chinese will break through the western front, and race down as far south as they can. If they can sieze Pyongyang while we're still fighting it out on the border, they can 'overthrow' the government and provide 'peacekeepers' to stabilize the country with the same borders. Martial law under the PLA would keep the country from falling apart. It's very possible that the PLA could do a better job than we could.

The North Koreans do not regard Chinese as demons (Americans and South Koreans are). That may sound silly, but there would be far less panic and unrest if the Chinese stepped in to 'help'. Also, the PLA could essentially slaughter whoever did not obey until control was reestablished, which is not an option for the U.S. They could effectively if brutally keep the mess locked down long enough for international relief workers to bring in food, and start to establish order. Neither South Korea nor China wants the DPRK to shatter and explode; if they think they can control the situation, they will.

Although the Military Police is also under the PLA, replacing the border forces with those with combat capability has more implications than strengthening the border control. This is not only to prevent a sudden flood of N Korean refugees. The more important task is: a contingency plan for a possible American attack on N Korea.

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China has got to convey a message to Kim Jong-Il: Do not expect China to continue with the “Resist U.S. Aggression and Aid Korea (kangmei yuanchao)” policy from 1950-53. Today’s reality is: if a peaceful solution fails, Beijing will not send troops to N Korea to assist their fighting. Instead, they will send troops to close the border.

This gives away the suprise ending. The Chinese do not intend to stay on their side of the border and swat away refugees, nor do they intend to engage U.S. forces. That only leaves one reason to invade, and that's to take over, much like our good friend Uncle Joe Stalin did for half of Europe.

The overwhelming bulk of North Korea's combat power is on the DMZ. 24 hours into the war with us, the DPRK will be so badly disrupted and disoriented that they'll have no effective response against 100k+ troops kicking in the back door. Kim may even be so naiive as to allow them in without a shot. Either way, he's done for, and so is his regime. One way or another, China cannot tolerate half the U.S. military within a few days drive from Beijing, especially if they think we may have reason to be angry with them. If their only option is to invade a former ally to create a buffer zone, they will.

53 posted on 09/05/2003 11:13:33 AM PDT by Steel Wolf (Too close for guns, switching to missiles!)
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N Kor faces invasion from both sides. The allied Chinese and American [S Kor] armies will meet in Pyongyang for afternoon tea.
54 posted on 09/05/2003 11:16:32 AM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the Law of the Excluded Middle)
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