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China Sent 150,000 Troops To Korean Border As Tension Mounts
Renminbao ^ | September 3, 2003

Posted on 09/04/2003 10:02:40 PM PDT by FreepForever

Informed diplomatic sources said China’s authority is feeling increasingly “uneasy” towards the North Korean nuclear deadlock, as tension mounts. Beijing had secretly made military arrangement according to the N Korean crisis. 150,000 PLA Armies were sent to the Sino-Korean border to substitute the local Military Police (WuJing Budui) stationing there, in preparation for any possible American attack on N Korea.

This military maneuver on the Sino-Korean border was quietly made when the six-party talk was still taking place in Beijing. A total of three Field Army Groups (total 150,000 men) are now being deployed. According to PLA organization, one Field Army Group (YeZhan JunTuan) is equivalent to 50,000 men, consisting of 3 infantry divisions, 1 heavy-armor division and 1 artillery division.

Although the Military Police is also under the PLA, replacing the border forces with those with combat capability has more implications than strengthening the border control. This is not only to prevent a sudden flood of N Korean refugees. The more important task is: a contingency plan for a possible American attack on N Korea.

Once the Korean Peninsula situation lost control and the nuclear crisis cannot be solved through peaceful means, an Iraq war style massive air attack followed by ground troops advance is expected. The PLA forces at the border can avoid chaos and quickly seal the border.

After Hu Jintao took office, China’s policy toward N Korea has experienced major change. According to the report, even if an American attack on N Korea becomes a reality, China’s forces will abstain from joining the war. To prevent the possibility of war, China is working hard for a peaceful solution and tried not to posture herself as an opposition of America.

China and North Korea have signed a “Sino-Korean Joint-Security Pact” -- military aid must be provided when either side is under the military attack from a foreign force. To prevent getting involved in an American-Korean conflict, China is now reviewing the alteration of the terms of this treaty and has entered the deliberation stage.

China has got to convey a message to Kim Jong-Il: Do not expect China to continue with the “Resist U.S. Aggression and Aid Korea (kangmei yuanchao)” policy from 1950-53. Today’s reality is: if a peaceful solution fails, Beijing will not send troops to N Korea to assist their fighting. Instead, they will send troops to close the border. They hope that this change of posture can tell Kim to stay in line with the Big Brother (China) and try to solve the stalemate with America with an earnest attitude.

Photo Caption: Hu Jintao is disgusted with Jiang Zemin’s Korean policy.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: border; china; chinastuff; northkorea; nuclearcrisis; pla; zanupf
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To: Jeff Head
Yes, I agree with you that China has some scheme grander in scale than having Kim create trouble by picking on the biggest guy in the block. It just doesn't make any business sense for China.
41 posted on 09/05/2003 8:41:01 AM PDT by FreepForever (ChiCom is the hub of all evil)
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To: FreepForever
I think China is wobbly on exactly what to do. On the one hand, NK makes a good ally to hold off capitalism on their border. OTOH, they cannot control NK as much as they would like. Now that NK has nukes, NK no longer needs China (as much) as a military ally. I bet China is very nervous about that.

The question is: What can China do about it? I say "very little". But Chinese politics are multi-layered and you never know which layer is correct and, if it is, will it continue to be correct?

42 posted on 09/05/2003 8:44:12 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If You're Not A Part Of The Solution, There's Good Money To Be Made In Prolonging The Problem.)
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To: .cnI redruM
Haha! That's really interesting. By the way, that's much easier than the US's taking down of Noriega. Just have Jiang Zemin (Kim's buddy) invite Kim to Beijing to have a private talk and detain the bad boy. Then announce to the world that Kim chooses to go into exile. File closed. Nobody will ask any question. Everybody is happy.
43 posted on 09/05/2003 8:47:06 AM PDT by FreepForever (ChiCom is the hub of all evil)
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To: AppyPappy
Don't you just hate finding those errors right after you've hit "post."
Proof reading your own material is near impossible.

We understood your meaning though context, so it was not a problem.

44 posted on 09/05/2003 8:53:29 AM PDT by ASA Vet (1st Vietnam KIA: ASA Sp/4 James T. Davis)
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To: AppyPappy
I think China needs NK as a military buffer zone more than an ally to hold off capitalism. China itself is opening all border for capitalism and foreign investments. Why need a trouble maker like NK? I think NK's value to China is minimal.
45 posted on 09/05/2003 8:53:47 AM PDT by FreepForever (ChiCom is the hub of all evil)
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To: FreepForever
They'd have to do something with the North soon afterwards.
46 posted on 09/05/2003 8:54:20 AM PDT by .cnI redruM (More Americans 18-49 Watch The Cartoon Network than CNN!!!)
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To: Jeff Head
bad cop (N. Korea), good cop (The PRC), all to achieve ends they may not have been able to without such a show.

In the financial arena Red China is portrayed as a bull market ready to explode faster than higher than anything we could possibly image, with America sucking the hind teat. Hey, the PRC is on our side, investors! [/huge sarcasm]

47 posted on 09/05/2003 9:24:08 AM PDT by Ff--150 (we have been fed with milk, not meat)
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To: FreepForever
I wonder if those anti-U.S. protesting South Korean students still want America to go away?

Or are they too stupid to know what real trouble they are in?

48 posted on 09/05/2003 9:29:49 AM PDT by AxelPaulsenJr (Hillary for dog catcher. I met her once, she is qualified to catch dogs.)
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To: FreepForever
Thank you very much for the translation. Could you please explain who publishes renminbao.com web site? It is one thing for the PRC to move troops. It is another to announce this fact in the press, is is not?
49 posted on 09/05/2003 9:44:33 AM PDT by Faraday
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To: FreepForever
I agree with your Post #33.
50 posted on 09/05/2003 10:15:14 AM PDT by ought-six
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To: Ff--150
In the financial arena Red China is portrayed as a bull market ready to explode faster than higher than anything we could possibly image, with America sucking the hind teat. Hey, the PRC is on our side, investors! [/huge sarcasm]

Oh man....that was nice.

51 posted on 09/05/2003 10:28:38 AM PDT by BureaucratusMaximus (if we're not going to act like a constitutional republic...lets be the best empire we can be...)
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To: FreepForever
Whoa!!!

That's what we have in Iraq.

One can only HOPE that the ChiComs don't intend to live up to their treaty agreement w/NK and re-inforce the NKArmy.

OTOH, I think the ChiComs recognize that NK is run by a genuine coo-coo, and he's unpredicable. Certainly not the kind of neighbor you want, especially w/nukes in his garage.
52 posted on 09/05/2003 11:00:31 AM PDT by ninenot (Democrats make mistakes. RINOs don't correct them.--Chesterton (adapted by Ninenot))
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To: FreepForever
This military maneuver on the Sino-Korean border was quietly made when the six-party talk was still taking place in Beijing.

As soon as North Korea threatened to test nuclear weapons, which I'm sure the Chinese adamantly told them not to say, the situation moved to a new level.

A total of three Field Army Groups (total 150,000 men) are now being deployed. According to PLA organization, one Field Army Group (YeZhan JunTuan) is equivalent to 50,000 men, consisting of 3 infantry divisions, 1 heavy-armor division and 1 artillery division.

Not a bad collection of hardware, just to seal a border. 9 infantry divisions, 3 armored divisions and 3 artillery divisions looks a lot more like the spearhead of an invasion force, though. The interesting detail here is a large offensive force is being prepared on an weak flank of an 'ally' who is sliding into conflict with a powerful enemy. Perhaps China has told North Korea that they're doing this in preperations to assist them. In Kim's world, he may even believe it.

Will the Chinese get in the ring to help out North Korea? Not a chance.

My money says that as soon as the DMZ goes hot, the Chinese will break through the western front, and race down as far south as they can. If they can sieze Pyongyang while we're still fighting it out on the border, they can 'overthrow' the government and provide 'peacekeepers' to stabilize the country with the same borders. Martial law under the PLA would keep the country from falling apart. It's very possible that the PLA could do a better job than we could.

The North Koreans do not regard Chinese as demons (Americans and South Koreans are). That may sound silly, but there would be far less panic and unrest if the Chinese stepped in to 'help'. Also, the PLA could essentially slaughter whoever did not obey until control was reestablished, which is not an option for the U.S. They could effectively if brutally keep the mess locked down long enough for international relief workers to bring in food, and start to establish order. Neither South Korea nor China wants the DPRK to shatter and explode; if they think they can control the situation, they will.

Although the Military Police is also under the PLA, replacing the border forces with those with combat capability has more implications than strengthening the border control. This is not only to prevent a sudden flood of N Korean refugees. The more important task is: a contingency plan for a possible American attack on N Korea.

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China has got to convey a message to Kim Jong-Il: Do not expect China to continue with the “Resist U.S. Aggression and Aid Korea (kangmei yuanchao)” policy from 1950-53. Today’s reality is: if a peaceful solution fails, Beijing will not send troops to N Korea to assist their fighting. Instead, they will send troops to close the border.

This gives away the suprise ending. The Chinese do not intend to stay on their side of the border and swat away refugees, nor do they intend to engage U.S. forces. That only leaves one reason to invade, and that's to take over, much like our good friend Uncle Joe Stalin did for half of Europe.

The overwhelming bulk of North Korea's combat power is on the DMZ. 24 hours into the war with us, the DPRK will be so badly disrupted and disoriented that they'll have no effective response against 100k+ troops kicking in the back door. Kim may even be so naiive as to allow them in without a shot. Either way, he's done for, and so is his regime. One way or another, China cannot tolerate half the U.S. military within a few days drive from Beijing, especially if they think we may have reason to be angry with them. If their only option is to invade a former ally to create a buffer zone, they will.

53 posted on 09/05/2003 11:13:33 AM PDT by Steel Wolf (Too close for guns, switching to missiles!)
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To: FreepForever
N Kor faces invasion from both sides. The allied Chinese and American [S Kor] armies will meet in Pyongyang for afternoon tea.
54 posted on 09/05/2003 11:16:32 AM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the Law of the Excluded Middle)
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To: Faraday
Please don't mistake renminbao as Renmin Daily (The People's Daily). It is an anti-China web site which publishes "banned in China" news. They use that name to mock China's iron-fist control on the press. I don't know who run the site but I guess they are ex-China journalists who fled the country and now operating overseas.
55 posted on 09/05/2003 12:00:06 PM PDT by FreepForever (ChiCom is the hub of all evil)
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To: Steel Wolf
.....I'm sure the Chinese adamantly told them not to say, the situation moved to a new level.

Kim Jong-Il is an uncontrollable nut case.

.....In Kim's world, he may even believe it.

What other options has he got? The PRC is his “only ally”.

.....Martial law under the PLA would keep the country from falling apart. It's very possible that the PLA could do a better job than we could.

True, they can do a much better job than the US.

.....They could effectively if brutally keep the mess locked down long enough for international relief workers to bring in food, and start to establish order. Neither South Korea nor China wants the DPRK to shatter and explode; if they think they can control the situation, they will.

If what you envisioned really happens, once the flighting starts and DPRK’s military begins to mobilize, I think the likelihood of a mutiny within DPRK’s armies would be very high. There won’t be too much fighting and bloodshed if Kim is assasinated in an early stage. It would still be North Korea but with a more pragmatic and open government. Call me wishful thinking but this is possible.

.....If their only option is to invade a former ally to create a buffer zone, they will.

Instead of calling it an “invasion”, PRC can always invent more than one excuses for the excursion into DPRK: 1) for PRC’s security reason, 2) for peace keeping reason, 3) for humantarian reason, 4) for restoring peace in the Korean Peninsula, etc.

56 posted on 09/05/2003 12:40:07 PM PDT by FreepForever (ChiCom is the hub of all evil)
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To: FreepForever
Russia says Moscow and Beijing could provide North Korea with security guarantees (8/13/03)
Russia stages mock emergency exercise near N. Korea border (8/23/03)
57 posted on 09/05/2003 12:52:46 PM PDT by Orion78 (I WILL NEVER FORGET!!! FREE IRAN!!! BUSH 2004!!!)
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To: FreepForever
I forgot to include this one:

Russia Holds Large-scale Naval Exercise in Far East (8/18/03)

58 posted on 09/05/2003 1:06:00 PM PDT by Orion78 (I WILL NEVER FORGET!!! FREE IRAN!!! BUSH 2004!!!)
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To: Orion78
Russia says Moscow and Beijing could provide North Korea with security guarantees

The CARROT

Russia stages mock emergency exercise near N. Korea border

The STICK

59 posted on 09/05/2003 1:11:28 PM PDT by FreepForever (ChiCom is the hub of all evil)
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To: Orion78
Russia Holds Large-scale Naval Exercise in Far East

Another STICK

60 posted on 09/05/2003 1:14:48 PM PDT by FreepForever (ChiCom is the hub of all evil)
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