Posted on 09/04/2003 4:04:20 PM PDT by Servant of the Nine
Yes.(marron)
Do you have any children that you would like to have gassed in order to save your books? A Father or Mother will do if not.
There's a twit at work who piped-up with this "Bush is Hitler" crap and, as the conversation weaved on, it turned out that she didn't know who Herman Goering was.
Any person who you hear say "Bush is a Nazi" may safely, and immediately, be labeled as a "dink".
Not as in "more base".
Excellent point - well worth shouting from the rooftops. Like it or not, our country needs at least two strong, credible political parties to oppose and counter-check each other. By offering up candidates like Dean, who attempt to make a virtue out of frothing, psychotic hatred and contempt for the United States of America, its values and its people, today's Democratic Party utterly fails us on this level, as it does on so many other levels.
FR is chuck full of leftist trolls. In the last few months I have seen quite a number of trolls get zapped who were using sleeper accounts. IOWs accounts that had been set up as far back as '98 and gone unused until recently. When FReepers say things that don't add up don't take it for granted that they are just dense it may well be intentional. This site is under concerted attack by the left.
On the other hand there are quite a few FReepers that are simply dense.
Yes. And the level of shrillness of their lies inversely correlates to the level of belief they perceive their lies are receiving. The psychology of the left is a complex subject.
Given all that's known about the Clinton's I don't think it's paranoia to compare Hitlery to Hitler. After all NAZI stands for National Socialist Party.
Ask any "Effing Jew Bastard" what kind of person illegally procures FBI files on hundreds of colleagues and "enemies" or has someone's cat killed or falsely accuses their staff of federal crimes just to hire someone else in their place.
The Dems have a moral obligation to nominate a better human being.
In 1992, when I saw what the Dems presented as their candidate for president, I changed my registration to Republican. There is no way I can ever support a party whose BEST candidate is a man like Clinton. They're only continuing the tradition with Dean. I would hope that with every extremist pick, they drive more people like me away.
(I agree, Carter was an honorable man, though he seems to have lost some of his honor. He is completely misguided, though.)
It's not the ideology of a few Bush-haters I'm so concerned with, it's the "gathering storm" of lies, deception, and hyperbole designed to persuade feckless, hapless, witless and/or ignorant constituents to "get out the vote" against the evils (Nazi-ism?!) of Bush and the Republicans. It would be pretty difficult to root out every case of "operatives" registering voters in mental institutes, for example, and then helping them vote "absentee". Even voters who are able to "motor" on their own and can afford to buy their own cigarettes may well be unable to discern what is a lie and what isn't. This kind of vicious "Bush=Hitler" propaganda is designed to fool people who aren't intelligent or conscientious enough to think through it and recognize it for what it is before making their "informed decision" and casting their ballot.
Then, aside from these apparently legal tactics, we already know that a number of dead people, pets, and illegal immigrants have voted in past elections, and people with two residences have double-voted. Votes from active military overseas have been thrown out on post-mark technicalities.
The "psy-ops" tactics are targeted and insidious; the "illegalities" in voting are also targeted, and while fraud and deception haven't yet turned a national election, it came very close in 2000.
Holding a certain ideology is a right all Americans have, but the "gathering storm" is the increasing use of unethical and/or dishonest tactics to advance a particular ideological agenda by electing a particular person to a position of some power and/or authority.
To sum up, I would be very wary of anyone's "political machine". It's not true that "cheaters never prosper", at least in this world, and when they do, it's the honest folks who at best get the short end of the stick, and at worst get a Hitler or a Hussein or a Castro... without regard to party, which modern-day American "emperors" from local councilmen to POTUS candidates are the ones with the new clothes?!?!
I think we read the same paragraph differently. "Lower" as in a lesser charge.
bttt w/ the Rummyism
Once again, where in the Constitution does it say you have to pay taxes to practice your First Amendment Rights? Is that a little to difficult question for you?
I'm not sure, but I think you meant to direct this to someone else. This may be a different thread, I'm not sure...
It's not like Clinton didn't give signs of the kind of person he is, and it really wasn't necessary to know about Whitewater or the Rose Law Firm (or the Arkancide rumors) to figure him out. He didn't just tailor campaign speeches for the particular audience; he would say things to one audience that directly contradicted what he had already said to another (e.g. his position on NAFTA). His "I loathe the military" letter and the shenanigans surrounding it. His trip to the Soviet Union while he was a Rhodes scholar, at a time when the USSR did not allow tourism. The incident that really raised the red flags for me was his line re marijuana use: "I tried it, but I didn't inhale." Anyone who knows anything about marijuana use KNOWS that's a lie, and an obvious one. The only people I've ever known who would lie so easily about such trivial matters were psychopaths--and I've seen enough of Bill Clinton to believe that he is one, also.
So why didn't the Democrats keep him out of the presidential running? I didn't know then, and I don't know now. At the time, I was more likely to vote Democrat than Republican, and if Al Gore had been the candidate then, I probably would have voted for him. The fact that the Dems DID support him tells me that this isn't a party I can support, and will probably never support again, unless it changes drastically.
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