Posted on 09/04/2003 2:16:53 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative
TAIPEI, Taiwan -- An alliance between Hewlett-Packard Co. and Chinese Linux developer Red Flag Software Co. Ltd. established last month should lead to cooperation between the two companies on technology development and marketing of Red Flag Linux to companies in China and around the world.
The announcement, made in Beijing on Aug. 20, strengthens a long-standing relationship between the two companies and represents a milestone in Red Flag's plans to expand its business outside the world's most populous country.
The two companies plan to first focus their cooperative efforts in China, and then expand their work to include Asia-Pacific and the rest of the world, according to a joint statement released last month by the two companies. No timeframe was given for when Red Flag plans to expand its enterprise software business beyond China.
(Excerpt) Read more at infoworld.com ...
That's what I thought.... you pulled it out of your butt, as you normally do. You have absolutely no proof for your claim.
I am still ticked about that, but it's long over with. This is the problem now, and I see whose side you're leaning to.
If the PLA and Chinese Intel put operatives into those factories over time they can steal a few parts here, a few parts there off the assembly lines and figure out how to build our tech.
OVER TIME is the key part of your comment, yet you lack to even realize the significance even though you spoke it yourself. You'd rather just give it to them right? No need for things such as patents is what you preach.
We shouldn't have even a fair trade agreement with China let alone a free trade agreement.
Do what? You are the one taking HP's side to help build the internal computers systems for the Red Chinese government! You are seriously mixed up, I suggest you take a break and try to reliaze how contradictory your own statements are.
someone who in so many posts has made no bones about how he considers foreigners to be the scum of the Earth when they compete against America.
No, not all foreigners. Just communist governments that have nuclear missles pointed at us.
What you have advocated here is nothing less than the same collectivist mentality that keeps the Chicoms in power.
You'd like to think that, but I have repeatedly said we should be selling them both software and hardware, but we should not be helping them develop their own internal systems that are based on possibly illegal replicas of for-sale US technology (Unix). This is so far beyond your perspective it's not even funny.
Always worth a mention, wouldn't you say. What else keeps us going sometimes? ;)
I could care less about what the Chinese do with Linux. If it weren't Linux it would be a BSD. If it were neither they'd simply bootleg Windows XP en masse and make clusters out of XP boxes. One way or another, our software since it's sooooo easy to copy compared to other technology will end up in their hands. You want something to worry about? Worry about a group like Boeing moving a lot of their production over to China. You worry about an OS that might power their weapons rather than the fact that at the rate we're going, most of their weapons themselves will be based on American technology.
No need for things such as patents is what you preach.
That patenting a technology makes its workings open to the public so others can refrain from using the same design, aside.....
I'd rather accept the real world, where we can't easily identify Chinese spies and if we regulate ourselves as heavily as you want, we'll reduce the technology difference by dumbing ourselves down and/or making our companies have to outsource overseas even more to make a buck or two.
You are the one taking HP's side to help build the internal computers systems for the Red Chinese government!
I am saying that if we have a trade relationship with China, which we shouldn't, that what HP is doing is only natural. For all of the aspersions you have thrown my way, you seem to have not even one inkling how Capitalism works. Let me know if you need a little bit of a review of Capitalism 101....
Just communist governments that have nuclear missles pointed at us.
Or Finnland a country which is neither hostile toward us nor has nuclear weapons. Their crime being that they produced Linus Torvalds....
You'd like to think that, but I have repeatedly said we should be selling them both software and hardware, but we should not be helping them develop their own internal systems that are based on possibly illegal replicas of for-sale US technology (Unix)
That was in response to your comment that I am a selfish a$$h%^3e because I buy only Japanese cars. You made me out to be a traitor because I prefer them for their quality and lower price tags and maintanence fees than most American cars in my price range. If this seems out of the blue to you, I suggest you reread that post.
And I know you aren't advocating we sell to China. I know to that you don't believe in a right to reimplement UNIX functionality. Get rid of BSD while you're at it, if Linux is an illegal replica, BSD of all flavors, including the BSD code in OSX and WindowsNT, is the granddaddy of illegal UNIX replicas. Hell, even BeOS and AtheOS/Syllable are probably illegal too even though they are not at all UNIX-like except for having modest support for POSIX because they violate someone's patent on scheduling, "memory allocation by a central program" (kernel), you get the idea....
Would you be surprised to hear that your words and behavior here broadcast a *different* agenda?
It's interesting, how we never see our own behavior the way others do.
Just notice how your arguments have pretty universally been rejected. Here, on FR, where we've got a rep for being very patriotic. Known patriots are rejecting your arguments. That means something.
It means this line of FUD is so silly it's amazing anyone, anywhere would push it unless, well, unless they had direct financial reimbursement to do so!
Ah, something we might be able to agree on :) And while Linux may be lacking in the booth babe department, there's always BSD.
And praise organizations which do the same.
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