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Bush haters are real, and ugly -- real ugly
The Hill ^ | 09/03/03 | BYRON YORK

Posted on 09/03/2003 6:47:36 AM PDT by bedolido

Do you think George W. Bush is a Nazi? That his family and close advisers are Nazis, too? If so, then you’ll feel right at home in the growing ranks of hard-core Bush haters.

Go to the left-wing website Counterpunch.org and you’ll find this: “It’s going a bit far to compare the Bush of 2003 to the Hitler of 1933,” writes a man named Dave Lindorff (who has written for The Nation and Salon and has appeared on National Public Radio).

“Bush is simply not the orator that Hitler was. But comparisons of the Bush administration’s fear-mongering tactics to those practiced so successfully and with such terrible results by Hitler and Goebbels on the German people and their Weimar Republic are not at all out of line.”

Click to another site, the antiwar Takebackthemedia.com.

“The media will not tell you of the Bush family Nazi association,” says a Web movie that features photos of George W. Bush alongside photos of Adolf Hitler, along with stern warnings about the coming Bush Reich.

Then go to Fearbush.com, where you can download images of Bush in front of a giant swastika.

Does that seem like fringe stuff? Well, first remember that Counterpunch.org boasts 60,000 visitors a month. Takebackthemedia.com attracted some mainstream attention in coverage of the antiwar movement.

And then check out a slightly bigger publication: Vanity Fair.

Page 146 of the September issue of the magazine features a letter from a reader who noticed something interesting about a photograph of Bush administration military adviser Richard Perle in a previous issue.

The photograph reminded the reader of a famous Alfred Eisenstaedt photograph of Nazi propaganda chief Joseph Goebbels.

“Here it is: the same arrogance, the same malice toward the photographer, the same all-around creepiness,” the letter said. “Perle isn’t the first government official to use deceit and fear-mongering to force an extremist, irrational and ultimately violent view on an entire nation, or globe.”

The interesting thing is not that some people have such thoughts. The interesting thing is that the editors of Vanity Fair found the argument so compelling that they printed the letter in a special box with the Perle and Goebbels photos side by side.

But maybe all the Nazi stuff is a bit much for you.

If so, stop by Bushbodycount.com, where you will learn that the president and his family have been involved in dozens of “mysterious” deaths.

“This is a list of bodies, a roster of the dead, who might have been called witnesses had they not met their untimely ends,” the site says. The list includes all sorts of names — and even suggests that the elder George Bush might have had something to do with the assassination of John F. Kennedy.

At Bushbodycount.com you’ll also learn about something known on the Internet as the BFEE, or Bush Family Evil Empire. The bottom line: These Bushes are very, very bad people.

And if you tire of reading about how vicious the president is, you can take a break — and read how stupid he is.

Stop by Presidentmoron.com. And Bushisamoron.com. And Toostupidtobepresident.com. You’ll get the idea.

All that might seem not worth taking seriously were it not for the fact that similar stuff was taken quite seriously during the Clinton years.

Remember “The Clinton Chronicles,” the 1994 video that attempted to implicate Bill Clinton in all sorts of “unsolved” deaths? Remember the “Clinton Body Count” lists? Remember the stories of the president’s connections to drug running?

During those years, scurrilous stories about Bill Clinton were widely condemned in the press.

The Clinton White House did its part to help.

For example, in her famous “vast right-wing conspiracy” appearance on the “Today” show in 1998, then-first lady Hillary Rodham Clinton complained about administration opponents “accusing my husband of committing murder, of drug running.”

You might also remember that in 1995 the Clinton White House produced a 311-page study titled “Communication Stream of Conspiracy Commerce,” which purported to show how anti-Clinton stories made their way from the Internet (among other sources) to the mainstream press.

At the time, the Clinton White House sought to stigmatize the opposition by branding anyone who opposed the first lady’s healthcare plan or who thought Whitewater was a legitimate inquiry as Clinton haters.

They weren’t, just as now, people who simply dislike the president’s tax cut or don’t approve of the war in Iraq are not Bush haters.

But there are genuine Bush haters out there — an extensive, aggressive network of them.

Only so far, the press has seemed less interested in their work than in the previous administration.

But pay attention to what you see and read at Counterpunch.org, Bushbodycount.com, Presidentmoron.com and Vanity Fair.

An election is coming up. Things will undoubtedly get rough. And you’ll be seeing more and more of the Bush haters.

Byron York is a White House correspondent for National Review. His column appears in The Hill each Wednesday. E-mail: byork@thehill.com


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To: Phantom Lord
3) Food has to be edible

Mmmmmm... haggis!

Ever hear of the Land Down Under?

41 posted on 09/03/2003 7:25:06 AM PDT by presidio9 (Run Al Run!!!)
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To: Maringa
Yesterday I watched ABC news....first time I have watched mainstream news in over a year ...

I watch the ABC evening news frequently ... it's interesting and informative to get the liberal agenda & ABC never fails to disappoint. Last evening Pete-aahhh Jennings was back from vacation, also celebrating his 20th anniversary as news anchor, and ABC was back to full throttle bashing the Bush Iraq policy, the Bush economy, the Bush, etc., etc.. Of the 21 minutes (approx.) of actual newscast time ... at least 15 minutes were used to bash Bush ... welcome back Pete-aahhh!!!

42 posted on 09/03/2003 7:25:10 AM PDT by BluH2o
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To: Phantom Lord

43 posted on 09/03/2003 7:26:59 AM PDT by presidio9 (Run Al Run!!!)
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To: Skooz
Belize would be great as I am a SCUBA diver.
44 posted on 09/03/2003 7:27:20 AM PDT by Phantom Lord (Distributor of Pain, Your Loss Becomes My Gain)
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To: xzins
I saw the photos in Vanity Fair that are mentioned in this article. The comparison is repulsive beyond belief. To equate Richard Perle to Joseph Goebbals was enough to turn my stomach. Maybe I'm too sensitive, but I think it is deeply wrong to compare any Jew to a Nazi. By the way, anyone who has seen the original photograph of Goebbals (I saw it at an exhibition years ago) wouldn't dare to compare the two men. The evil that leaps off the paper in the original photo is palpable. For shame!
45 posted on 09/03/2003 7:27:27 AM PDT by miss marmelstein
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To: presidio9
Austraila is too far away. Don't want a 24 hour plane ride to come visit family or for them to visit us.
46 posted on 09/03/2003 7:27:51 AM PDT by Phantom Lord (Distributor of Pain, Your Loss Becomes My Gain)
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To: bedolido
It's all payback, I tell you. They are PO'd about what the "right wing conspiracy" did to their poster boy. They think they are getting even with conservatives and W is a perfect whipping boy for them--wealthy, not a good orator, proclaims religious beliefs and he's an oil man.

Central casting could not have provided a better Republican to serve their ends.

47 posted on 09/03/2003 7:27:57 AM PDT by GSWarrior
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To: bedolido
The term Nazi in this day & age has been reduced to nothing more than an illdefined ad hominem attack which tends to be uttered by opponents of the object of criticism.

A "Nazi" (as defined by the Left) appears to be anyone who refuses to conform to the prevailing dialectic of the fascistic far Left. Rather ironic.

More ironic when considering that Nazism ie: National Socialism- is derived from the far Left. Furthermore: any true student of anti-statism knows that regardless of who runs the State: the natural tendancy of the State is to vere towards totalitarianism. As has been illustrated by the growing centralization of past decades. Hence just about any Head of State or public official (notably those who advance big government agendas) can be called a "Nazi" concerning some matter.

48 posted on 09/03/2003 7:29:53 AM PDT by Republic_of_Secession.
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To: Phantom Lord
Some peoples system can not handle the shock.

Not even a small one?

49 posted on 09/03/2003 7:30:00 AM PDT by mhking (Helen's so ugly that dogs run at the sight of her...)
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To: presidio9
Looks like a giant grub.
50 posted on 09/03/2003 7:32:06 AM PDT by Skooz (Tagline removed by moderator)
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To: bedolido
All that might seem not worth taking seriously were it not for the fact that similar stuff was taken quite seriously during the Clinton years.

Nice article overall, but he left out one point - the Clinton haters were actually fueled by the nonstop scandals from the Clinton administration. I'm not talking about issues such as the infamous 16 words in the State of the Union address. I'm talking about filegate, travelgate, whitewatergate, tailgate, monicagate, chinagate, etc. I never hated Clinton, never met him. But I did hate having our White House at the center of scandal after scandal with the President offering the excuse, "Hey, I knew nothing about this until I read the papers this morning."

Shalom.

51 posted on 09/03/2003 7:33:12 AM PDT by ArGee (Hey, how did I get in this handcart? And why is it so hot?)
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To: Arrowhead1952
As lucianne once said "I believe every rumor ever written about Bill Clinton."

I miss those late night updates from Larry Nichols that we used to get on Ray Brim's show.

Blood trail, Mena, Dan Lassiter, etc,
52 posted on 09/03/2003 7:37:17 AM PDT by JohnnyP
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To: bedolido; Askel5
At Bushbodycount.com you’ll also learn about something known on the Internet as the BFEE, or Bush Family Evil Empire. The bottom line: These Bushes are very, very bad people.

My goodness - I've read stuff like this here. (And it sounds just as nuts here as it does there, imo.)

53 posted on 09/03/2003 7:37:18 AM PDT by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet (“I think your life expectancy was about 20 seconds." - Lloyd Keeland, USMC, veteran of Iwo Jima)
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To: finnman69
If anyone can find the text of speeches by Hitler and contrast them with speeches by current Democrat socialists, it would be very enlightening. My expectation is that you would not be able to tell who spoke which speech!
54 posted on 09/03/2003 7:40:08 AM PDT by Laserman
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To: Phantom Lord
I need to find a way to record his streaming audio on the net so I can listen to the show at my leisure in the afternoon

I haven't used this software yet, but it looks like it might be worth trying:

http://www.replay-radio.com/

55 posted on 09/03/2003 7:40:20 AM PDT by Born Conservative
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To: mhking
I recall a character named 'Doberman'? on the Sgt. Bilko Show.

Helen Thomas is a dead ringer for Doberman in drag!(it happened in one episode!)
56 posted on 09/03/2003 7:42:35 AM PDT by headsonpikes
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To: ArGee
I gave Billary every chance.

I remember when the election results came in in November 1992. We were driving home from Church, and my wife was on the verge of tears saying something like "How could they? They really voted for Clinton over Bush? What's wrong with this country?" She then went off on a tangent of how low the Clinton's are. I asked her to stop. I remembered the previous Twelve Years Hate the left had spewed toward Reagan/Bush and refused to live in the sewer with them. I said we would give him a chance. He was the President now and deserves our respect.

Well, you know the rest of the story. By the end of his first year, I was as rabid a "Clinton hater" as anyone. I despised the little twerp and the pathetic spawn of Satan who shared his bed (occasionally). But, I gave him a chance. I wanted to like him. I did not want to do to him what the loser left had done to Reagan/Bush. But his policies and his scandals so disgusted me that I could draw no other conclusion but that he was a disgrace to the nation and worthy of nothing but the lowest possible contempt.

57 posted on 09/03/2003 7:43:08 AM PDT by Skooz (Tagline removed by moderator)
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To: headsonpikes
Doberman in drag!(it happened in one episode!)

That's a scary thought...

58 posted on 09/03/2003 7:44:40 AM PDT by mhking (Helen's so ugly, when you buy an ugly stick, her face is on it to make others ugly!)
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To: Born Conservative; Phantom Lord
You can record streaming audio by using a great little program called Total Recorder. Find it at highcriteria.com.
59 posted on 09/03/2003 7:45:01 AM PDT by Skooz (Tagline removed by moderator)
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To: presidio9
I hate to ask - but WHAT IS THAT?
60 posted on 09/03/2003 7:48:36 AM PDT by fivecatsandadog
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