Its Time to Cast a Worried Eye Toward Yellowstone

YOWUSA ^ | 8/22/03 | Larry Park & Marshall Masters

[TBall]

"What do I think?? I'm thinking eastern Colorado may not be far enough away." You could always move east. How about DC?

[null and void]

Don't worry. Someone will explain why this is Clinton's fault.

Well DUH! There's a bulge under the lake...

[null and void]

P.S. Is yellowstone gonna blow?

Clinton is SOOOO there...

[dixie sass]

That was my first thought! Blooming cars...

[who knows what evil?]

Well, when you consider the sun and moon not giving their light, becoming 'as blood'; 100-pound hailstones and rocks falling upon us along with mountains and who only knows what else capped off with fire burning a good portion of the world to a crisp; not to mention the "mother" of all earthquakes...I'd say such an event releates pretty well. Considering the lack of repentance among the people of this country; I'd say such a cataclysm is a bit overdue. (This is, of course; a condensed version. For ALL the details, read the LAST Book of the Bible.)

[Interesting Times]

P.S. Is yellowstone gonna blow?

I'd say probably not. Our ability to measure bulges in lake bottoms and such is very recent. It may be that this sort of thing happens fairly often without a cataclysmic result.

[TBall]

It's going to blow, but I wonder if humans will still live on the planet when it happens.

[RayChuang88]

When the Toba caldera in what is now Indonesia erupted some 74,000 years ago, it supposedly spewed a coupld of hundred cubic miles of volcanic ash into the atmosphere. That eruption--sorry, no human pollution activity can equal that!!--caused such a major cooling of the Earth's atmosphere that the food chain was severely affected.

Scientists who have studied mitochondria transmission in human generations note that a vast majority of strains of mitochondria just vanished just before 70,000 years ago, indicating a massive die-off of humans (and very likely higher mammals) in a very short period of time. If the Yellowstone volcanic caldera were to erupt again it could cause an extremely severe effect on the Earth's climate, and that could cause food production to drop to a tiny fraction of what we can currently produce. A 70-75% reduction of the human population within two generations would not be out of the question, sad to say.

Hopefully, such an eruption won't come in the next 200 years, so we'll have time to eventually have humans colonize the Moon, on large space colonies between the Earth and the Moon (using materials mined from the Moon), and even on Mars. So in 2203, if the Yellowstone caldera does go ka-blooey then, a large fraction of the human race will still be around because they'll no longer be affected by what a couple a hundred cubic miles of ash will do to the Earth's atmosphere. =)

[Wacka]

Go to this site (Phil Plait's Bad Astronomy):

http://www.badastronomy.com/bad/misc/planets.html

It has a chart of the gravitational effect of the moon and the planets on the earth.

Moon = 1

Jupiter = .01

Venus = .006

Saturn = .0007

Mars = .0002

Three planets have more effect on the earth than Mars.

Mars pull is .02% (two one-hundreths of one percent) than that of the moon.

In other words, the moons pull is 5000 times stronger and the tide produced by Mars is one millionth that of the moon.

[Held_to_Ransom]

Gine that the eruptions come one every 600,000 years, a mere +1% margin of error means you will have to hold your breath for a mere 6,000 years more.

The odds are good you don't have to sell your home tomorrow.

[Travis McGee]

Fear Not.

"The Coming Superstorm" will put out any fires ignited by the volcano.

[null and void]

It would settle out the ash, too...

[Junior]

still think that a change in distance of 2.051 AU on Jan 1st of this year, down to a distance of .373 AU is not negligible, and that we may not yet understand nor appreciate the effect Mars has.

Considering a change of this magnitude occurs at least once each year you should have quite a large data set with which to work.

[Caipirabob]

Anybody got any thoughts on how an event like this could relate to bible prophecy and Revelations?

The fact that there's no clear reference to the United States but other countries can be identified in the text of the scripture?

EEEP!

[UCANSEE2]

Our ability to measure bulges in lake bottoms and such is very recent. It may be that this sort of thing happens fairly often without a cataclysmic result.

This is true. However, it is not just a bulge in the lake bottom. It is accompanied by extreme rise in temperature of the lake, increase in earthquake activity, changes in periodicity of the geysers, increase in sulphur gases, and a bunch of park rangers changing their underwear more often.

[UCANSEE2]

It's going to blow, but I wonder if humans will still live on the planet when it happens. Your assertion is the safest call. It will blow, but when is another story. One year from now or 100,000 years from now. Hard to argue with your point, at least as of today.

[UCANSEE2]

Thank you for the link to that site. I will find this very helpful.

I concede that the Gravitational pull of Mars is not what is causing the bottom of the lake to rise. At least not by itself. Also it may not be gravity that causes the increase of volcanic activity.

[UCANSEE2]

You are correct. There are other astronomical conjunctions that have not been in play for a long time either. Can the relative position of all the other planets have an additive effect to the relative closeness of Mars? Maybe it's the additive effect of the other planets and the Moon, and Mars has nothing to do with it. Maybe the Yellowstone Caldera blows every 70,000 years because that's it birthday.

[UCANSEE2]

Given that the rising dome in the lakebed at yellowstone can only rise so far before 'popping', and it's not just the lake, the entire region is lifting, It would be interesting to find out what time period is called for on that rise. Now, if the ground starts going back down, I would say everything will be OK.

[Do Be]

I've been following this discussion, expecially between you and "interesting times" and I'd like to ask a general question of all. Does anyone here think that the only influence of the planet Mars on this planet is a gravitational one?

It's true the solar system/universe obeys mechanical laws, but does this mean that it therefore follows that it is all just mechanical? Our bodies follow mechanical laws but I suggest that our existence is much more than just a mechanical/chemical/scientificly explained existence.

In fact I would go so far as to say that we don't know squat. Everything we claim to know is theory, and all our theories will be someday replaced by even better theories, by those who think they know.