Posted on 09/02/2003 8:36:03 PM PDT by Dixielander
Yesterday afternoon, a 4.4 magnitude earthquake occurred just 9 miles southeast of the south entrance to Yellowstone National Park. According to the USGS, “It is unlikely that there is a connection or triggering mechanism of the earthquake with the increased hydrothermal activity at Norris Geyser Basin, which is about 35 miles from the epicenter or with hydrothermal features in Yellowstone Lake that have received recent publicity.” However, given the shallow depth of this quake, the volcanism model developed by Larry Park has suddenly lurched us a huge step towards a worst-case eruption event.
Simply put, anyone living within 600 miles of Yellowstone could be sitting in a modern day Pompeii. In addition, for those living outside this area and West of the Mississippi river, there could be grievous consequences as well because systemic processes are now building beneath Yellowstone, that paint a very clear picture of a major eruption event in its early stages
In this article, Larry Park will present the science behind his warning. However, as the publisher of YOWUSA.COM, I wish to put some context to all this in layman’s terms as now as I personally feel the time has come for everyone living west of the Mississippi to become aware and to begin making a calm and deliberate assessment of the facts. This especially applies to those presently living within 600 miles of Yellowstone. However, what does the USGS say?
USGS, 07-February-2003
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Heh. I didn't realize the Roman Pantheon was still around.
NEXT is EARTH INFO
Next is the MOOOOOOONMoon info
and last is relevant information about the moon and tides and gravitational pull.The lull of the moon
Optimist. At least a century or two for the survivors.
But what you're really looking for is statistical info on how hard the Moon and Mars each pull on the Earth at their respective minimum distances.
Here's a hint -- try searching on this list of keywords: "gravitational pull" Mars Moon Earth maximum minimum
Those that tell me it can't since the gravity effect is nil, I ask to remember there is much we do not understand, about other planets, and Earth. First to tell me if the core of the Earth is Solid or Liquid, and be correct, wins.
That's called changing the subject to hide your own lack of understanding. Not a good way to learn.
For you or me? I assume you are learning as well. (unless you know it all, which is why I asked the question).
What makes you so sure that there is not a force we don't understand that Mars exerts that causes volcanic eruptions. What if Mars exerts a force that acts on magma?, or on the core of the Earth (whatever it may be)? Is the core of the Earth solid, or liquid. If solid, what is it composed of? What causes Magnetism? Not the magnestism found in lodestone, but the magnetic field surrounding the Earth? I am not trying to hide my lack of understanding whatsoever. I am not afraid to say, "I don't know", and I give you a vote of respect for having done the same. It is the mark of an intelligent man/woman.
You ask me to find tables with data showing how something can't be, and I ask you to do the opposite and consider that MAYBE THEY CAN. (Maybe it's not Mars)
Not all answers are in your books, Horatio. (I believe a close enough paraphrase of the original qoute).
Don't worry. Someone will explain why this is Clinton's fault.
Heck, he can't even close the borders, much less plug a fuming caldera.
Maybe it does.
But I see no reason to believe this is true, and many reasons to think it isn't. For starters, there's that little 10,000 year time difference...
You ask me to find tables with data showing how something can't be...
No, I'm asking you to inform yourself about the relative gravitational effects of Mars and the Moon on Earth, since it's clear from your posts that you don't understand this. If you aren't willing to make the effort, than you'll have to speculate on mysterious causes that move backwards in time without my help.
Yes to the first half of the sentence, absolutely not to the second half. I am not ignoring all evidence to the contrary, but asking for it. I think I see what you are getting at. That as some evidence of WHY NOT is produced, I come up with another excuse to pursue. That is only because I do not limit myself.
I believe everyone that has contributed to this part of the discussion probably agrees (as well as me) that the Mars/Yellowstone correlation is a far reach, at minimum and functionally unfounded.
OK. But keep your mind open. Something causes changes within the Earth, something that we do not yet understand.
Also understand that If I jump from one path to another, it is to bring in elements of the universe that are not yet explained, and work on an explanation.
SO many misunderstand the ozone layer, and the holes, that I don't even discuss it with someone unless I find they have an appreciable understanding of the principles of the solar system. I an not trying to be snobby, I just get tired of being told I am wrong when the 'accepted' answer is so obviously lacking.
I really appreciate you spending time to enrich my knowledge. What I would like to do myself is a longterm correlation of all solar system bodies to earthquakes and eruptions on Earth. I have a feeling this is already being done, and if there was some direct correlation, that it would already be a part of scientific knowledge. But, you never know......
Without disrespect, I suggest you first practice looking up basic facts when ideas occur to you, and trying to incorporate them into your thinking.
Otherwise, there is little point in taking on complex research projects.
I have a feeling this is already being done, and if there was some direct correlation, that it would already be a part of scientific knowledge.
How would you know if it was?
If you're interested in whether there's any known correllation between earthquakes and celestial mechanics, go forth, expend some effort, and find out. Right now you're just speculating on stuff you don't know anything about. That doesn't have any value.
Okay, I'm done.
What causes the flow of magma, and periodic flow near the surface, which we correlate to volcanic explosions, and whether these changes in the flow of magma/volcanic explosions have a correlation to other events in the solar system, specifically the nearness of other planetary bodies to the Earth, and whether the change in magma may be a force of gravity, or whether it may be some new unknown force.
You just described an eviro-nazi's walking wet dream. And the "world is overpopulated" crowd would be quite pleased as well.
Guess Ted Turner shouldn't have bought those thousands of acres up there in Montana, or was it Wyoming.
Don't worry - Be happy
Without disrespect, I suggest you first practice looking up basic facts when ideas occur to you, and trying to incorporate them into your thinking. Otherwise, there is little point in taking on complex research projects.
Some of most interesting and valuable discoveries in the field of science have occurred when the scientist threw all former facts and thinking out the door.
New ideas do not always come from following old facts.
Have you ever had the EUREKA principle hit you? Let me ask you, where does this come from?
As far as the rest of your reply, I am currently searching for correlations, although I do not expect any.
I know exactly what causes the magma to change flow, what causes these eruptions. I know and understand the force involved, and it is all part of the main force in our galaxy, the sun, our star bright. The ozone, the holes, the magnetic field, the tectonic plates and their movement, many, many things. All part of a central force's change in magnitude, all part of life on Earth.
Am I right? Who the heck knows.
Scientists say that all the galaxies are receding from us, based on observation, and that we can tell their distance based on the red-shift. I dispute the theory completely and say their distance calculations are mostly junk. Who is correct? Well, since I don't have a better answer, I should shut up.
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