Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

U.S. Muslims regret support for Bush, won’t repeat it in ’04
Wilmington Star ^ | 9-1-03 | Staff

Posted on 09/01/2003 12:14:25 PM PDT by veronica

Even before the Sept. 11 attacks and the crackdown that followed, American Muslim leaders generally had come to believe they had made a mistake.

In 2000, they made their first unified endorsement in a presidential race, backing George W. Bush. Many thought he would take a harder line against Israel, and, based on statements he made while campaigning, would protect the rights of immigrants facing deportation.

Muslims say they were disappointed on both counts. Now, feeling the additional sting of being scrutinized in the domestic hunt for terrorists, they are mobilizing to express their anger at the polls in 2004.

At their largest convention of the year, which ends today, national Muslim leaders announced plans to register 1 million Muslim voters and make civil rights a top issue in any endorsement of a presidential candidate.

"A defining moment of Islam in America is approaching," said Nihad Awad, executive director of the Council on American-Islamic Relations, a civil rights group based in Washington. "We cannot surrender our future and our destiny to hate in this country."

Agha Saeed, head of the Muslim American Congress, led the crowd in a chant. "I am an American, I am a Muslim and I vote," he said, joined by thousands gathered for the Islamic Society of North America meeting.

After the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks, Mr. Bush won points with American Muslims by visiting a mosque and declaring Islam a peaceful religion.

But since then, the federal government has detained hundreds of immigrants, shut down U.S. Muslim charities suspected of terrorist ties and gained broad new powers to monitor citizens under the USA Patriot Act.

The Bush administration said these moves have been crucial for U.S. security. American Muslims say they are being scapegoated.

A White House spokesman referred questions about the presidential race to the Bush campaign, whose spokeswoman did not immediately reply to a request for comment Sunday.

It is unclear what effect Muslims can have in the 2004 elections.

Estimates of the number of U.S. Muslims vary dramatically from 2 million to 6 million. But immigrant Muslims generally are highly educated professionals with the means to make significant campaign donations.

Also, their community has matured dramatically in the past four years.

The assault on Islam that followed the suicide hijackings that killed thousands in New York and Washington compelled Muslims around the country to defend their faith.

National Muslim organizations, including Mr. Awad’s, reported a dramatic increase in donations and membership.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2004election; 501c3nonprofits; 501c3violations; allegianceselsewhere; antiamerican; antibush; antisemites; antisemitism; bombvest; bushbashing; cair; chruchandstate; election2004; electionlaw; fifthcolumn; fifthcolumnists; gwb2004; irs; irsaudit; islammeanspeace; israel; jewishvote; killers; loyaltieselsewhere; mediabias; murderers; muslimamericans; muslimvote; nuts; propalestinianwar; religionofpeace; religionofpieces; religionopeacetm; taxlaw; theterroritstvote; troglodytes; unamerican; voterdrives
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-20 ... 141-160161-180181-200 ... 221-229 next last
To: wimpycat
In what counties? Or is it a question of altitude? Seriously, that should make Tarheelia a magnet community for certain immigrants.

It also should make a certain cousin of mine in Mebane very, very nervous.

161 posted on 09/01/2003 7:39:24 PM PDT by Kenny Bunk
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 138 | View Replies]

To: DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet
and I came home to this thread, full of comments that seem to be urging me to have a more bigoted, distrustful, fearful view of a Muslim family (a handsome young man who works at Microsoft, his beautiful wife, and their adorable little girl) that lives in my neighborhood

Wow, they're all attractive? No one who is attractive can be bad right?

I was hoping you would have a more REALISTIC view of the world.

By the way there are at least two muslim groups at microsoft and they both contain terrorists and terrorist supporters.

Try this to open your eyes: drive south on 405, West on 90, take the Rainier Avenue exit, drive South on Rainier till you pass the large Safeway. Go a few more blocks and look for Crescent Cuts on the East side of the street.

Stop in, you'll know the place because they are all young muslim males (no women allowed) in full battle dress.

Ask them their views on Jews, Christians, and America. Ask them if Microsoft muslims are their brothers and if they are valued more than kafir infidel Americans.

What has your neighbor done to fight terrorism? To denounce it?

What will your attitude be if SEA suffers a muslim bio attack and your family dies horribly?

162 posted on 09/01/2003 7:44:21 PM PDT by tubavil
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 124 | View Replies]

To: tubavil
Wow, they're all attractive? No one who is attractive can be bad right?

Is that introduction supposed to warm me to your views?

Why would I blame my neighbor if Seattle suffers a biological attack, unless his name is in the news afterwards?

I'm not a bigot. Stop trying to turn me into one.

163 posted on 09/01/2003 7:48:36 PM PDT by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet ("I'm just a caveman. Your modern world frightens and confuses me...")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 162 | View Replies]

To: DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet
By the way, that neighborhood is the same area where Ethiopian muslims cheered in the street while people were jumping from the twin towers.
164 posted on 09/01/2003 7:48:56 PM PDT by tubavil
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 162 | View Replies]

To: tubavil
Those people may very well be bad. They probably ARE bad (at the very least, they are horribly deceived). But that doesn't make my neighbor bad. Why is that so difficult to grasp?
165 posted on 09/01/2003 7:50:38 PM PDT by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet ("I'm just a caveman. Your modern world frightens and confuses me...")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 164 | View Replies]

To: DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet
Is that introduction supposed to warm me to your views?

Those aren't my "views", they are facts. I've been following them long before 9-11.

166 posted on 09/01/2003 7:51:10 PM PDT by tubavil
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 163 | View Replies]

To: stylin19a
In 1979 the U.S. Embassy in Iran was taken over by:
(a) Lost Norwegians
(b) Elvis
(c) A tour bus full of 80 year old women
(d) Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

The boys over at St. Olaf's Hall very much resent the fact that you dragged up that old file. Look, it was just supposed to be a joke. It's pretty durn tough to find a drink in old Teheran, and they thought the Embassy bar .... well now you know the rest of the story.

During the 1980's, a number of Americans were kidnapped in Lebanon by:
(a) John Dillinger
(b) The King of Sweden
(c) The Boy Scouts
(d) Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

But I commend you for your fairness, because you didn't let the Swedes off the hook for that Lebanon caper, either. Boy, I'll tell you, when them Swedes get to drinking, no Norwegian-American is safe anywhere.

167 posted on 09/01/2003 7:51:43 PM PDT by Kenny Bunk
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 111 | View Replies]

To: tubavil
Oh, I see. Your views are facts. When you get some facts about my neighbor, ping me, okay?
168 posted on 09/01/2003 7:54:29 PM PDT by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet ("I'm just a caveman. Your modern world frightens and confuses me...")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 166 | View Replies]

To: trebb
"if the Muslims hate him, that's good enough reason for me to vote for him"

So that he can build up the Saudi Navy at taxpayer expense and insist on giving more of Israel to Arrafat's boys, I guess.
169 posted on 09/01/2003 7:59:54 PM PDT by Spirited
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet
But that doesn't make my neighbor bad. Why is that so difficult to grasp?

Your neighbor self-identifies as a muslim. The muslim religion, islam, has as its core beliefs that are literally death for all non-muslims, namely convert or be killed. This is an indisputable fact, and a huge problem.

The 9-11 hijackers were all nice peaceable muslims too, until they killed 3000 Americans and changed all our lives and our country forever.

170 posted on 09/01/2003 8:03:45 PM PDT by tubavil
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 165 | View Replies]

To: tubavil
Look. We're never going to agree on this. I think you're a reactionary bigot, because you insist on convicting people you do not know based on the actions of nineteen freaks. You think I'm naive and foolish because I don't share your world view.

We're at an impasse.

I'm perfectly comfortable living next door to a thirty-something Muslim. If he blows me up, you can say "I told you so" - but I wouldn't hold my breath if I were you.


171 posted on 09/01/2003 8:15:00 PM PDT by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet ("I'm just a caveman. Your modern world frightens and confuses me...")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 170 | View Replies]

To: DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet
because you insist on convicting people you do not know based on the actions of nineteen freaks.

If there were only nineteen freaks, we (USA) wouldn't be in the world of hurt we are in - and will be for years and possibly the rest of our lives.

As I mentioned before, I have a history of following "The Religion of Peace" with a PNW emphasis.

We are in deep, deep sh*t. Even the government with their horrible record of fighting terrorism, admits that at any time it is likely we will experience a horrific attack - worse than 9/11 - and there's nothing they can do about it.

We are not at severe risk from Christians or Jews, we are at severe risk from MUSLIMS!

They openly state what their goals are and that they are waging Jihad (muslim/islamic holy war).

You (and all of us) would do well to damn well believe them.

172 posted on 09/01/2003 8:28:50 PM PDT by tubavil
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 171 | View Replies]

To: Scenic Sounds
Yeah, I've been a member of a profession that hasn't yet won universal adoration. ;-)

LOL...don't you hold your breath, either. : )

173 posted on 09/01/2003 8:33:36 PM PDT by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet ("I'm just a caveman. Your modern world frightens and confuses me...")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 147 | View Replies]

To: tubavil
I do believe them...but I won't paint every Muslim I encounter with the broad brush you're trying to hand me.
174 posted on 09/01/2003 8:35:59 PM PDT by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet ("I'm just a caveman. Your modern world frightens and confuses me...")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 172 | View Replies]

To: DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet

175 posted on 09/01/2003 8:38:57 PM PDT by Scenic Sounds
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 173 | View Replies]

To: oceanview
sad to say but true: the Dems will receive 85% of both the jewish and muslim vote in 2004

Bingo! Exactly. The Jewish vote will stay overwhelmingly liberal no matter what.

176 posted on 09/01/2003 8:41:13 PM PDT by NYC Republican
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: veronica; All
Agha Saeed, head of the Muslim American Congress, led the crowd in a chant. "I am an American, I am a Muslim and I vote"...

A-HA! Does everyone recall that 'Ad Council' media blitz of PA spots just after 9/11? Who can forget the slogan utter by various people -- many coincidently appearing Middle Eastern: "I am an American"...

Nice to see Agha embellishing in this case.

177 posted on 09/01/2003 8:43:29 PM PDT by F16Fighter
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet
Know that muslims worship muhammad, an illiterate paedophile who had sex with his 'wife' Aisha (one of many) in his fifties - she was nine. He married her when she was six. Again, this is fact no muslim scholar will deny.

Since you live in the SEA area, listen for jafar (jeff) siddiqui. He's the local media darling who represents "moderate islam" (he's also a vocal muslim terrorist supporter). He, on KIRO radio, defended this act by saying that muhammad was doing her a favor, because otherwise, what would become of her?

I have to call it a night.

178 posted on 09/01/2003 8:48:30 PM PDT by tubavil
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 174 | View Replies]

To: tubavil; null and void
>>"The 9-11 hijackers were all nice peaceable muslims too, until they killed 3000 Americans and changed all our lives and our country forever."<<


Never forget.
179 posted on 09/01/2003 8:49:24 PM PDT by viaveritasvita
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 170 | View Replies]

To: Scenic Sounds
You are a wise man. : )
180 posted on 09/01/2003 8:50:30 PM PDT by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet ("I'm just a caveman. Your modern world frightens and confuses me...")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 175 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-20 ... 141-160161-180181-200 ... 221-229 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson