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What is Wal-Mart Trying To Hide?
Kansas Workbeat ^

Posted on 09/01/2003 6:10:56 AM PDT by StatesEnemy

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To: StatesEnemy
Moving Wal-Mart to do the Right Thing
This campaign is about transparency in the global economy, about throwing open the locked factory gates, tearing down the barbed wire and removing the armed guards. It is about letting in the light of day, so it is harder to abuse children and operate sweatshops.

Why Wal-Mart?
Wal-Mart is the largest retailer in the world; if we move Wal-Mart to do the right thing, we can change how the entire industry operates.

Wal-Mart will not willingly put themselves at a competitive disadvantage to their competitors. This campaign should work to establish "transparency in the global economy" with all companies, not just Wal-Mart.

I'm all for open information about the products we buy, but the focus cannot be on one company to the exclusion of others.


gitmo
21 posted on 09/01/2003 6:39:43 AM PDT by gitmo (Americans are learning world geography ... one war at a time.)
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To: Walkin Man
As soon as Americans are willing to work for 9 cents an hour under slave labor conditions, where will be plenty of new jobs created here in the USA!

It doesn't have to be that extreme. But when unions demand over $20 per hour for menial labor, how can American manufacturers compete with the "slave labor" countries? Where is Wal-Mart supposed to find $20 shoes for its customers (which may be all that customer can afford), if it's impossible to find such a product made in the USA? Keep in mind, a lot of people shop at Wal-Mart because they can't afford Niemann Marcus. Where would you have working class people go for their housewares, socks and the like? Or should they just do without, in an expression of solidarity forever?

22 posted on 09/01/2003 6:39:45 AM PDT by mountaineer
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To: TomGuy
(Those doing the loudest complaining, of course, make far more than $5.35 per hour, but they whine that their bag of fries might increase 10 cents.)

But if as you concede, raising the minimum wage will raise consumer prices, then why raise the minimum wage at all? A minimum wage worker making $5.35 an hour will hardly be better off making more if consumer prices rise along with the minimum wage!

23 posted on 09/01/2003 6:40:19 AM PDT by SamAdams76 (Back in boot camp! 224.8 (-75.2))
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To: StatesEnemy
Stop buying their goods. We need to organize and galvanize citizens to drive these companies to a choice, go out of business or tow the line.
24 posted on 09/01/2003 6:40:28 AM PDT by MissAmericanPie
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To: StatesEnemy
The organized labor gang has been after WalMart attempting unsuccessfully to organize their labor force.

This labor day presentation should have been headed by the real author:

Wichita-Hutchinson Labor Federation of Central Kansas, AFL-CIO

25 posted on 09/01/2003 6:41:29 AM PDT by hgro
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To: mountaineer
People who write articles like these are looking for the union label...not necessarily the Made in the USA label.
26 posted on 09/01/2003 6:41:36 AM PDT by Conservababe
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To: StatesEnemy
"the multinationals are not accountable to the American people"

Neither are our elected representatives! And largely responsible for this situation is the fact that our money is not gold and silver. Jefferson warned bad things would happen when the politicians could pay themselves with paper money that they get the banks to create for them. It frees them from having to serve the people. He wanted the politicians to be paid with real money to ensure that the only wealth the politicians got was wealth that came from the labors of the people. But most feepers look down on gold advocates as "bugs" even though the founders were advocates of real money and encoded into the statutes and the Constitution (that have since become relics and antiques of law) that gold and silver would be the only money. Those of you who laugh at gold advocates but hate the idea of multinationals utilizing slave labor as mentioned in this article are laughing at the one thing that would bring the situation back under your control. Without an honest monetary system you can expect the slavery to continue---because of the mischeif and unaccountability that dishonest money makes possible.
27 posted on 09/01/2003 6:42:26 AM PDT by Jason_b
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To: TomGuy
You dolts are amusing - jack up the minimum wage, and the people paying the biggest price for it are the workers who had been a buck or two above the minimum wage. I might be able to afford the extra dime for the bag of fries, but the guy who was making a buck more than minimum sure can't.
28 posted on 09/01/2003 6:46:35 AM PDT by Chancellor Palpatine (if you can read this tagline, you're folllowing too close)
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To: mountaineer
But when unions demand over $20 per hour for menial labor...

Yes and college educated non-union white collar workers in America demand 50 to 80,000 a year while in India, poeple with the same education are willing to work 12 hours a day for 6,000 a year! And lots and lots and lots of those jobs are now going overseas as well.

I remember an America where a person only capable of "menial labor" could still live a decent life and raise a family. Now the same person is doomed to try and compete with slave labor in communist China! The USA is going to pay a heavy social price for cheap shoes sold at the Great Wall-Mart.

29 posted on 09/01/2003 6:51:02 AM PDT by Walkin Man
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To: netmilsmom
I agree that the practice is horrible, but this article sounds more like sour grapes for WalMart than against Slave Labor.

Agreed.

30 posted on 09/01/2003 6:51:19 AM PDT by Texas Mom
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To: StatesEnemy
The real problem as others have pointed out are the unions, the government regulations, and the government agencies here in the United States of America.

Making 9 cents per hour is better than making 0 cents an hour, especially if you're starving.
31 posted on 09/01/2003 6:52:14 AM PDT by Promark
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To: hgro
Wichita-Hutchinson Labor Federation of Central Kansas, AFL-CIO

Thanks for finding the source of this garbage! The nonsense they propagate comes from the same hole that Marx came from.

32 posted on 09/01/2003 6:53:11 AM PDT by eleni121
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To: Walkin Man; Texas_Dawg; Poohbah
I remember an America where a person only capable of "menial labor" could still live a decent life and raise a family.

So what? "Little man" populism is over, and good riddance. I can't say as I really care whether some disaffected class warrior can afford that tricked up pickup truck, a couple of trips to the Winston Cup series or some new gear for his bass boat annually.

33 posted on 09/01/2003 6:59:14 AM PDT by Chancellor Palpatine (if you can read this tagline, you're folllowing too close)
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To: StatesEnemy
Great Wal-mart ping...
34 posted on 09/01/2003 7:00:34 AM PDT by null and void
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To: StatesEnemy
"The Great Wall" Mart
35 posted on 09/01/2003 7:02:49 AM PDT by cp124 (The Great Wall Mart)
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To: Chancellor Palpatine
You dolts are amusing - jack up the minimum wage, and the people paying the biggest price for it are the workers who had been a buck or two above the minimum wage. I might be able to afford the extra dime for the bag of fries, but the guy who was making a buck more than minimum sure can't.

Yeh, that dang Lincoln! He started it all! Now, EVERYBODY expects a living wage!


I'm just curious--how long has it been since you had to LIVE on minimum wage? How long since you even had to live on $5.35 an hour? I would bet the difference that you are making much more than $5.35 an hour.
36 posted on 09/01/2003 7:04:27 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: StatesEnemy
Perhaps they can define "slave-wage" for those of us that aren't privy to such information. Along with "felonious profit margins" and such. They really ought to ask several Chinese people what the prefer - the Nike factory or the rice paddy. I suspect that making shoes is both better paying and more pleasant.

I shop at Wal-mart for the same reason millions of others do - to get stuff cheaper. I don't buy everything there, but I have found enough savings there to justify the extra 2 mile drive beyond the regular grocery store, particularly when I can save $10-20 every 2 weeks on regular name-brand grocery staples.

37 posted on 09/01/2003 7:05:54 AM PDT by meyer
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To: StatesEnemy
How does putting foreign workers out of a job improve their lives?
38 posted on 09/01/2003 7:08:10 AM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: StatesEnemy
"There is no way the American worker can compete with the utter desperation of slave labor. "

And, yet, somehow, we are supposed to feel good about getting cheap products. Well, that's what Wall Street has been saying, so has Rush. We are told that this is the "new global economy" and is good for us and everyone else. Somehow, I don't think so.
39 posted on 09/01/2003 7:08:57 AM PDT by PatrioticAmerican (Helping Mexicans invade America is TREASON!)
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To: Walkin Man
I suppose you think the poor and middle class in America would be better off paying $150+ for shirts and $200+ for shoes, if all we could buy were (union) made in USA stuff?

The standard of living would plummet to a 1930s level without imported goods.
40 posted on 09/01/2003 7:10:09 AM PDT by AnalogReigns
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